Very interesting. You decided to go straight into an augmentative post instead of reading my last post. You had time to write all this up and throw in an insult right at the end (which is the only part I read), while editing your post, then look up one more post above yours (post 30).
I want to know what you have to say for yourself now.
I read your post. I just ignored it since it doesn't change the facts. Full Kurama got smaller after losing its Yin Chakra. FACT. Yin Kurama was shown to be the same size as the bijuu. FACT. Kurama Avatar was shown to be the same size as the Bijuu. FACT.
Like I said. Only an idiot would tell me Full Kurama is the same size as the Bijuu even though the smaller Kurama is equal to them in size.
this thread is funny. it has been shown the bijuu have different sizes, most likely pertaining to how much chakra the posses. the kyuubi being the most powerful should be the biggest by that standard. plus we literally see he shrinked when he lost his other half. kurama didn't just have a peice of his chakra taken away, like what obito did with the hachibi and ichibi, he split the kyuubi into yin and yang. thus separating it completely from another part of it chakra that it couldn't get back. it was a reason kishi literally showed us that kurama shrunk when it got separated. also,a ny form of the juubi towers over the rest of the bijuu. as a matter of fact it makes the bijuu look quite small by comparison.
All six Buijuu's chakra shared to Naruto are still the same size as their original via in Buijuu realm? Whens its only a shared chakra?
Ichibi and Gyuki are less then then half of their portions taken, less then Kurama, and yet came out the same size as their original (Or as you said 50% size)?
Ignored that facts that Kurama Avatar can be scaled with 100 flesh Kurama, by hand print? When you see Avatar griping the Dragon the same as 100 Kurama's grip. Since this is your main argument comparing the hand? When it should be impossible for a smaller hand Kurama to be able to wrap his hands around?
Bunta sharing the same hand size as 100 Kurama? And other summonings?
Ignored generic trees compare to 50 Kurama, Kurama avatar, and the rest of Buijuu? With bad argument that "all tress arent the same" like its suppose to change the fact that the trees compare to human (via 4th and Kushina) and 50 Kurama in their location states the difference? Size trees doesn't change the fact that one monster dwarfs over all the trees in the forest. pre 100 Kurama showed it[
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]. Hachibi showed it[
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] (I wont even take you serious if you are going to argue that trees in front of Hachibi will make 100 Kurama look bigger)
You have no evidence to scale the output of Kurama avatar, being the same scale as 50 Kurama's flesh. This is why you are desperately using logical additions /subtractions through power portions, even if its shooting you in the foot.
You cannot get out of the loop of believing 50=Avatar because 50 is the portion that was left to Naruto therefore an "avatar via manifestation" has to be what it look like before.
You didn't get his point. He isn't stating literally the same. But compatibility. Buijuu size= Summoning size via compatbility wise. And Kurama Avatar is no different.
Ichibi and Gyuki are less then then half of their portions taken, less then Kurama, and yet came out the same size as their original (Or as you said 50% size)?
Ignored that facts that Kurama Avatar can be scaled with 100 flesh Kurama, by hand print? When you see Avatar griping the Dragon the same as 100 Kurama's grip. Since this is your main argument comparing the hand? When it should be impossible for a smaller hand Kurama to be able to wrap his hands around?
Not even gonna bother replying to this nonsense as it wasn't my argument at all. You can continue with your shaky ass argument, but this scan clearly shows the Bijuu and Naruto's Kurama Avatar are the same size.
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These facts don't change. All this means is that the two Mokuryu aren't the same size.
Bunta sharing the same hand size as 100 Kurama? And other summonings?
Ignored generic trees compare to 50 Kurama, Kurama avatar, and the rest of Buijuu? With bad argument that "all tress arent the same" like its suppose to change the fact that the trees compare to human (via 4th and Kushina) and 50 Kurama in their location states the difference? Size trees doesn't change the fact that one monster dwarfs over all the trees in the forest. pre 100 Kurama showed it[
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]. Hachibi showed it[
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] (I wont even take you serious if you are going to argue that trees in front of Hachibi will make 100 Kurama look bigger)
You have no evidence to scale the output of Kurama avatar, being the same scale as 50 Kurama's flesh. This is why you are desperately using logical additions /subtractions through power portions, even if its shooting you in the foot.
You cannot get out of the loop of believing 50=Avatar because 50 is the portion that was left to Naruto therefore an "avatar via manifestation" has to be what it look like before.
These are direct comparisons of the same Avatar and the same Bijuu and the same Bijuu with 50% Kurama. I'm not interested in anything else you have to say unless its a direct response to these scans, and not you bringing in your own shaky argument while ignoring these scans. Your shitty argument basically says that since they both dwarfed trees, they are the same size. Which is shitty logic.
Lol? Is this moron serious? Size of the tree doesn't matter? Lmao, yeah, not gonna bother responding to any more of your arguments until you actually respond to the scans instead of bringing your garbage interpretation here.
If I followed your logic, I'd be a complete tard. 54/2=54? Lmfao....
This doesn't get any harder to understand. Bunta is able to grip around the arm of 100 Kurama. In fact, they are so close to reach other that their hand print size can equal to. Do not focus on the long ass tails and ears, and there you have it.
So you do the scaling now. Whos hands are bigger:
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50 Kurama or Bunta here.
*Scaling/Pending*
Results: 50 Kurama hand print is way smaller.
Lets compare Bunta to another Buijuu.
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*Scaling/Pending*
Results: Bunta's hand print and size is comparable to other Buijuu via Shukaku.
Does 50 Kurama match? Lets scale it:
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*Scaling/Pending*
Results: Nope 50 Kurama hand print does not match and isn't compatible here.
So once again using 50 Kurama and Avatar Kurama arguments gets shitted on.
50 Kurama's size=/=Avatar Kurama as I just showed you.
Now you want to keep bringing up Naruto's realm size and since, once again shitted on and admitted to ignore, the burden of proof goes to you.
Explain why a less then 50% Gyuuki and Ichibi is able to = 50 Kurama. Explain why shared chakra (X amount) of the other 6 buijuus were able to =50 Kurama, when they are less then him in chakra portions.
Explain why a less then 50% Gyuuki and Ichibi is able to = 50 Kurama. Explain why shared chakra (X amount) of the other 6 buijuus were able to =50 Kurama, when they are less then him in chakra portions.
I don't need to explain something that has no bearing on my argument whatosever. A piece of them being equal in Kurama in size doesn't change the fact that when Kurama lost his Yin Chakra, he dropped dramatically in size.
If you are going to make me prove something, make me attempt and fail to prove something that actually is related to my argument. Until then, you are just wasting your time and my time.
I don't need to explain something that has no bearing on my argument whatosever. A piece of them being equal in Kurama in size doesn't change the fact that when Kurama lost his Yin Chakra, he dropped dramatically in size.
If you are going to make me prove something, make me attempt and fail to prove something that actually is related to my argument. Until then, you are just wasting your time and my time.
No you are once again ignoring that portion chakra that were given and did not stop the Buijuu's from manifesting their original size. Your stubbornness is really sad.
Nothing here shows that Kurama Avatar is bigger than Half Kurama. I'm not interested in your flimsy "location scaling". Do you even know how to debate? Your evidence is flimsy, I have direct comparisons. I wonder which one is more valid.
No you are once again ignoring that portion chakra that were given and did not stop the Buijuu's from manifesting their original size. Your stubbornness is really sad.
Lol, once again, your head is too far up your ass to realize that the manga disagrees. Should I believe your opinion that Kurama can manifest his full size in Avatar without his Yin Half (A completely different situation from the Bijuu, who only lost chakra, not Yin specifically, so the situation isn't even comparable, thus your argument has no merit even if it did make sense, but it doesn't, which is a norm from you) even though the manga clearly shows that he can't? Even though the manga clearly shows that the Avatar is the same size as the Bijuu? Even though Flesh Kurama is shown to be equal in size with the Bijuu?
Nothing here shows that Kurama Avatar is bigger than Half Kurama. I'm not interested in your flimsy "location scaling". Do you even know how to debate? Your evidence is flimsy, I have direct comparisons. I wonder which one is more valid.
Lol, once again, your head is too far up your ass to realize that the manga disagrees. Should I believe your opinion that Kurama can manifest his full size in Avatar without his Yin Half (A completely different situation from the Bijuu, who only lost chakra, not Yin specifically, so the situation isn't even comparable, thus your argument has no merit even if it did make sense, but it doesn't, which is a norm from you) even though the manga clearly shows that he can't?
Let me put this thing into rest one last time, by keeping it real simple.
All we have to do is simply read the last 3 latest chapters to further prove my point. Lets prove my "portions=potent" point.
For those who keep arguing that 50 Kurama is not the same size has he is half power (blah blah blah)
Check this out:
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I am not putting spoilers in this one as you have to read this loud and clear. Madara stated exactly this: "You are barely able to rip off a piece of Hachibi and Ichibi"
Key words: Piece and Barely.
Piece: a portion of an object or of material
Barely: only just; almost not.
By definition thats not EVEN HALF lol.
NOW lets look at result output into Naruto!
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NOW final results!
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With peoples fallacious logic, Hachibi and Ichibi (barley piece) is the same size as "50 Kurama" lmao. I guess we have to add up that Hachibi and Ichibi full is bigger by calculations
/Thread over.
Stating anything else otherwise proves you are simply stubborn and augmentative. I will not even waste my time next time.
EjBlack, what happens in Naruto's mind cannot be taken as the absolute truth, hachibi and ichibi were indeed represented as the full size bijuu but it doenst happen outside the real world
for example obito put a small portion of hachibi chakra inside gedo mazo
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but when it was pulled out it was extremely small in size compared to the full hachibi
EjBlack, what happens in Naruto's mind cannot be taken as the absolute truth, hachibi and ichibi were indeed represented as the full size bijuu but it doenst happen outside the real world
for example obito put a small portion of hachibi chakra inside gedo mazo
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but when it was pulled out it was extremely small in size compared to the full hachibi
