Why cant somebody remove the black rods?

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Why cant somebody remove the black rods? the black rods that are trapping 1st and 2nd hokage? so they can help in finishing battle fast?

is it impossible to remove?
 

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They are impossible to remove because they might absorb all your chakra as far as I know.
 

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from what ive seen i think that they can be removed because nagato was traped because of them his whole life ( not his whole life xD)
 

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Naruto did it against the edo jinchuuriki, the clones he used were in KCM.
 

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from what ive seen i think that they can be removed because nagato was traped because of them his whole life ( not his whole life xD)
If he was born with those then he would be the reason his mother wasn't alive.
 

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Why cant somebody remove the black rods? the black rods that are trapping 1st and 2nd hokage? so they can help in finishing battle fast?

is it impossible to remove?


is that even necessary???
 

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Naruto removed them himself before, it's just a plot device.
 

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If he was born with those then he would be the reason his mother wasn't alive.

No his mother was not killed by the black rods. she was killed by ninjas

Btw i didnt say that nagato was born with those 0_o
 

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as hashirama said, his chakra points are destroyed and he is unable to mold any chakra.!!

so...
 

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No his mother was not killed by the black rods. she was killed by ninjas

Btw i didnt say that nagato was born with those 0_o
I meant it in a literal sense. Imagine baby Nagato in his mother still but he had the black rods sticking out of his back and she tried to give birth to him like that.
 

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Because they have been forced through their pressure points and it's best if you doint touch them
 

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It was never said that they cant be removed. Hashirama told Sasuke not to touch because of their binding force. He never said it was i possible.
 

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Madara can control people using those rods to channel his chakra into them. Like what Nagato did to Naruto when he had him pinned to the ground.
 

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Plot device to keep hashirama and tobirama from ending this fight chapters ago.
 

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If destroying the chakra points makes it so that Edo ninjas can't repair themselves than they aren't as strong as everyone has thought.

A clean hit rasenshuriken should be able to take out any Edo ninja by destroying their chakra points.

Obviously the reasoning used by Hashirama contradicts the manga. All you woud have to do is destroy parts ot the edo ninja's body and with the chakra points being destroyed with them that part of the body shouldn't recover.

It is a plot hole.
 

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Madara peed on them so nobody touches them.
 

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If destroying the chakra points makes it so that Edo ninjas can't repair themselves than they aren't as strong as everyone has thought.

A clean hit rasenshuriken should be able to take out any Edo ninja by destroying their chakra points.

Obviously the reasoning used by Hashirama contradicts the manga. All you woud have to do is destroy parts ot the edo ninja's body and with the chakra points being destroyed with them that part of the body shouldn't recover.

It is a plot hole.

Hashirama didn't state some of the points were destroyed though, but all of them. Furthermore both he and Tobirama are chock full of them, much like Nagato. Naruto was different when pein put them in him because the rods were smaller, way fewer in number and he possessed Kurama's massive chakra. Same thing with the jinichurikis/bijuus having them because they only had one small hidden one.

Based on these observations, I'd say using a barrage of gigantic ones is probably much more dangerous and potent compared to one or a few small ones since the chakra would probably be greater in volume and concentrated, thus it would be dangerous to touch and would be powerful enough to absorb all or most of the do tensei chakra, preventing it from regenerating. Naruto and Hinata could probably break them due to their high physical chakras and physical strength. Naruto is Ashura's reincarnation after all with Yang Kurama while Hinata possesses the Byakugan once wielded by Kaguya herself.

It's never exactly been revealed what the black rods are, but I'd say they are probably condensed and petrified chakra left behind by the juubi in the gidou mazou. The nine dragon spirits' power inside the mazou, which Akatsuki used to suck up the bijuus from their jinchurikis also reflects this ability, as well as the shinju, implying it must be very powerful.

Those are my thoughts.
 
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