[Discussion] Gin strongest of soul society.

[Gaara Of The Death]

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kyoraku clearly says they surpass the strenght of all 13 squads combined...yea he was saying the zero division>13 squads period...nano is his vice captain I'm pretty sure she has felt kyoraku spiritual pressure before...um there shikai sp is lower than Yama's so how is their bankai sp going to be higher than Yama's?...I know that having greater sp don't mean you win all the time but Yama was basically untouchable in bankai form.

Naw he's not inferior to shikai kyoraku in his bankai form if he is then its not by much...lol starkk was not useing his wolves or ceros guns when he fought kyoraku for the second time around all he was useing was 2 reagular swords, like I said he was powerless kyoraku sneak attack was what did it to him...yea he's defiantly not beating rose bankai with just his shikai nope not happening at all nothing in kyoraku shikai can defend him from rose bankai.

I don't know what manga your reading because Shunsui says that after Yama is dead...... Yama clearly said that he was the CC because he was the strongest shinigami around for the pas 1000 years.... As for Nano why would Shunsui purposely exert alot of reiastu around her, before the Rukia execution SS was peaceful for some time there's nothing to suggest Shunsui exerted his reiatsu at Nanon. You are a simple minded Bleach fan if you think the person with the large sp win the fight.......I wish there was smarter Bleach fans in here...smh.

Starrk was struggling against Shunsui and he had the wolf Linneyte with him along of his two reiastu Katana s, once again his sneak attacks never won Shunsui the fight the colour game did Starrk would've lost regardless. Once again Shunsui beats bankai Rose there's no debating Rose isn't that skilled the colour game easily ends Rose.​

 

[kotoamatsukami]

I don't know what manga your reading because Shunsui says that after Yama is dead...... Yama clearly said that he was the CC because he was the strongest shinigami around for the pas 1000 years.... As for Nano why would Shunsui purposely exert alot of reiastu around her, before the Rukia execution SS was peaceful for some time there's nothing to suggest Shunsui exerted his reiatsu at Nanon. You are a simple minded Bleach fan if you think the person with the large sp win the fight.......I wish there was smarter Bleach fans in here...smh.

Starrk was struggling against Shunsui and he had the wolf Linneyte with him along of his two reiastu Katana s, once again his sneak attacks never won Shunsui the fight the colour game did Starrk would've lost regardless. Once again Shunsui beats bankai Rose there's no debating Rose isn't that skilled the colour game easily ends Rose.​

I know he said that after Yama died I was making it clear to you that he said their power surpasses the gotei 13 cuz you said kyoraku said that the gotei 13 an zero squad was even in strenght..yea he was the strongest shinigami ever but he can't beat the zero squad I doubt he could beat two members in the group at the same time, 3 of thoes 5 members of squad zero are confirmed to be captians over 1000 years ago so trust thoes 3 strenght are not that far behind Yama's together they are very deadly lol you seen what they did with rukia an renji now imagin their power...I'm pretty sure she knows kyoraku power mabey not his bankai spirtual pressure but his base spirtual pressure I'm sure she knows an that's why she said what she said.....

Read my post again I said I know having higher sp don't mean you win but Yama seemed untouchable...take dangai ichigo his sp is very high but you can still touch him where as Yama heat surrounding him is so hot you can't touch him.

Read the manga again he never used the wolves on kyoraku in the manga only the anime, anime can't be used as proof an we all know kyoraku can't get close when starrk is useing his cero gun....lol how does the color game help him get pass rose bankai lol like really? Ur not making any sense...o yea rose is skilled by the way an could have took out letter S Quincy but told him the way his bankai worked.

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

I know he said that after Yama died I was making it clear to you that he said their power surpasses the gotei 13 cuz you said kyoraku said that the gotei 13 an zero squad was even in strenght..yea he was the strongest shinigami ever but he can't beat the zero squad I doubt he could beat two members in the group at the same time, 3 of thoes 5 members of squad zero are confirmed to be captians over 1000 years ago so trust thoes 3 strenght are not that far behind Yama's together they are very deadly lol you seen what they did with rukia an renji now imagin their power...I'm pretty sure she knows kyoraku power mabey not his bankai spirtual pressure but his base spirtual pressure I'm sure she knows an that's why she said what she said.....

Read my post again I said I know having higher sp don't mean you win but Yama seemed untouchable...take dangai ichigo his sp is very high but you can still touch him where as Yama heat surrounding him is so hot you can't touch him.

Read the manga again he never used the wolves on kyoraku in the manga only the anime, anime can't be used as proof an we all know kyoraku can't get close when starrk is useing his cero gun....lol how does the color game help him get pass rose bankai lol like really? Ur not making any sense...o yea rose is skilled by the way an could have took out letter S Quincy but told him the way his bankai worked.

Yeah it said they were equal in a different translation, if you want the official one get the Viz. Once again there's nothing to suggest they can beat bankai Yaama unless they have an ability to bypass his ability. Once again why would Nano know what Shunsui's bankai is? He was reluctant to Use it against Starrk and Joshiro said it was dangerous to use it when other are around. Nano shouldn't know about Shunsui sp or his abilities.

They're are way to negate or go around Yama's bankai Shunsui has an a ability where he doesn't have to touch you so again no.


If he never used the wolves on Shunsui how did Lillynette die. How does the color game help him get past Rose's bankai are you retarded Rose get easily overwhelmed by Shunsui while playing the game, it doesn't give Rose enough time to use his ability to take away his breath.​

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Yeah it said they were equal in a different translation, if you want the official one get the Viz. Once again there's nothing to suggest they can beat bankai Yaama unless they have an ability to bypass his ability. Once again why would Nano know what Shunsui's bankai is? He was reluctant to Use it against Starrk and Joshiro said it was dangerous to use it when other are around. Nano shouldn't know about Shunsui sp or his abilities.

They're are way to negate or go around Yama's bankai Shunsui has an a ability where he doesn't have to touch you so again no.


If he never used the wolves on Shunsui how did Lillynette die. How does the color game help him get past Rose's bankai are you retarded Rose get easily overwhelmed by Shunsui while playing the game, it doesn't give Rose enough time to use his ability to take away his breath.​

You need to show me where he said they power was even?...I know together they power surpasses Yama's no doubt about it..I said mabey not his bankai power but she may know what it does just like how kyoraku an ukitake know about Yama bankai ability when the only other time he use it that we know of was 1000 years ago an kyoraku an ukitake won't even around to see him use it...an why shouldn't nano know about his so or abilities? She's his vice captian of course she gone know something about his zanpacto.

What ability does he have that he can use from a far enough distance to where he won't burn to ashes asap?

After kyoraku did that sneak attack an stabbed him, Lillynette was never heard from again...lol so you think kyoraku is just going to recklessly attack without knowing what rose bankai is capable of? Be serious, plus from what i seen you get trapped in the circle of his music men things anyway kyoraku not just gone run threw them as long as he's under the illusion he will be trapped.

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

You need to show me where he said they power was even?...I know together they power surpasses Yama's no doubt about it..I said mabey not his bankai power but she may know what it does just like how kyoraku an ukitake know about Yama bankai ability when the only other time he use it that we know of was 1000 years ago an kyoraku an ukitake won't even around to see him use it...an why shouldn't nano know about his so or abilities? She's his vice captian of course she gone know something about his zanpacto.

What ability does he have that he can use from a far enough distance to where he won't burn to ashes asap?

After kyoraku did that sneak attack an stabbed him, Lillynette was never heard from again...lol so you think kyoraku is just going to recklessly attack without knowing what rose bankai is capable of? Be serious, plus from what i seen you get trapped in the circle of his music men things anyway kyoraku not just gone run threw them as long as he's under the illusion he will be trapped.

I told you if you want the official look for the Viz translation. Once again this was said while Yama was dead do it's safe to assume that Shunsui didn't include Yama in that statement. As for Yama he said togther they rae the only people who can beat him again if you want the, as for his zan Yama trusts them two the mots it's only lgical they should know. A for Nanao it was even said by Ukitake it was dangerous for Shunsui to use his bankai so why would he so the weak Nano his bankai??




Aagain while using there shikai Ukiake can take in and re-dorect flames while Shunsui has the shadow game, but once again we need to see their bankai's abilities.

The sneak attack wasn't necessary he would of won without it, has for Linnyete she was taking out his Shunsui's Bushgoma attack. Once again you're assuming that Shunsui will sit there and let Rose use his bankai when has Shunsui ever waited for a person to use their ability Rose gets badly overwhelmed by Shunsui.​

 

[kotoamatsukami]

I told you if you want the official look for the Viz translation. Once again this was said while Yama was dead do it's safe to assume that Shunsui didn't include Yama in that statement. As for Yama he said togther they rae the only people who can beat him again if you want the, as for his zan Yama trusts them two the mots it's only lgical they should know. A for Nanao it was even said by Ukitake it was dangerous for Shunsui to use his bankai so why would he so the weak Nano his bankai??




Aagain while using there shikai Ukiake can take in and re-dorect flames while Shunsui has the shadow game, but once again we need to see their bankai's abilities.

The sneak attack wasn't necessary he would of won without it, has for Linnyete she was taking out his Shunsui's Bushgoma attack. Once again you're assuming that Shunsui will sit there and let Rose use his bankai when has Shunsui ever waited for a person to use their ability Rose gets badly overwhelmed by Shunsui.​

Naw you gone have to post me a link or something he clearly says their power surpasses all 13 divisions together like I said he is saying squad zero is stronger than gotei 13 period don't matter if Yama is there or not..they might have a chance at beating him but they won't..it's dangerous to use while in battle with his friends cuz it might draw them in or distract them but if he's just showing what it is to his vice captain no harm should be done to her.

Lol no just no they can't stand close to Yama at all when Yama is in bankai form even the fake juha guy said if it won't for blunt vene he would have been turned to ashes..so with that being said we will just have to wait to see what their bankai can do.

Yea he would have won with out it if he used bankai most likely...linnyette was doing what?....lol sense the hole topic was about kyoraku shikai vs rose bankai I'm assuming rose is already in bankai just wating to attack an I'm pretty sure rose could easily just say bankai while fleeing away from kyoraku..rose bankai control's the senses kyoraku won't just be able to attack rose with out any of his illusion music men getting in his way.

 

[apple pie of doom]

A lot of them for sure.
Ichigo could barely dodge him, that being said, Ichigo's bankai's mean feature is its drastic speed increase, and he even put his Vizard mask on, Gin was still winning.

I don't think he could take Yama or Aizen, seeing those are nearly god-like.
The only ones standing a good chance in my opinion are Soifon ( she's fast, and shunko can augment that ) and Mayuri ( since the guy usually pulls some unexpected stuff out of nowhere, sometimes literally ).

Would'nt be able to tell for Ukitake and Shunsui though, and I'm sure current Kenpachi can take him.
Maybe Byakuya now as well after his training with squad 0.

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

Naw you gone have to post me a link or something he clearly says their power surpasses all 13 divisions together like I said he is saying squad zero is stronger than gotei 13 period don't matter if Yama is there or not..they might have a chance at beating him but they won't..it's dangerous to use while in battle with his friends cuz it might draw them in or distract them but if he's just showing what it is to his vice captain no harm should be done to her.

Lol no just no they can't stand close to Yama at all when Yama is in bankai form even the fake juha guy said if it won't for blunt vene he would have been turned to ashes..so with that being said we will just have to wait to see what their bankai can do.

Yea he would have won with out it if he used bankai most likely...linnyette was doing what?....lol sense the hole topic was about kyoraku shikai vs rose bankai I'm assuming rose is already in bankai just wating to attack an I'm pretty sure rose could easily just say bankai while fleeing away from kyoraku..rose bankai control's the senses kyoraku won't just be able to attack rose with out any of his illusion music men getting in his way.

The bold shows me you have no sense you're saying that the strongest shingami for 100 years is a non factor...smh. It was said that them two were the only one who could beat him so there's not point debating it's been said. No you're just making up BS now he said that his bankai should be used around people, trained captains wouldn't get distracted you're just making up bad arguments now because you have nothing to say. Ukitake has said his bank is dangerous he would not show it around his weak VC.


Again it was said that them two are the only one who could beat Yama so you're wrong.



He would of won without bankai Starrk was moaning about how strong he was near the end of the fight. Starrk would of beat him in shikai. In Rose vs Shunsui I'm assuming there both ready and all Shunsui needs to do is stab Rose;s shadow or call out a colour. No Orse can't just flee he loses if his shadow is exposed or if Shunsui is above it's too mcu for Rose.​

 

[kotoamatsukami]

The bold shows me you have no sense you're saying that the strongest shingami for 100 years is a non factor...smh. It was said that them two were the only one who could beat him so there's not point debating it's been said. No you're just making up BS now he said that his bankai should be used around people, trained captains wouldn't get distracted you're just making up bad arguments now because you have nothing to say. Ukitake has said his bank is dangerous he would not show it around his weak VC.


Again it was said that them two are the only one who could beat Yama so you're wrong.



He would of won without bankai Starrk was moaning about how strong he was near the end of the fight. Starrk would of beat him in shikai. In Rose vs Shunsui I'm assuming there both ready and all Shunsui needs to do is stab Rose;s shadow or call out a colour. No Orse can't just flee he loses if his shadow is exposed or if Shunsui is above it's too mcu for Rose.​

Not saying he is a non factor I'm just saying he would lose in the end if zero squad fought gotei 13...never said thoes two were the only ones who can beat him I ain't see it yet..I don't have no viz translation or have you posted any so no that was never said...lol when did I ever say his bankai should be used around people? What are you talking about?..anybody can get distracted during battle don't matter how well trained you are I also said that it might make them play by his rules aswell..no he can show it to his vice captian no harm should be done if he's not trying to target her..ukitake said don't let nobody see it meaning it can be distracting in some way I doubt it's going to kill you just by looking at it.

llike I said it never stated thoes two are the only ones who can beat him in the manga.

Ok he was just saying kyoraku was strong so? That was a stark without any of his real power like I said we seen that kyoraku could not get close to stark when stark was useing his cero guns...I'm saying if rose is in bankai form kyoraku not pwinning that easy so please stop plus he watched kyoraku fight so he knwos what to expect from kyoraku shikai..like I said his music men will get in kyoraku way kyoraku will try to slice threw them but it won't work cuz their illusions.