Shisui vs taka sasuke

[King Of Pop]

Sasuke simply becos he has much more feats than someone who has bareely featuted in the manga. Am surprised people said shisui. And those talkin abt genjutsu and sure ur not being serious because a genjutsu is not defeatin a skilled ms user, that's complete bollocks. The only way shisui wins is thru ka and there are many factors to take when debating abt it

 

[Chie]

Shisui. Shisui was roughly on the same level as Itachi before he died and Taka Sasuke is no where near Itachi's level

Shisui was 18-24 when he died while Itachi was 13. Then Shisui was shown to be the type of ninja that completely lets down his guard when he thinks he's one. He also has one OP genjutsu that he can only use once a decade but sets his MS on cooldown for ten years. He's not anywhere near Itachi's level.

Conjecture and total assumption.

Shisui has the Mangekyo. He had a stronger eye than Sasuke.

Shisui was renown for his speed, much like the Yellow Flash, Sasuke's might've been fast compared to Yamato, but Itachi and Shisui are in another level.

Shisui was also the greatest Genjutsu user of the Uchiha. Above Itachi and Madara.

And it's not out of the question say Shisui had Susano'o.

Sasuke doesn't stand a chance.

No, he wasn't. He just had on OP genjutsu that would set his MS on cooldown for ten years right after using it once. He had the most powerful genjutsu, but he wasn't the best user. By feats and what we've seen so far, that would have to be Itachi considering that he can do what Shisui can do, but better minus having the KA oneshot.

Shisui awakened one OP technique, which was the same case with Obito. Not all the Uchiha are the same and it's been stated that awakening susanno is rare, even for MS users, which is why Itachi was surprised when Sasuke awakened it. Also, you have to awaken the other two powers in order to awaken the third, susanno. However, Shisui only had KA, meaning he did not attain susanno.

ot: Shisui just blitzes taka Sasuke and wins. Sasuke was fooled by one of Itachi's genjutsu crows for a good minute during their fight and Shisui was a pretty adept genutsu user. All he'd have to do is distract Sasuke for a few seconds and then blitz him.

 

[Chie]

Why would he call them if he was able to take Shisui on his own, explain me. It all was a miscalculation of Shisui, he didn't know Danzo was stable to genjutsu(while Danzo had all intel on him) and not to mention that this Danzo was ten years ago and probably another Danzo than the one Sasuke fought. (though he fought 3v1, if it wasn't Tobi and Karin he would be dead by now)

Let's say Shisui is equal to Itachi, (which is stated in the manga), Itachi has the upperhand fighting Sasuke in everything except stamina, this probably wouldn't be the same if Itachi was healthy.

We can't discuss it if we haven't seen any fights of Shisui, but the most accurate we can say now is that he > Taka Sasuke.

Yes, but that was back when Itachi was a 13 year old kid and Shisui was 18-24. Then Itachi left the village and continued to develop his abilities. Itachi surpassed Shisui long ago and was on par with him as a child.

But regardless, Shisui still blitzes Taka Sasuke. U_U

 

[TrollKing]

Shisui was 18-24 when he died while Itachi was 13. Then Shisui was shown to be the type of ninja that completely lets down his guard when he thinks he's one. He also has one OP genjutsu that he can only use once a decade but sets his MS on cooldown for ten years. He's not anywhere near Itachi's level.



No, he wasn't. He just had on OP genjutsu that would set his MS on cooldown for ten years right after using it once. He had the most powerful genjutsu, but he wasn't the best user. By feats and what we've seen so far, that would have to be Itachi considering that he can do what Shisui can do, but better minus having the KA oneshot.

Shisui awakened one OP technique, which was the same case with Obito. Not all the Uchiha are the same and it's been stated that awakening susanno is rare, even for MS users, which is why Itachi was surprised when Sasuke awakened it. Also, you have to awaken the other two powers in order to awaken the third, susanno. However, Shisui only had KA, meaning he did not attain susanno.

ot: Shisui just blitzes taka Sasuke and wins. Sasuke was fooled by one of Itachi's genjutsu crows for a good minute during their fight and Shisui was a pretty adept genutsu user. All he'd have to do is distract Sasuke for a few seconds and then blitz him.

They were about the same age. Really don't know where you get 10 years difference from. Maybe from the height? Or skill???

Sushi solo without use of ka. He doesn't need op ka
Itachi only developed ms jutsu but never spam train. still not far above Kakashi

 

[Chie]

The only realistic option is Sasuke. Since we never saw real power from Shisui. Don't forget that fillers aren't legit. In the manga Kishimoto never showed us Shisui's real strength. He was described as the strongest....But so was Hiruzen,you get the point.

Well, he was described to be the user of the strongest genjutsu. Not the strongest Uchiha.

 

[Chie]

They were about the same age. Really don't know where you get 10 years difference from. Maybe from the height? Or skill???

Sushi solo without use of ka. He doesn't need op ka

-Itachi himself stated that Shisui was older than him and he looked up to him like an older brother because they shared the same ideals in the manga.

-Shisui was a young jounin with his own team

-Kagami is Shisui's father. Kagami was the same age as Hiruzen, but somehow died a time before the Kyuubi attack. Someone as old as Hiruzen isn't having a son who is a teenager.

Shisui was at the very least 5 years older than Itachi.

 

[TrollKing]

-Itachi himself stated that Shisui was older than him and he looked up to him like an older brother because they shared the same ideals in the manga.

-Shisui was a young jounin with his own team

-Kagami is Shisui's father. Kagami was the same age as Hiruzen, but somehow died a time before the Kyuubi attack. Someone as old as Hiruzen isn't having a son who is a teenager.

Shisui was at the very least 5 years older than Itachi.

Base on all that, it only imply sushi>>>>itachi without ever mentioning itachi ever surpass sushi

 

[Chie]

Base on all that, it only imply sushi>>>>itachi without ever mentioning itachi ever surpass sushi

Don't really know who Sushi is, but whatever floats your boat. Sure. Itachi's weakness is sushi. XD

 

[assface3]

1. KA solos Taka Sasuke, neg-diff.
2. When Shisui and Itachi were alive, they were roughly equal, with Shisui most likely being a bit stronger.
3. Shisui was older than Itachi by quite a bit (5 years, at least).
4. Though Itachi surpassed Shisui overall, Shisui could still beat him if he hits him with KA, obviously.
5. Shisui didn't have that "ten year cooldown" crap to KA; that was only for non-Uchihas, which Danzo diminished greatly with the use of Hashirama's cells; Shisui most likely could use KA like Itachi used Tsukuyomi.

 

[TrollKing]

1. KA solos Taka Sasuke, neg-diff.
2. When Shisui and Itachi were alive, they were roughly equal, with Shisui most likely being a bit stronger.
3. Shisui was older than Itachi by quite a bit (5 years, at least).
4. Though Itachi surpassed Shisui overall, Shisui could still beat him if he hits him with KA, obviously.
5. Shisui didn't have that "ten year cooldown" crap to KA; that was only for non-Uchihas, which Danzo diminished greatly with the use of Hashirama's cells; Shisui most likely could use KA like Itachi used Tsukuyomi.

Like tsukuyomu, ka been defeated. And ka has backslash(most likely stronger backslash)

 

[Rhythm]

I Think he can beat this version of Sasuke.