Minato (base), EMS Sasuke & Itachi vs BSM Naruto & Nagato

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Sure dude, whatever keeps your ego intact.

Not that I would take insult from someone that most people don't even pay any mind.​

Says the bastard who thinks BM Naruto > Edo Madara Lol

alright Guys I'm changing It to only BM Naruto

No Need U_U Most people fail to realize that Minato can kill Naruto in an instant by breaking the Hakke Fuuin, Minato is Naruto's worst possible match-up U_U
 

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We are talking about Healthy Itachi, Healthy Itachi at the level of Edo Itachi,

Healthy usually only dictates that he won't die from sickness and have slight boost in Speed, Strength, and Stamina.

Though since its an Itachi that never existed, there's no way to gauge how much any of them would get boosted. At best, you could scale him to MS Sasuke. Though the biggest question will be stamina & Susano'O.

His battle with Danzou lasted 10 minutes. Most of which was fought whilst using the Ribcage and Skeleton versions of Susano'O. Meaning the time he can hold a Susano'O overall is shorter than 10 minutes as he fought in base at a point, and the time he can hold his is much shorter as he was fighting in base and lower forms of Susano'O throughout the fight.​

And even if you scale him to MS Sasuke, he can't hold Susano'O for very long. The time he could hold Complete Susano'O would be even shorter.​



or maybe even stronger (by Madara it was already proved that Alive > Edo) and on top of that he have Minato with him. Obviously Minato and Itachi > EMS Sasuke without PS.

The reason that Edo Itachi can go against Sauske is because it negates the one thing that Sasuke can exploit, Stamina.​

Says the bastard who thinks BM Naruto > Edo Madara Lol

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Oh rly?​

Loooooooool what is this fail? Base Minato soloes this shit out of EMS/PS Sasuke. Canonically speakiing Tobirama was said to be on EMS/PSS Madara's level who by feats shits on Sasuke Low diff. and Minato was said to be better than Tobirama in almost all accounts.

Also by feats and techniques Minato shits on Perfect Susanoo without much effort.
No Need U_U Most people fail to realize that Minato can kill Naruto in an instant by breaking the Hakke Fuuin, Minato is Naruto's worst possible match-up U_U



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No Need U_U Most people fail to realize that Minato can kill Naruto in an instant by breaking the Hakke Fuuin, Minato is Naruto's worst possible match-up U_U

Shit
I should've restricted that hax one shot
 

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Healthy Itachi is already more powerful than MS Sasuke, i would rank EMS Sasuke (without PS) just slightly above Itachi and Itachi have Minato with him. They stomps that Sasuke.

We are talking about Healthy Itachi, Healthy Itachi at the level of Edo Itachi, or maybe even stronger (by Madara it was already proved that Alive > Edo) and on top of that he have Minato with him. Obviously Minato and Itachi > EMS Sasuke without PS.

not even close healthy or not ms cannot spamm the things he did in his edo form also itachi has nothing to by pass susanoo sasuke v2 standing susanoo obviously has much more fire power it would break itachi's susanoo down minato is a non factor especially if he's alive enton rapes any imcoming close ftg tags kunai are burnt down plus sasuke standing susanoo can jump high and rapid fire susanoo arrow he has more stamina then both of them sasuke would destroy them low-mid diff
 

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Let's be real. Team1 gets steamrolled here. Maybe you should give BM to Minato to make it more fair
 

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Let's be real. Team1 gets steamrolled here. Maybe you should give BM to Minato to make it more fair

Then there would be a teleporting PS kurama
That would be a bit unfair as well
 

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You haven't restricted Perfect Susanoo for Sasuke, meaning team 1 wins.
 

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Healthy usually only dictates that he won't die from sickness and have slight boost in Speed, Strength, and Stamina.

Though since its an Itachi that never existed, there's no way to gauge how much any of them would get boosted. At best, you could scale him to MS Sasuke. Though the biggest question will be stamina & Susano'O.

And even if you scale him to MS Sasuke, he can't hold Susano'O for very long. The time he could hold Complete Susano'O would be even shorter.​

The reason that Edo Itachi can go against Sauske is because it negates the one thing that Sasuke can exploit, Stamina.​

Why slight boost? Being sick and being healthy is like heaven and earth. His stamina even when he was sick was pretty good consider that he was able to push Hebi Sasuke to limits. There is no need for long hold Susano'o if he used it effectively, and he have Minato with him to back him up.
 

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not even close healthy or not ms cannot spamm the things he did in his edo form also itachi has nothing to by pass susanoo sasuke v2 standing susanoo obviously has much more fire power it would break itachi's susanoo down minato is a non factor especially if he's alive enton rapes any imcoming close ftg tags kunai are burnt down plus sasuke standing susanoo can jump high and rapid fire susanoo arrow he has more stamina then both of them sasuke would destroy them low-mid diff

Every technique has a weakness and Sasuke has two smartess character going against him.
 
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Team Minato is tagged initially.

EMS Sasuke stalemates with and fully occupies BSM Naruto; given the properties of his Eternal Mangekyo. There is nothing BSM Naruto wields that Sasuke cannot either defend against, intercept or negate entirely. This issue is for Itachi and Minato to take down Nagato (cloak or not) which can be done strategically in numerous ways. Nagato has never been exposed to Itachi's level of Genjutsu, a thing to which he remains susceptible in every regard----extending this susceptibility to each of his Kuchiyose. It therefore renders all Rin'negan paths which require close combat or to be in close proximity of the opponent not only useless but also a potential threat to Nagato as if he does decide to utilize them, he would be caught in Genjutsu and finished off----That is: Human Path, Naraka Path as well as Asura Path and Preta Path to the stated extent. Now the issue of actually stopping him as stated prior can be executed strategically. Itachi initially summons 3 karasu's while Minato tag's him with a Jutsu Shiki. A Healthy Itachi accordingly with the Sharigan's insight blazes Nagato with Amatearasu while Minato hands a Hirashin Kunai to each Karasu which then travels in a triangular course around Nagato, the apex Karasu being high above Nagato's standing point. The Eastward and Westward Karasu ground their respective Kunai while the Northward Karasu drops it's Kunai atop Nagato. During this time, Namikaze creates 2 Kagebunshin which teleport to the Eastward and Westward Kunai respectively and throw two more Kunai towards Nagato. Simultaneously Namikaze teleports the real Itachi to the Kunai falling above Nagato to which he would then activate his completely Susano'o and it's anchoring functions to seal Nagato once more; Yata no kagami being in use only if Nagato decides to turn his attention to Itachi and ignore Namikaze's bunshin's which would also leave him susceptible to a Hirashin V2 combo from each Bunshin which would once more leave him open to Totsuka no Tsurugi. Deva path's uselessness against Itachi and Minato is radiant. Chibaku Tensei is sealed with Totsuka no Tsurugi in it's early stages or teleported by Minato; only amounting to a wastage of chakra by Nagato. Shinra Tensei across a 300m distance is blocked by the Yata-no-Kagami or evaded by Namikaze teleporting both himself and Itachi via the Karasu strategy. If Nagato summons the Mazou across a 300m distance he would be dead before the dragons reach Team one or cancel the Jutsu to save his live, once more leaving him in an incapacitated state. Even if it is summoned within a reachable range, Hirashin and bunshin feints would make it impossible for them to make physical contact.

- Team one, Mid-High Diff.
 
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Every technique has a weakness and Sasuke has two smartess character going against him.

please stawp with this smarts is useless when your overpowerd plane in simple

Team Minato is tagged initially.

EMS Sasuke stalemates with and fully occupies BSM Naruto; given the properties of his Eternal Mangekyo. There is nothing BSM Naruto wields that Sasuke cannot either defend against, intercept or negate entirely. This issue is for Itachi and Minato to take down Nagato (cloak or not) which can be done strategically in numerous ways. Nagato has never been exposed to Itachi's level of Genjutsu, a thing to which he remains susceptible in every regard----extending this susceptibility to each of his Kuchiyose. It therefore renders all Rin'negan paths which require close combat or to be in close proximity of the opponent not only useless but also a potential threat to Nagato as if he does decide to utilize them, he would be caught in Genjutsu and finished off----That is: Human Path, Naraka Path as well as Asura Path and Preta Path to the stated extent. Now the issue of actually stopping him as stated prior can be executed strategically. Itachi initially summons 3 karasu's while Minato tag's him with a Jutsu Shiki. A Healthy Itachi accordingly with the Sharigan's insight blazes Nagato with Amatearasu while Minato hands a Hirashin Kunai to each Karasu which then travels in a triangular course around Nagato, the apex Karasu being high above Nagato's standing point. The Eastward and Westward Karasu ground their respective Kunai while the Northward Karasu drops it's Kunai atop Nagato. During this time, Namikaze creates 2 Kagebunshin which teleport to the Eastward and Westward Kunai respectively and throw two more Kunai towards Nagato. Simultaneously Namikaze teleports the real Itachi to the Kunai falling above Nagato to which he would then activate his completely Susano'o and it's anchoring functions to seal Nagato once more; Yata no kagami being in use only if Nagato decides to turn his attention to Itachi and ignore Namikaze's bunshin's which would also leave him susceptible to a Hirashin V2 combo from each Bunshin which would once more leave him open to Totsuka no Tsurugi. Deva path's uselessness against Itachi and Minato is radiant. Chibaku Tensei is sealed with Totsuka no Tsurugi in it's early stages or teleported by Minato; only amounting to a wastage of chakra by Nagato. Shinra Tensei across a 300m distance is blocked by the Yata-no-Kagami or evaded by Namikaze teleporting both himself and Itachi via the Karasu strategy. If Nagato summons the Mazou across a 300m distance he would be dead before the dragons reach Team one or cancel the Jutsu to save his live, once more leaving him in an incapacitated state. Even if it is summoned within a reachable range, Hirashin and bunshin feints would make it impossible for them to make physical contact.

- Team one, Mid-High Diff.

totsuka can only seal souls also genjutsu is out of the question because nagato can fight on pure senses alone
 

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EMS Sasuke is equal to BSM Naruto, so I don't see why OP needed to change it.

Itachi or minato would solo the hell out of Nagato, and it is a non-negotiable fact that EMS Sasuke can.
 
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