Hiruzen is stronger than Hashirama.

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Everyone just be mad than Prime Hiruzen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Their fav zero diff
 

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i know this is probably just a troll thread, but nothing hiruzen could ever do would even put him remotely close to hashirama. tobirama would have probably smashed him and minato would have done him in. prime hiruzen is just one of those thing that has no feats so therefore does not technically exist. he's just like a unicorn.
 

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Hiruzen himself disagrees.

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Hashirama: I'll say it frankly, this man is stronger than me.
Hiruzen: It is rude to say it but it's true.

Quite clearly Hiruzen thinks otherwise or else he wouldn't think it is rude to say Juubito is stronger if Hiruzen himself was stronger than Hashirama.

Hiruzen was speaking for Hashirama, not himself. Don't see the relevance.
 

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Hiruzen was speaking for Hashirama, not himself. Don't see the relevance.
Hiruzen felt it was rude for someone to be above Hashirama. If Hiruzen was real, he'd look at your thread and find it rude to compare him to Hashirama.
 

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Hiruzen felt it was rude for someone to be above Hashirama. If Hiruzen was real, he'd look at your thread and find it rude to compare him to Hashirama.

No. He thought it was rude to say Hashirama was weak. If Hiruzen was real, chances are he would lmao at you life and your false pretences.
 

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also it's false that he learned every justsu in konoha, as there are jutsu he is incapable of doing. that means nothing that has anything to do with a kkg. plus he probably knows a bunch of fodder jutsu. at most he is the 3rd strongest hokage, behind hashi, minato and tobirama.
 

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No. He thought it was rude to say Hashirama was weak. If Hiruzen was real, chances are he would lmao at you life and your false pretences.
No one said Hashirama was weak, but simply being weaker than anyone, even the Juubi jinchuriki was rude. So I'm sure Hiruzen would find it rude for himself to be stronger than Hashirama if he felt it was rude for Hashirama to be weaker than even the Juubi jinchuriki.
 

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no armed Minato is still more deadly than old hiruzen


dont tell me that age made him suck, SO6P created moon on his death bed
 

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also it's false that he learned every justsu in konoha, as there are jutsu he is incapable of doing. that means nothing that has anything to do with a kkg. plus he probably knows a bunch of fodder jutsu. at most he is the 3rd strongest hokage, behind hashi, minato and tobirama.

Hiruzen>Gai
 

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No. He thought it was rude to say Hashirama was weak. If Hiruzen was real, chances are he would lmao at you life and your false pretences.

Indeed. He admires his sensei. Its rude for him say someone is stronger.


People think he sucks because we haven't seen prime hiruzen feats.. but we have seen old Hiruzen feats.

Im pretty sure prime>old
 

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no armed Minato is still more deadly than old hiruzen


dont tell me that age made him suck, SO6P created moon on his death bed


No. Even with his arms, Minato has no chance against Hiruzen.
 

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No. Even with his arms, Minato has no chance against Hiruzen.


If anyone has a chance against him I say its Minato.

He could have easily killed Ay and Bee
 

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No one said Hashirama was weak, but simply being weaker than anyone, even the Juubi jinchuriki was rude. So I'm sure Hiruzen would find it rude for himself to be stronger than Hashirama if he felt it was rude for Hashirama to be weaker than even the Juubi jinchuriki.

Weak in this scenario. Weaker than his opponent - which is what Hiruzen said.

Kishi has made his thoughts in the matter clear.
 

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Weak in this scenario. Weaker than his opponent - which is what Hiruzen said.

Kishi has made his thoughts in the matter clear.
Indeed, if Hashirama was Hiruzen's opponent Hiruzen would be weaker and he himself would know it.
 

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I can see this situation happening; Hiruzen was way faster than Lee.

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Notice how Madara loses his shit when he realises Hiruzen's coming over for a sleepover.

Indeed, if Hashirama was Hiruzen's opponent Hiruzen would be weaker and he himself would know it.

It is common knowledge that Hiruzen was stronger than Hasirama, even Hashirama knows it.
 

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Indeed, if Hashirama was Hiruzen's opponent Hiruzen would be weaker and he himself would know it.

Hiruzen clearly just admires his Sensei which is why he said it's "rude". Hiruzen already knows he can take on Hashirama.
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