Watch dogs PC requirements too demanding

[Rekudakune]

silly how ubisoft hasent learned its lesson when that their would be game would require a power house PC to run it.
now if you would want to play watch dogs on recommended settings, not even ultra then you would need either a intel i7 3770 or amd fx 8350 series CPU's
not saying that these typically would cost you about 300 dollars which is almost 3/4 of a playstation 4 price. you also going to need an 8GB RAM. now the gtx 560ti or hd 7850 is the reccomended GPU for it, but its like you have a cpu that costs more than the video card your going to run it on, its just doesnt make sense.

do you think an Athlon ii 635 x4 2.9ghz will pull it off on my machine?

 

[Corgi]

Well all I need to do is get a better video card. Mine is a little outdated to play all these newer games.

 

[BlacLord™]

I don't get the obsession with high settings, you're supposed to be playing the game, not looking at the pretty visuals.

Since it can run on an old Intel Core 2 Quad, your X4 should just about manage it.

More importantly, what's your GPU?

 

[Masterpiece7]

LOL @your avatar
OT:I don't think Athlon can run this game...

 

[mohdzarif]

I don't get the obsession with high settings, you're supposed to be playing the game, not looking at the pretty visuals.

Since it can run on an old Intel Core 2 Quad, your X4 should just about manage it.

More importantly, what's your GPU?

This^^^

I believe u should be able to run it medium to low settings pretty well maybe at 1080p....

 

[mohdzarif]

Try System Requirements Lab to see if ur PC is up to it.

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[-Yard-]

How are you guys answering his question when he hasn't listed his gpu? Honestly don't answer if you don't know what you're talking about. The GPU is what will determine the performance. The CPU is basically 1/3rd-1/2 as important as the GPU. For example, if I want a gaming computer, I'll get a $100-$150 cpu and a $250-$300 gpu. As long as there isn't a bottle neck, the gpu is what matters most in gaming. Also the cpu is several years behind. If memory serves correct it ranks below a phenom cpu, and those are below an i3. Even if you had a good GPU, with that cpu don't expect medium above 30fps at 1080p.

 

[Rekudakune]

cant run the game? athlon has capability to run cards up to current hd 7950 so dont be so un informed its a beast cpu and it comes really close to fx 6300 and 8320.

 

[Rekudakune]

I don't get the obsession with high settings, you're supposed to be playing the game, not looking at the pretty visuals.

Since it can run on an old Intel Core 2 Quad, your X4 should just about manage it.

More importantly, what's your GPU?

my current gpu is hd 4850 but it wont run the game because it doesnt have dx11 architecture. so then i had a though what if i just upgraded my gpu to AMD hd7950 since i have amd cpu and amd gpu i should expirience as less bottlneck as possible. and plus i heard 7950 is the max athlon cpu would work for until you start expiriencing major bottleneck

 

[Excālibur1]

Please stop double posting.

And, I am planning on getting a Gaming PC which can run BF 4 At Ultra at 60 FPS and possibly run GTA V and Watch Dogs at High settings..

 

[-Yard-]

cant run the game? athlon has capability to run cards up to current hd 7950 so dont be so un informed its a beast cpu and it comes really close to fx 6300 and 8320.

Did I say it couldn't run the game? Please go point that out.
Also, saying it can run cards up to 7950 is fantastic however you aren't informed about bottle-necking. In low cpu games it won't bottle neck as bad but in intensive cpu games it will bottleneck a 7950. Thus, in maxed out games you will see a bottleneck on a 7950. If you're going to call me un informed then you should at least know what bottle necking is and how the cpu and gpu work/communicate when it comes to gaming.

Comes really close to a 6300? No. The 6300 at stock has a 20% higher cinebench score to even an oc'ed Athlon ii 635 at 3.6ghz, I compared . Then you can even OC the 6300 to destroy it that much further and I know. I did.

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(Yes, I overclocked it beating the 3570k)

The 6300 has two extra cores and a better architecture, the fact you think they're close really says you're talking straight out of your ass.

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Benchmarks at stock settings.

In pass mark the 6300 scored twice as high and destroyed it in all the other tests. They are far from close.

And then you dare compare it with the 8320 which has 2 more cores than the 6300? Really you're talking complete bs. I suggest you go read some benchmarks buddy and possibly brush up on your PC knowledge.

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Scroll down to Benchmarks for that.

Your cpu is out dated, deal with it instead of making made up claims that you obviously know nothing about.

Passmark:
FX 8320 - 8,183
Athlon II X4 635 - 3,275

Please take your bs claims somewhere else.

my current gpu is hd 4850 but it wont run the game because it doesnt have dx11 architecture. so then i had a though what if i just upgraded my gpu to AMD hd7950 since i have amd cpu and amd gpu i should expirience as less bottlneck as possible. and plus i heard 7950 is the max athlon cpu would work for until you start expiriencing major bottleneck

You actually bought a 7950 for that cpu?
And you say that since you have an amd cpu and amd gpu the bottleneck should be minimal?
Are you serious? Do you know nothing about what architecture and numbers are?
It doesn't matter if you have an amd cpu and nvidia gpu/vice versa.
You can switch gpu/cpu however you like, AMD gpu and cpu doesn't mean they work together better.
Unless you have an APU and want to crossfire it with a discrete gpu but that's a different story. Instead of going by what you hear, go and just research benchmarks and architecture improvements, what takes advantage of what. Ya know. in these cases I would be a little nicer, however for you to call me uninformed in a thread where I'm answering your questions but you want to hear what you want to and that's it is just going to result in me picking apart all of your posts. Your, cpu, sucks. It's holding back the 7950, that cpu at most is more matched for a 7770ghz edition or a decent 7850. Here's a tip, go get heaven benchmark, open catalyst, run heaven in windowed mode and see what your gpu usage is. If it's below 99-100% then you have a bottle neck.

 

[Rekudakune]

Did I say it couldn't run the game? Please go point that out.
Also, saying it can run cards up to 7950 is fantastic however you aren't informed about bottle-necking. In low cpu games it won't bottle neck as bad but in intensive cpu games it will bottleneck a 7950. Thus, in maxed out games you will see a bottleneck on a 7950. If you're going to call me un informed then you should at least know what bottle necking is and how the cpu and gpu work/communicate when it comes to gaming.

Comes really close to a 6300? No. The 6300 at stock has a 20% higher cinebench score to even an oc'ed Athlon ii 635 at 3.6ghz, I compared . Then you can even OC the 6300 to destroy it that much further and I know. I did.

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(Yes, I overclocked it beating the 3570k)

The 6300 has two extra cores and a better architecture, the fact you think they're close really says you're talking straight out of your ass.

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Benchmarks at stock settings.

In pass mark the 6300 scored twice as high and destroyed it in all the other tests. They are far from close.

And then you dare compare it with the 8320 which has 2 more cores than the 6300? Really you're talking complete bs. I suggest you go read some benchmarks buddy and possibly brush up on your PC knowledge.

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Scroll down to Benchmarks for that.

Your cpu is out dated, deal with it instead of making made up claims that you obviously know nothing about.

Passmark:
FX 8320 - 8,183
Athlon II X4 635 - 3,275

Please take your bs claims somewhere else.



You actually bought a 7950 for that cpu?
And you say that since you have an amd cpu and amd gpu the bottleneck should be minimal?
Are you serious? Do you know nothing about what architecture and numbers are?
It doesn't matter if you have an amd cpu and nvidia gpu/vice versa.
You can switch gpu/cpu however you like, AMD gpu and cpu doesn't mean they work together better.
Unless you have an APU and want to crossfire it with a discrete gpu but that's a different story. Instead of going by what you hear, go and just research benchmarks and architecture improvements, what takes advantage of what. Ya know. in these cases I would be a little nicer, however for you to call me uninformed in a thread where I'm answering your questions but you want to hear what you want to and that's it is just going to result in me picking apart all of your posts. Your, cpu, sucks. It's holding back the 7950, that cpu at most is more matched for a 7770ghz edition or a decent 7850. Here's a tip, go get heaven benchmark, open catalyst, run heaven in windowed mode and see what your gpu usage is. If it's below 99-100% then you have a bottle neck.

nice you dissed the athlon out and then edited your message out. what a piece of work. and last your stated yourself that if i want a gaming computer ill get a 100-150 dollar cpu and 250-300 dollar video card and here you go.
that cpu price is about 100 dollar and hd 7950 costs about 200 dollars so then is that good?

 

[-Yard-]

nice you dissed the athlon out and then edited your message out. what a piece of work. and last your stated yourself that if i want a gaming computer ill get a 100-150 dollar cpu and 250-300 dollar video card and here you go.
that cpu price is about 100 dollar and hd 7950 costs about 200 dollars so then is that good?

Yes I edit my posts adding new info. I never deleted a single thing about dissing the athlon, athlons suck for top gaming now days and I said that in the post. Yes if I want a gaming computer I'll get a $100-$150 cpu. The athlon you have isn't $100, it's $85 and below, on most sites it's either unavailable from being so outdated or over priced for people who don't have enough money to upgrade/switch sockets and upgrade a cpu at the same time since that means upgrading the motherboard as well. I didn't say "about" $100, I said $100-$150, meaning over $100 and not going below. When you go below $100 is when you decide you're not getting a top tier gpu. Going below $100 on a cpu this gen is why you decide you're not going above settings that are maxed for every game. The 7950 isn't $200 either unless you buy it used. Not that the 7950 is bad, it's a good card, but with your cpu it might as well be a 7770ghz-low clocked 7850 because it's bottlenecked. However it isn't $200 like you claimed unless you bought yours used.

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Which if that's the case and we're able to buy stuff used with the budgets I presented in this argument I'd buy a used 7970 for around $300 if available.

I already showed you the benchmarks. The cpu performs significantly lower than the 6300. I already know the capabilities very well of the 6300 and of what gpu it can run until it bottlenecks the gpu. With the architecture of the athlon 635, I see that it isn't enough to fully run a 7950 without bottle-necking it.

The athlon was best paired with an ati 5800-6800 card. It was said that for amd around that time that games that utilized 4 cores wouldn't bottleneck the gpu (5800-6800) much but would bottle neck games that utilized 2 cores since at that time not a lot of games utilized more than 2-4 cores. Now that was for the 5800 and 6800 cards, you however are using a 7950 and expect to not be bottlenecked? It's two generations ahead of the 5800 and 6800 which was said that it would bottle neck those cards a little but not noticeably. You wouldn't be bottle necked a lot on a 7800 card but you're using a 7950, which yes, you are bottle necked if the cpu was already bottle necking 6800's in it's time.

The higher end 7000 cards are best paired with a 6-8 core cpu for games that will use more than 4 cores. This means that the card you're using is mainly not to be bottle necked until it's trying to run a game that can use more than 4 cores on the amd side. Intel however has a fake core type architecture with it's threads that is best in these situations but I digress. If you ran a game that utilizes 2 cores, you're bottlenecking the gpu obviously. If running a game that uses 3 cores, you're bottlenecking the gpu obviously, just not as much. If running a game that uses 4 cores, you're bottle-necking that gpu still because it requires more fuel from the cpu. A higher cpu can deliver more "fuel" to the cpu, but since you have an athlon with an old architecture and running a gpu designed to take advantage of new amd cpu's with more cores etc you've bottlenecked the gpu. If you try running a game that uses 6-8 cores, you've bottlenecked the gpu because your cpu only has 4 cores.

Your gpu isn't going to create more cores for your cpu to feed it game info, it's stuck. It's saying "Oh hey you can only give me a limited amount of information, I can handle loads of info, but since you can only handle 4 cores worth and this game at max settings requires 6-8 cores, I can only process what you are limited to giving. So I don't have to work as hard." The 6300 however has a much better architecture, higher frequency and more cores. So while your card is limited by your CPU only having 4 cores to fuel it and is limited to that, with the 6300 it would basically go "oh hey, there's 2 more cores to give me info now, I'll have to work harder then".


When your gpu can't work as hard as it's potential is then it is bottlenecked and you'll see lower fps in games than you would with a more faster cpu. Your cpu is bottlenecked, if you wish to claim it still isn't and that it's perfect I have a similar athlon in the living room and two 7850's in crossfire in my computer, I'll demonstrate to you how stupid it is to think a quad core amd cpu won't bottleneck a gpu made to use up to 8 cores at stock frequency before noticing a bottleneck. The two 7850's are overclocked to beat at 7970 but I'll lower the clock down to it having comparable performance to a 7950 and benchmark the system.


It's a pretty simple tho. The 635 is even bottlenecked with a 7850 and has to be Oc'ed to raise that bottleneck. Here's the thread I found on it.

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See that? The person has the same cpu as you and is bottlenecked with a 7850. You have a 7950, you're severely bottle-necked. Your cpu is out dated.




Here you go. Go learn what bottle-necking is.

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If you want to raise the bottleneck then get a water cooler and gaming motherboard and OC past 4.0ghz tho you'll still be bottlenecked and would have spent enough money to buy an 8320-8350.