[Theory] Spiral Zetsu sudden appearance= kishimoto and the art of fooling the readers !!!

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I WILL NOT GO STRAIGHT TO THE POINT !!!...

-We've seen the spiral zetsu only in 5 chapters (603,604,605,606,607)...and then we saw him disappear from the Manga
completly...but then we see him suddenly appear again in the manga from nowhere in chapter 602 !!!...so where was the spiral Zetsu this whole time?? !!!!!...

-NOW I WILL GO STRAIGHT TO THE POINT !!!...
wether you believe it or not but spiral zetsu was inside obito's body this whole time !!!....hence the goofy tobi was none then spiral zetsu taking full controll of obito's body and manifesting his goofy character :..... Deidara Senpei !!!!


But of course some will say he wasn't inside obito's body becuz spiral zetsu was wearing a cloack !!!
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-sorry but this argument is Bullshit...spiral zetsu couldn't be inside obito's body becuz he was wearing a cloack??!!..lol comon !!..you think its kishi's style to give us argument like that???..of course not...so the claock is just a bait to lure us and make us think that spiral zetsu wasn't inside obito's body...just like how kishi showed us kabuto's foot and then worked hard into not allow us thinking its actually Kabuto..

-why we naruto readers just dont look at logic in it simplest ways?...logic says that if spiral zetsu and the masked man tobi had similar goofy behaviour, there must be some logical connection between them, not only that but also :

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this logical connection is simply this : the masked man integrated spiral zetsu within his body...why??..to allow him act as goofy guy and lead akatsuki from the shadow !!....

-when obito wore spiral zetsu and pretended to be Madara for first time we had like 3 voices (personalities) from the same masked man :

1-adult voice= obito
2-goofy voice = spiral zetsu
3-shrill old voice = Uchiha Madara

Note : ( plzz becarfull of fuzzy truth that itachi once warned us about...if you say obito when he was only 14 had similar old voice to that of madara becuz of his copycat abilities,then this is just your theory and opinion, in the same
way im making this thread theory..becuz kishimoto never and still didn't explain us why obito had madara's voice ..)

our KEY here is black zetsu!!!..if youjust noticed black zetsu how he treated the masked man throughout the series :
1-sometimes he calls him stupid idiot = that was spiral zetsu
2-sometimes he gave him orders/advices (hard to iterpret) and actlike bossy on him = that was Obito
3- and most of the times he acts like slave and pawn of the masked man = that was madara (the one inside spiral zetsu now is the empty shell of madara or the 2nd madara or simply uchiha madara)

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Reasons why spiral zetsu was inside obito's body OR why the goofy tobi was spiral zetsu :

-plzz watch naruto shippudden episode 32 and notice the way white and black zetsus treats tobi and speaks with him..its as if they weren't adressing obito himself, but rather the spiral zetsu...

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Tobi is a good boy !!

-the good boy/nice kid/ or nice guy WAS THE SPIRAL ZETSU and not obito !!

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When did spiral zetsu come out from obito's body??

-first notice how spiral zetsu cells start fit and auto-integrat within obito's body with the progress of time !!..

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-the spiral zetsu (along with the man inside him) emerged from obito's body ,when naruto extracted the bijuus from obito's body,without anyone noticing this...

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-the spiral zetsu and the man inside him are "THE INSIDERS" who were inside obito's body and then got emerged and they received same injuries when obito got owned simply becuz they were insame body with obito...thats why white zetsu went to heal them...

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NOTE : (i explained in other thread why tobi's true identity is uchiha madara controlling both of obito and spiral zetsu
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-if spiral Zetsu was inside obito's body then why he didn't do anything to prevent obito from being the juubi's jinchuriki since he is loyal to Madara??...

AHHA !!!...this is what condradicts my theory??...ya think so??....but keep in mind that if this counterargument didn't exist..my theory would be a 100% true fact.. thus there has to be a reason why spiral zetsu and the man inside him (2nd madara) let obito act by his free will.....but i will give a clue , a hint, a shocking fact that most of naruto readers underestimated...

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...Didn't you already make this thread?

Anyway, how do you explain Spiral zetsu using Kamui then or Orochimaru recognizing him like he was someone he knew?
 
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...Didn't you already make this thread?

Anyway, how do you explain Spiral zetsu using Kamui then or Orochimaru recognizing him like he was someone he knew?

oro did swallow a zetsu. hed know the feelings.
 

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oro did swallow a zetsu. hed know the feelings.

Assuming Spiral Zetsu and white Zetsu are the same, which so far they appear to be separate entities.

And you did not answer the first half of my question.
 

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Nice theory. This must be really true
 

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nice observation . obito's body would be so occupied .
i don't buy your logic tho
 
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Nope


Clarity:

You used the words ''that was clearly controlling obito's body'', no, it's actually not clear at all.

This is an assumption you have made based on a blank speech bubble from obito and his arm healing


Voice:

You also mentioned about Obito's voice that Kishi never explained why his voice was altered. I was always surprised why people needed to be fed this by Kishi.

Obito took on the persona of Madara, [as Tsunade explained, the name itself is power and made them throw caution to the wind], to help the plan go ahead.

He even kept up the voice against Naruto and co until he was exposed then reverted to his natural speaking voice.

This was not related to the mask/zetsu either as his mask broke against Konan and he kept that speaking voice, he kept it also when he removed it for a second infront of Sasuke, Kisame and even when zetsu came back to warn him that sasuke was in trouble against Kakashi Naruto and the rest of team 7


Arm Healing:

You pointed out the healing of his arm, but this was obviously a trait of his body being half zetsu/hashiram, [i only point to the fact that when madara saved obito, he told him that he connected a hashirama clone to him and it is currently healing him], another example is when Madara simply attached a zetsu arm to replace the arm he lost against the Biiju, hashirama's dna is quite regenerative, [especially when Hashi was said to heal without seals].


Tobi Goofy Persona

Once again, explained in the manga, it was another Persona taken on by Obito to keep himself hidden.

He clearly showed the switch when he was informed that Itachi was defeated by Sasuke, right infront of the Konoha shinobi.

He also apologised to Kisame for keeping him in the dark about who he really was also.


all explained quite simple.

Kudos for trying to think outside the box, but just like the Tobi reveal, it was quite simple
 

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I agree, nice thread.
 

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Clarity:

You used the words ''that was clearly controlling obito's body'', no, it's actually not clear at all.

This is an assumption you have made based on a blank speech bubble from obito and his arm healing


Voice:

You also mentioned about Obito's voice that Kishi never explained why his voice was altered. I was always surprised why people needed to be fed this by Kishi.

Obito took on the persona of Madara, [as Tsunade explained, the name itself is power and made them throw caution to the wind], to help the plan go ahead.

He even kept up the voice against Naruto and co until he was exposed then reverted to his natural speaking voice.

This was not related to the mask/zetsu either as his mask broke against Konan and he kept that speaking voice, he kept it also when he removed it for a second infront of Sasuke, Kisame and even when zetsu came back to warn him that sasuke was in trouble against Kakashi Naruto and the rest of team 7


Arm Healing:

You pointed out the healing of his arm, but this was obviously a trait of his body being half zetsu/hashiram, [i only point to the fact that when madara saved obito, he told him that he connected a hashirama clone to him and it is currently healing him], another example is when Madara simply attached a zetsu arm to replace the arm he lost against the Biiju, hashirama's dna is quite regenerative, [especially when Hashi was said to heal without seals].


Tobi Goofy Persona

Once again, explained in the manga, it was another Persona taken on by Obito to keep himself hidden.

He clearly showed the switch when he was informed that Itachi was defeated by Sasuke, right infront of the Konoha shinobi.

He also apologised to Kisame for keeping him in the dark about who he really was also.


all explained quite simple.

Kudos for trying to think outside the box, but just like the Tobi reveal, it was quite simple
You're right, Obito just mimicked all those personalities(Madara's,tobi,etc). Obito was the one behind all his actions... no one else....
 

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Clarity:

You used the words ''that was clearly controlling obito's body'', no, it's actually not clear at all.

This is an assumption you have made based on a blank speech bubble from obito and his arm healing


Voice:

You also mentioned about Obito's voice that Kishi never explained why his voice was altered. I was always surprised why people needed to be fed this by Kishi.

Obito took on the persona of Madara, [as Tsunade explained, the name itself is power and made them throw caution to the wind], to help the plan go ahead.

He even kept up the voice against Naruto and co until he was exposed then reverted to his natural speaking voice.

This was not related to the mask/zetsu either as his mask broke against Konan and he kept that speaking voice, he kept it also when he removed it for a second infront of Sasuke, Kisame and even when zetsu came back to warn him that sasuke was in trouble against Kakashi Naruto and the rest of team 7


Arm Healing:

You pointed out the healing of his arm, but this was obviously a trait of his body being half zetsu/hashiram, [i only point to the fact that when madara saved obito, he told him that he connected a hashirama clone to him and it is currently healing him], another example is when Madara simply attached a zetsu arm to replace the arm he lost against the Biiju, hashirama's dna is quite regenerative, [especially when Hashi was said to heal without seals].


Tobi Goofy Persona

Once again, explained in the manga, it was another Persona taken on by Obito to keep himself hidden.

He clearly showed the switch when he was informed that Itachi was defeated by Sasuke, right infront of the Konoha shinobi.

He also apologised to Kisame for keeping him in the dark about who he really was also.


all explained quite simple.

Kudos for trying to think outside the box, but just like the Tobi reveal, it was quite simple
Haha that's what I'm talking about, specific points and specific arguments, reps fro you man, minamoto you might have succeeded in fooling some that buy your generalities but against someone who is using specific counter-arguments you don't stand a chance. I still expect your answers to the question I posed you to your other thread, to the one in which you try so hard not to answer directly.
 

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Nice theory. Dattebayo!
 

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Haha that's what I'm talking about, specific points and specific arguments, reps fro you man, minamoto you might have succeeded in fooling some that buy your generalities but against someone who is using specific counter-arguments you don't stand a chance. I still expect your answers to the question I posed you to your other thread, to the one in which you try so hard not to answer directly.

you again?..i already answred your kestion didn't i?..

Nice theory. Dattebayo!
thxx bro!!
 
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Your just posting the same stuff over and over again to desperately prove your theory, which has already been disproved.

Tobi is Obito not Madara, its over.
 

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your just posting the same stuff over and over again to desperately prove your theory, which has already been disproved.

Tobi is obito not madara, its over.

me ftmfw !!!
 

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No you're wrong, you should get over the fact that Obito is Tobi(yes the badass Tobi you admire so much is Obito and all his actions were his alone), you are really desperate, and stop posting the same stuff over and over and over again, you're just trolling at this point, please log off sit down with yourself and think about this logically
 
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