I told you the black orbs weren't omnyoudon.....

[Sennin of Logic]

I said it long ago that the black orbs were not omnyoudon.

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The whole point of "we hit him before he could shield himself with the black things" was to demonstrate that his power was not in the orbs, but from juubi jin's body, which can also be focused through the orbs.

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Of course, everyone ignored this and hastily called it omnyoudon. Eventually, even I called it omnyoudon since I just gave up trying to convince people. Well, now this chapter has debunked the 2 jutsus as being the same. Here's its real name.

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It's called Gudo-dama. I'll repeat what I've always said. Omnyoudon is a jutsu that enables juubi jins to delete jutus. It's from the body of the juubi jinchuriki itself, and it can be focused through the the juubi jin's jutsus. However, they are not the same. Gudo-damas are nature transformations. There's been countless evidences supporting this, but now it's all confirmed directly.

 

[Cassus]

So can he make more of them? the ones that turned Minato into swiss cheese havent come back.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

So can he make more of them? the ones that turned Minato into swiss cheese havent come back.

He might be able to make more eventually. However, it's not something he can turn off.

 

[Senpou]

Lets see if minato comes back in next chapters then it's not Onmyoudon, but if he doesn't then it is.

 

[Joon]

What? I check Google and its not a word. >.> Hurizen and Tobimaru explained it best...

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You can add Ying-Yang to the Malleable Chakra...

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[Sennin of Logic]

You just sound like a massive bellend tho

Let's see you make a logical conclusion, ignore it as if it's unfounded ignoring all logic, and then have the manga finally demonstate you were right all along. Let's see how you act then.

What? I check Google and its not a word. >.> Hurizen and Tobimaru explained it best...

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Then it must be an error. I'm pretty sure ransengan wouldn't be on google translate as well. I think you restated what I was thinking. You can use the omnyoudon through the orbs, but it's not the orbs itself.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Too be fair, it doesn't matter wtf it was, the only thing we knew it as was omnyoudon. It's a much more pleasing name than saying "Madara will throw his black balls at you". :|
At least now we know it's called gudou-dama

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Too be fair, it doesn't matter wtf it was, the only thing we knew it as was omnyoudon. It's a much more pleasing name than saying "Madara will throw his black balls at you". :|
At least now we know it's called gudou-dama

It kinda does matter, because it led to misconceptions that Juubi Jins need to intercept ninjutsu with gudo-dama in order to delete them and that senjutsu weakens gudo-dama. This is the result of confusing the 2.

 

[BK 201]

How petty. You were right. Congrats. Do you expect a prize or are you that petty to where you need to let others know you were right and others were wrong? It's not like those people didn't realize they were wrong after the chapter release so this was just petty

 

[AGoodBoy]

It kinda does matter, because it led to misconceptions that Juubi Jins need to intercept ninjutsu with gudo-dama in order to delete them and that senjutsu weakens gudo-dama. This is the result of confusing the 2.

I've never heard anyone saying this seeing as juubito was deleting ninjutsu with his body. I thought the common opinion was just that whatever the balls touch is deleted...

Actually nevermind, because i've seen some people who believe SM weakens omnyoudon, when all it does is stop it from deleting the attack. So it's possible some people argued this.

 

[Joon]

Let's see you make a logical conclusion, ignore it as if it's unfounded ignoring all logic, and then have the manga finally demonstate you were right all along. Let's see how you act then.




Then it must be an error. I'm pretty sure ransengan wouldn't be on google translate as well. I think you restated what I was thinking. You can use the omnyoudon through the orbs, but it's not the orbs itself.

[Bold] Trust me, it is. [Underline] And I guess. Referring to the Tobimaru scan.

Thread Summary: This thread is about Madara giving the malleable chakra a name. The misconception was that the audience confused it with Yin-Yang (Onmyōton).

 

[Gdamon]

good job, I figured it out a long time ago but everyone kept calling it omyoudon...

glad Kishimoto is explaining the differences...

 

[Gdamon]

do people really need to feed their own egos that much that they need to repost thread ands post threads saying they were right on naruto base

worst things have appeared on Narutobase...

 

[Conspirator.]

You are absolutely right-a short while back some morons were claiming that kakashi could actually warp onmyoudon. LOL!

 

[Dantee]

This was actually debated? This small detail is hardly even worth sharing.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

So many butthurt people in this thread trying to save face with insults Lol

They're just mad that they're wrong. Funny that they're trying to make me out as egotistical, yet no thread about this being gou-dama has been made, so they'd continue on their merry way calling it onmyoudon if this didn't exist!


My type of thread is nothing new. Theorists do this all the time and don't get crap about it. It's a universal fact that no one likes being confronted that they were wrong, so they're deflecting it by attacking me. Funny thing is, I never once claimed I was superior like an egotistical person would. I pointed out that I was right, and everyone ignored my logic. Who wouldn't make a thread when 80% of the base says you're wrong, but you turned out right? No one can honestly say that they wouldn't.

You are absolutely right-a short while back some morons were claiming that kakashi could actually warp onmyoudon. LOL!

They were referring to the black orbs, which Kakashi has canonically done.

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However, the fact that the orbs and omnyoudon aren't the same leads to a new possibility. Madara was fighting a taijutus user, so he didn't expect ninjutsu. He may not have had omnyoundon activated when Kakashi activated kamui.

 

[Conspirator.]

They're just mad that they're wrong. Funny that they're trying to make me out as egotistical, yet no thread about this being gou-dama has been made, so they'd continue on their merry way calling it onmyoudon if this didn't exist!


My type of thread is nothing new. Theorists do this all the time and don't get crap about it. It's a universal fact that no one likes being confronted that they were wrong, so they're deflecting it by attacking me. Funny thing is, I never once claimed I was superior like an egotistical person would. I pointed out that I was right, and everyone ignored my logic. Who wouldn't make a thread when 80% of the base says you're wrong, but you turned out right? No one can honestly say that they wouldn't.




They were referring to the black orbs, which Kakashi has canonically done.

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However, the fact that the orbs and omnyoudon aren't the same leads to a new possibility. Madara was fighting a taijutus user, so he didn't expect ninjutsu. He may not have had omnyoundon activated when Kakashi activated kamui.

That's a very good explanation.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

This was actually debated? This small detail is hardly even worth sharing.

It is. As I've said to AGoodBoy, this leads to misconceptions about the abilities of a juubi jin.

 

[MinaButt]

Why people so rustled over a simple thread. lol

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Why people so rustled over a simple thread. lol

It's because they've been wrong all this time when I've been right all this time. They don't like the fact that I've confirmed that I was right and confronted them about it. So now they're trying to defuse their hurt pride by calling me egotistical, which is ludicrous since, well, why would they be upset about this unless their egos have been hurt by this new revelation. So they try to diffuse it with a fake sense of morality when it reality, it's just a tool to shield themselves from the truth and comfort themselves.