Neji was 100% correct!

[iNotorious]

Lol well, it didn't matter to me because it was my personal opinion. I just clarified it so no one would get insulted.

What i'm saying is you should had added those little details.

 

[Cerise]

What i'm saying is you should had added those little details.

I know and I will remember that in the future, I just usually don't get people bothering to read or reply to my stuff so I just say what's on my mind.

 

[Sir Blades]

Sad but true, one of the few reason's why i miss part one.

 

[Dark Magician]

True and what piss me is how Sasuke gets another free powerup so Kishi can keep up the whole Narusasu brother crap.

 

[Flawž]

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[Amaterasuice]

Oh look, another "Hurr durr Naruto didnt werk hard" thred.

No, this is a Naruto AND Sasuke were destined to be strong thread. They did in fact work hard and it did benefit them more than if they didn't. But he is right in saying the two were obviously going to be Op even if they didn't work hard.

 

[Dannie]

Oh look, another "Hurr durr Naruto didnt werk hard" thred.

Don't get the wrong idea. I didn't make this thread just to belittle Naruto. I already know that he worked hard at some points. Both him and Sasuke. I just feel that that hardwork and effort has been completely destroyed, especially in Shippuden.

 

[Amaterasuice]

True and what piss me is how Sasuke gets another free powerup so Kishi can keep up the whole Narusasu brother crap.

I'm pretty sure they're both getting a powerup. I sincerely hope they both do anyway.

 

[scorezor]

You can't change your destiny. You can't change your fate. No matter how much you work and train, if you are already destined to be strong, then that effort is simply useless as you are already granted incredible strength from jump street. The reason why Kage are Kage is because they were destined to become hokage. You cannot just become Hokage by just wishing for it. It has to come natural and that is clearly what Neji was talking about.

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Lee and Naruto are very funny characters. Lee, a hardworking individual who believes that hardwork and training will amount for success over the gifted genius, and Naruto believes that people can simply change their destiny.

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The prophecy of the great lord elder even noted how Naruto was chosen to bring about great change to the ninja world with his Kyuubi power if he learned to control it properly. Naruto, who was already destined to be the child of prophecy and born into the Uzumaki clan, talks about hardwork and effort, but this can all be declined because Naruto was already born to be a strong person and it was his destiny to fight a strong Uchiha with powerful eyes (Sasuke). That was his destiny from the beginning.

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It's funny how this guy can talk about changing your destiny when in fact this guy was gifted with a large chakra pool + the Kyuubi's enhanced chakra and being a strong individual to change the ninja world. After Naruto was destined to be the savior, all of his words about hardowork and determination have been nullified.
Then we come to the recent chapters, which state that Naruto and Sasuke are reincarnations of Ashura and Indra. This right here, is proof enough that Naruto and Sasuke do not need hardwork to be strong as they were already chosen to be strong from the beginning.

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It's clear that these two individuals were destined choosers to be strong individuals of past entities. The very definition of hardwork and effort is useless when you are already the reincarnations of two of the strongest people to ever exist in the Narutoverse.

This series has completely moved from that hardworking individual who trains and tries to get stronger (Lee) over the genius who was born with talent (Neji)<-------------that notion has completely been destroyed as powers, destinies and generations of past members have completely overthrown this theme into the wind.

Knowing this base, I will probably get some hate, but this is how I feel.

sorry ... the quick way to get through this thread is for you guys to check this chapter review of KOL.

 

[Dark Magician]

I'm pretty sure they're both getting a powerup. I sincerely hope they both do anyway.

They are but Sasuke is still not "good". This war arc is just free powerups for the both of them.

 

[iNotorious]

I know and I will remember that in the future, I just usually don't get people bothering to read or reply to my stuff so I just say what's on my mind.

Maybe because you have low posts counts, it happened to me, but people will notice you more in the future

 

[Amaterasuice]

They are but Sasuke is still not "good". This war arc is just free powerups for the both of them.

That last part is true, while the Sasuke thing is debatable. He's giving us mix readings, ironically like his brother did throughout the whole manga.

 

[~Sky~]

Ashura never would have transmigrated to Naruto if not for Naruto's efforts though.

 

[Cerise]

Maybe because you have low posts counts, it happened to me, but people will notice you more in the future

Noob curse. Lol

Thanks for everything!

 

[Dark Magician]

That last part is true, while the Sasuke thing is debatable. He's giving us mix readings, ironically like his brother did throughout the whole manga.

Sasuke is going to do it his way. And for the whole manga it been said that Naruto is the one thats going to change Sasuke.

 

[KingHashirama]

Holy sh*t what is the logic though bro?

What you do becomes your destiny...


Destiny is decided by the people. Naruto would not be the child of prophecy if he didn't work for it.. Maybe these scans from a non-Naruto manga will help explain more about the "destiny" crap.

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[narutokage99]

Neji should have been better in the role of Indra's reincarnation.
Previous transmigration was with a Senju and an Uchiha.
Now if Kishi folowed a logic, Naruto is Uzumaki so it would be better to have a Hyuga ...
Kishi choosed Uzumaki and Uchiha instead.

 

[iNotorious]

Noob curse. Lol

Thanks for everything!

True that haha

OT: Neji was correct at that time but not anymore, i guess.

 

[hixa kuogame]

Destiny and prophecy are two different things.
Destiny is what is planned out for you in life regardless of your actions. A prophecy is a telling of what will happen in your life based on what you've accomplished. Its more like a prediction.
Naruto wasn't destined to become the world's savior. That's only what the sage toad predicted.
It's clear that Naruto, and at some extent, Sasuke both worked hard, so how has the meaning of work ethics been destroyed in Naruto?

 

[RedRobin]

Neji was still wrong. Naruto wouldnt be where he is today had he not worked hard.