Summoning in NOT ninjutsu!

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According to today's chapter, Gai is unable to use ninjutsu yet we've seen him use summoning jutsu.

However, this isn't the first time summoning has occurred when it should have been prohibited. Orochimaru summoned triple gates, when he was supposedly restricted from forming or molding any chakra.


The way Jiriya explained it, summoning is strictly a blood contract, so a summoning is part so them, which is why they're able to share chakra etc.

It explains why only Jiriya is capable of summoning the two Sages, he's the only one with the blood contract to perform the ritual.

This makes no sense to me, but Kish has decided this!
 

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But when Naruto was summoning for the first time he was using chakra. When he summoned Gamabunta he needed Kurama's chakra on top of his own chakra to summon him. This is making no sense.
 

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You need chakra to summon,
Therefore Summoning = Ninjutsu
 

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But when Naruto was summoning for the first time he was using chakra. When he summoned Gamabunta he needed Kurama's chakra on top of his own chakra to summon him. This is making no sense.

He needed it as a power boost. Chakra isn't equivalent to ninjutsu.

Chakra can be used for hand seals, but when summoning hand seals aren't required. We've seen users summon without hand seals.
 

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You need chakra to summon,
Therefore Summoning = Ninjutsu

So by focusing ones chakra in...let's say their feet. Is that using ninjutsu?
 

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He needed it as a power boost. Chakra isn't equivalent to ninjutsu.

Chakra can be used for hand seals, but when summoning hand seals aren't required. We've seen users summon without hand seals.

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So by focusing ones chakra in...let's say their feet. Is that using ninjutsu?

Yes, yes it is

Narutopedia said:
Ninjutsu (忍術; Literally meaning "Ninja Techniques"), is a term referring to almost any technique which allows the user to do something that they otherwise would be incapable of doing, including the usage of weapons.
 

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He needed it as a power boost. Chakra isn't equivalent to ninjutsu.

Chakra can be used for hand seals, but when summoning hand seals aren't required. We've seen users summon without hand seals.

So Guy does have chakra, but he is not good at molding it or using it for Ninjutsu.
 

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According to today's chapter, Gai is unable to use ninjutsu yet we've seen him use summoning jutsu.

However, this isn't the first time summoning has occurred when it should have been prohibited. Orochimaru summoned triple gates, when he was supposedly restricted from forming or molding any chakra.


The way Jiriya explained it, summoning is strictly a blood contract, so a summoning is part so them, which is why they're able to share chakra etc.

It explains why only Jiriya is capable of summoning the two Sages, he's the only one with the blood contract to perform the ritual.

This makes no sense to me, but Kish has decided this!

so much bull$#!t
next he is gonna say ftg and body flicker aren't ninjutsu
 

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Yes, yes it is

Well Kish says otherwise, you trying to make sense of a quote and go against what the created has shown isn't answering any questions lol

Obviously, that's incorrect.
 

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Who knows. Maybe gai improved after 40 years
 

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Well I think Naruto can summon any frog lol... maybe we will see them Pa and Ma to explain Gamamaru's prediction
 

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Summoning is ninjutsu. It has explained in the manga stop making stupid threads.
 

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According to today's chapter, Gai is unable to use ninjutsu yet we've seen him use summoning jutsu.

However, this isn't the first time summoning has occurred when it should have been prohibited. Orochimaru summoned triple gates, when he was supposedly restricted from forming or molding any chakra.


The way Jiriya explained it, summoning is strictly a blood contract, so a summoning is part so them, which is why they're able to share chakra etc.

It explains why only Jiriya is capable of summoning the two Sages, he's the only one with the blood contract to perform the ritual.

This makes no sense to me, but Kish has decided this!

Sorry but manga facts that Summning is ninjutsu as Jiraiya told Naruto as he explained it You call them forth using ninjutsu. Orochimaru can mold chakra, he just couldn't use his arms which is needed to do the hand seals which is neeed for the majority of ninjutsus . Also he did say he had another way at getting his arms back when Tsunade chose not to heal him, we know it's not unsealing them since he didn't know about the DRS until Hiruzen used it so he learned that way after researching and it shows the body he took over so we know it's him saying he can gain his arms back when he change bodies and .

Orochimaru was using plenty of ninjutsus on 4 tails Naruto but as we see after that, his body starts to fail him .
 

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Sorry but manga facts that Summning is ninjutsu as Jiraiya told Naruto as he explained it You call them forth using ninjutsu. Orochimaru can mold chakra, he just couldn't use his arms which is needed to do the hand seals which is neeed for the majority of ninjutsus . Also he did say he had another way at getting his arms back when Tsunade chose not to heal him, we know it's not unsealing them since he didn't know about the DRS until Hiruzen used it so he learned that way after researching and it shows the body he took over so we know it's him saying he can gain his arms back when he change bodies and .

Orochimaru was using plenty of ninjutsus on 4 tails Naruto but as we see after that, his body starts to fail him .

The first scan didn't appear

Orochimaru scan said "any jutsu" nothing about hand seals. Orochimaru was able to punch the kyuubi but still used no ninjutsu. Once revived, they stated again he couldn't use any ninjutsu

When Orochimaru reversed the seal, he said I can finally use jutsu again or so like that.
 

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He needed it as a power boost. Chakra isn't equivalent to ninjutsu.

Chakra can be used for hand seals, but when summoning hand seals aren't required. We've seen users summon without hand seals.

So according to this logic the rasengan isn't a ninjutsu because it doesn't require any hand seals???

WRONG!

Summoning just like the rasengan is a ninjutsu.
 

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Does this mean that Transformation is not Ninjutsu cuz Gai used that as well before he just rarely does it
 
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