Abortion vs prostitution

[ssjsage]

Taxes & someplace prostitution is legal.

I honestly didn't think taxes made it illegal. Thank you for letting me know

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

instead of criticizing abortion, criticize women who open their legs on a regular basis "because its their body"

I prefer prostitution over loose women, cuz at least prostitutes do it because they need to, not because they want to. Slutty is the real prostitution imo.

if they were more careful about such things, they wouldnt need abortion in the first place!!

 

[ssjsage]

instead of criticizing abortion, criticize women who open their legs on a regular basis "because its their body"

I prefer prostitution over loose women, cuz at least prostitutes do it because they need to, not because they want to. Slutty is the real prostitution imo.

if they were more careful about such things, they wouldnt need abortion in the first place!!

I agree I'm completely against abortion just because the girl doesnt want a kid. If it's to save the moms life or the mom was raped I understand them getting one. But some girls use that as their birth control

 

[Disquiet]

This right here

I was half-joking when I made that comment.

OT: OP, in my opinion, these are one of those things where cons are brought up to reinforce a morality. I can have a morality, and to prove my morality is the correct the way, I can state the consequences that will manifests in absence of my morality. Does that mean all those cons are the reason why I abhor the opposing ideal/action? No it doesn't. They exist for argument and nothing more. I cannot want to partake in something because it just doesn't "feel right", but that won't get me anywhere in an argument.

Now tell me. How many practical systems can you name that don't have any cons to it? Sometimes the cons can far outweigh any pros. You can chalk it up to luck if you wish. Deep down though, the person may know he was simply defending his idea of right and wrong against a system. In the end, those cons are not really the "why". I hope you see my point.

This could also mean that one wants to defend one particular thing, that benefits them, so would look for all the reasons in the world to make it seem more just and unbiased.

Of course, I'm not saying this is correct. Because well, those consequences can be the reason why someone dreads a particular course of action.

Just something to consider.

 

[ssjsage]

I was half-joking when I made that comment.

OT: OP, in my opinion, these are one of those things where cons are brought up to reinforce a morality. I can have a morality, and to prove my morality is the correct the way, I can state the consequences that will manifests in absence of my morality. Does that mean all those cons are the reason why I abhor the opposing ideal/action? No it doesn't. They exist for argument and nothing more. I cannot want to partake in something because it just doesn't "feel right", but that won't get me anywhere in an argument.

Now tell me. How many practical systems can you name that don't have any cons to it Sometimes the cons can far outweigh any pros. You can chalk it up to luck if you wish. Deep down though, the person may know he was simply defending his idea of right and wrong against a system. In the end, those cons are not really the "why". I hope you see my point.

Of course, I'm not saying this is correct. Because well, those consequences can be the reason why someone dreads a particular course of action.

Just something to consider.

Very well said my friend

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

It's only illegal in certain areas. The only reason it is illegal in the states is because of the idea that it leads to a poorer society.

You could apply the same argument that you make to drugs. It's your own body right? Places that banned prostitution, drugs etc... deemed them a poor influence on society and decided to try and remove them.

Whats next? Fat people are unsightly, so if you are over 300 lbs you won't be allowed outside?

I'm all for it...

instead of criticizing abortion, criticize women who open their legs on a regular basis "because its their body"

I prefer prostitution over loose women, cuz at least prostitutes do it because they need to, not because they want to. Slutty is the real prostitution imo.

if they were more careful about such things, they wouldnt need abortion in the first place!!

Quite possibly the dumbest comment I have ever read on the base, Uchiha Macho posts excluded.You contradict yourself, give a half ass opinion, then proclaim something as if it's fact when it's obvious to anyone who reads it's not..

 

[cptenn94]

What? That's two completely different things.You can't compare that. You are using
a false analogy by comparing two things that aren't similar.

How are they different?

Both are choices that are made about the womans body. Both are made by the woman. Both concern her body. Both involve a 2nd party. (although in abortion it concerns a THIRD party, aka the child being "terminated", who doesnt have a choice yay or nay)

Both are choices concerning ***. Abortion concerning the after effects. Prostitution concerning the current effects.

The biggest differences is, in one you are getting paid to have ***, and the other you are paying to remove a product of ***(the child). Both you get to choose by a case by case basis.

Its like compareing oranges and tangerines. Clear differences, but ultimately just about the same.


At the very least if you are gonna make a comment like yours say WHAT those huge differences are.



To the thread. By the logic used in abortion, most of it can be applied to prostitution. So technically both should be allowed.

I do not support prostitution, and think it is a bit despicable. But I think this is a case, where it is completely the womans choice. I would only say there should be laws that limit where a prostitute can seek buisness(aka make it where they cant go to a play ground, or other places where it is completely inappropriate.)

I do not support abortion, unless in the case of a life threatening situation.(even then I dont really support it.)
I emphathize with the womans choice arguement, but in my opinion, that does not justify physically ending a life, just to "fix" a mistake.

The only way I could even begin to tolerate it, is if in EVERY CASE, the woman was shown and made fully aware of just what they are chooseing to let happen. That they are chooseing to allow a human life to be ended. Not a cancer removed or terminated. Not a sub human parasite. But what it IS. A human child. If it is going to be killed, then it at least deserves to die, and treated with dignity. I do not hate those who choose abortion. Just their action. And potentially their mentality and thoughts.

And I appolgise for getting off topic here. If you wish to reply to my off topic comments do so via pm, or posting on my profile. Do not reply to the off topic parts in this thread.



So basically the arguement "its a womans body, so its her choice" is 100% applicable to prostitution as well. In my opinion.

Have a great day guys(and gals). Next chapter going to be good!

 

[DaileyM]

I don't think it's really comparable.

 

[ssjsage]

How are they different?

Both are choices that are made about the womans body. Both are made by the woman. Both concern her body. Both involve a 2nd party. (although in abortion it concerns a THIRD party, aka the child being "terminated", who doesnt have a choice yay or nay)

Both are choices concerning ***. Abortion concerning the after effects. Prostitution concerning the current effects.

The biggest differences is, in one you are getting paid to have ***, and the other you are paying to remove a product of ***(the child). Both you get to choose by a case by case basis.

Its like compareing oranges and tangerines. Clear differences, but ultimately just about the same.


At the very least if you are gonna make a comment like yours say WHAT those huge differences are.



To the thread. By the logic used in abortion, most of it can be applied to prostitution. So technically both should be allowed.

I do not support prostitution, and think it is a bit despicable. But I think this is a case, where it is completely the womans choice. I would only say there should be laws that limit where a prostitute can seek buisness(aka make it where they cant go to a play ground, or other places where it is completely inappropriate.)

I do not support abortion, unless in the case of a life threatening situation.(even then I dont really support it.)
I emphathize with the womans choice arguement, but in my opinion, that does not justify physically ending a life, just to "fix" a mistake.

The only way I could even begin to tolerate it, is if in EVERY CASE, the woman was shown and made fully aware of just what they are chooseing to let happen. That they are chooseing to allow a human life to be ended. Not a cancer removed or terminated. Not a sub human parasite. But what it IS. A human child. If it is going to be killed, then it at least deserves to die, and treated with dignity. I do not hate those who choose abortion. Just their action. And potentially their mentality and thoughts.

And I appolgise for getting off topic here. If you wish to reply to my off topic comments do so via pm, or posting on my profile. Do not reply to the off topic parts in this thread.



So basically the arguement "its a womans body, so its her choice" is 100% applicable to prostitution as well. In my opinion.

Have a great day guys(and gals). Next chapter going to be good!

We have very similar ideas. I completely agree with your post

 

[LED ZEPPELIN]

Google Bilderberg.
While we argue over morals, they both are used by the politicians to create a decline on population growth so with less people it's easier to control the masses and therefore politicians will have control over the people in a way that an armed revolution is not an option any more when it comes to overthrowing the dictators we call prime ministers and presidents. Welcome to the new world order. ******.

/thread

 

[Penguin]

I wouldn't mind prostitution being legal. It really wouldn't affect you anyways, and it isn't like she is hurting anyone. But they should be checked for diseases every three to six months. I could be a pimp.....

Penguin's pimping pun-tang plaza.

That will be my store.

 

[OMGitsShakra]

They aren't that different, and i can understand why you would ask that question. When has society ever done many things that make sense though....

I don't think prostitution should be illegal, i do however, think it should be controlled...no differently than they would do alcohol or pot. I think women should be registered somehow as being a *** worker, and they should be offered services (like condoms) and STD tests on the regular and i think they should have like a ID or something that prevents them from being arrested for illegal prostitution, it would help protect more women who do feel like they have no other choice..and they should pass drug tests and stuff. On the other side I do not think they should be able to have abortions, i think they should be put on BC by whatever "agency" or pimp house or whatever they go through. It would make things a lot safer in that sense.

As far as abortion goes, well....being pregnant right now totally changed my whole view point on abortion. I never thought it was ok to use abortion, especially as a form of birth control and i still stand by that it should be allowed but only in 3 or 4 circumstances. Those circumstances being, if the pregnancy will harm the mother or the child will not be able to live a normal life due to deformities or diseases...and if your under the age of 18 i think you could be alotted ONE abortion then immediately put on BC (though this choice is totally fence line for me and honestly i feel the same about it as i do the rape stuff, elaborated more on below). I honestly think it should be a requirement in this day and age for every girl to be on it, excluding religious reasons (only because those girls shouldn't be having it anyways ha ha right?) I do not think rape is an ok reason to abort a baby because regardless of those circumstances its not the childs fault and shouldn't be killed for something it had no part in. Those pregnancies should easily be handled by the government who should pay for the child to be adopted by a family who wants but cannot have children. There are simply too many people who want to adopt to just slaughter innocent children because the mom couldn't close her legs or some dude has a ego complex that makes him think something as despicable as rape is ok.

The baby is very much alive with a beating heart and spinal system/brain developing in as early as the 4-6 week period. Yes it might look like a distorted peapod..but that doesn't mean its not alive and living. Nothing besides what was mentioned above would ever justify abortion otherwise to me and its sickening to see how many WOMEN are ok with it.

All in all though, under restrictions, i do not think either should be illegal overall. We have ways to deal with these things, we are just too lazy or stupid or something to control it properly.

 

[Rioxnation]

Huh, never thought of that. I strongly believe that abortion should be available for women. Especially if they were put into rape and other drastic events.

I'm not really sure who would want to become a prostitute on their own decision, but there are 7 billion people on this planet, I'm pretty sure at least 10 would want to be on their own decision :< Like previous posts has said, that there are far more complications in this process if it was ever legal.

 

[Ldude]

What? That's two completely different things.You can't compare that. You are using
a false analogy by comparing two things that aren't similar.

Of course they're similar. This is an issue of rights over your own body. IMO both abortion and prostitution should be legal.

 

[~Sky~]

You're looking at hypocrisy in an argument. I can relate to it, but the argument itself was never a solid one to begin with.

"It's her body, therefore she can do what she wants with it." Oh the implications of this statement. I've read arguments for or against abortion that were far more in-depth and well reasoned. Same for prostitution.

There's much more to both areas apart from the individual in question.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

The way I see it. The "It's my body" argument is crap. It's not just "their body." It's their body and another living being's. I mean, it's another human being, not a zit.


It really is the direct result of ***. That is ***'s purpose. You can't expect to have *** without a condom and not expect this to happen. So, in reality, it's not like they didn't have any alternative either. They choose the risk, so naturally, since it's a baby that should have rights(should), it shouldn't have to pay for the mother and father's stupidity simply because they don't want to deal with the natural result of what they did. I mean, they knew what could happen, but choose to do it anyway.


Now, abortion should be kept as an option for those that have medical conditions that could threaten the health of the mother or if she's a rape victim. A mother's is more important than the babie's and of course, in rape, that's a legitimate case of where there was no choice.

 

[Wabbit]

Prostitution
There are women who get into prostitution because they like it.They are like professionals and there are women who are poor and are forced to get into it..That should not happen..As they say it reduces rape and other sexual crimes,we cant make a society where there is way to stop every criminal or the society where nobody becomes criminal but that is not possible so there is need for a buffer.
Prostitution is not right in the moral way but there are so many things that are not.

Abortion
Abortion is OK as long as it harms mother or any medical issues or mother too poor to support the child.Child is going to suffer if it lives anyway..We don’t have any system that overlooks such kids.If there was then it would be wrong to kill the child.That shows how ****ed our society is.We have developed this much but our society doesn’t provide any means to provide a life to all such kids even though there are so many orphans.
Another thing about abortion is the cause it.*** is nothing special these days.Humans are no different than dogs in developed countries where they do it whenever they get urge and Humans are no different than wild animals in poorer countries where there mostly forced by men for satisfaction

 

[Jack Spicer]

I don't understand prostitution being illegal because it's his/her body. Everyone is an adult. It's just *** and money.

Abortion is a completely different thing. It is someone's body, but it's a whole science/religion deal. Personally, I don't care. Since I'm not involved, it's her choice. If I was involved, I'm not sure how I would react. Depends.