MS Sasuke>SM Naruto was just obliterated this chapter

[Sennin of Logic]

I'm sure everyone's aware of how some use this scan to "prove" MS Sasuke was stronger than SM Naruto.

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First off, here's the viz scan so you know what was actually said.

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"You don't beat Sasuke by being strong. Inside him is....." This, as I've said countless times, was an implication that Naruto was saying that he couldn't defeat Sasuke's ideals with just fighting or what he represents. Lo and behold.... this chapter came out.

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So, in other words..... It was never a question of power. He said he can't "beat" Sasuke because of Indra. Most likely, Naruto guessed that Indra would just pick someone else. One could even say that this makes Sage Mode Naruto stronger than MS Sasuke since he had no doubts about beating him.

As for the other example, the one where he said that he needed Kurama to fight him..

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This too, is not a valid example as this was clearly Naruto thinking that Sasuke was only going to get stronger. In fact, this was the time when he was getting the surgery for EMS, so it goes to reason Naruto needed the 9 tails to beat what Sasuke was about to become.



So sorry Sasuke fans, but you no longer have a "fact" to hide behind. It's completely debatable. Tell me what you think everyone.

 

[UCE]

yep. seems so bro

 

[Raekwon26]

So, where does it say Naruto was stronger than him and able to beat him?

 

[Sennin of Logic]

yep. seems so bro

Don't get me wrong. If people think MS Sasuke>SM Naruto, that's fine. I just wanted to show that it's no longer a "manga fact."

 

[Dirty Samoan]

sauceboy still searching for it!!! SM Naruto> Pain so sauceboy MS or NOT FAILS

 

[Pirate King]

Eh it could go either way

I lean more towards naruto just because he has many large scale attacks

 

[BijuuMatrix]

So, where does it say Naruto was stronger than him and able to beat him?

Zetsu said after the defeat of Pain, Naruto could be stronger than Sasuke.

 

[TheRapGuy]

sauceboy still searching for it!!! SM Naruto> Pain so sauceboy MS or NOT FAILS

SM Naruto > Pain? Really?

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

I'm sure everyone's aware of how some use this scan to "prove" MS Sasuke was stronger than SM Naruto.

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First off, here's the viz scan so you know what was actually said.

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"You don't beat Sasuke by being strong. Inside him is....." This, as I've said countless times, was an implication that Naruto was saying that he couldn't defeat Sasuke's ideals with just fighting or what he represents. Lo and behold.... this chapter came out.

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So, in other words..... It was never a question of power. He said he can't "beat" Sasuke because of Indra. Most likely, Naruto guessed that Indra would just pick someone else. One could even say that this makes Sage Mode Naruto stronger than MS Sasuke since he had no doubts about beating him.

As for the other example, the one where he said that he needed Kurama to fight him..

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This too, is not a valid example as this was clearly Naruto thinking that Sasuke was only going to get stronger. In fact, this was the time when he was getting the surgery for EMS, so it goes to reason Naruto needed the 9 tails to beat what Sasuke was about to become.



So sorry Sasuke fans, but you no longer have a "fact" to hide behind. It's completely debatable. Tell me what you think everyone.

they were never facts to begin with...it's just naruto's humble opinion .

 

[Sennin of Logic]

So, where does it say Naruto was stronger than him and able to beat him?

It doesn't necessarily. However, I said it could be taken that way since it was implied that Naruto had the strength to win. He was stated to be stronger than Sasuke when he first got MS though.

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[SIX PATHZ]

wt are u talking abt.we talk abt this already.naruto was never say he is strong enough.he wanted kyuubi too. and in that time remind of his sm skills. cmon man

 

[take it easy]

you 100% destroyed sasukebase argument

 

[Gerkak]

I agree. I always believed MS sasuke and SM naruto were roughly equal. Though I personally think MS sasuke had a slight edge.

 

[Raekwon26]

Zetsu said after the defeat of Pain, Naruto could be stronger than Sasuke.

Could?

So it's a definite fact?

I'm so sick and tired of threads like this.
Complaining and crying about how a particular manipulates the Manga to suit their own agende and people go right ahead and do the same.

 

[Gatsuuga]

The fact that Naruto said "that just being stronger wasn't enough" would suggest that he knew he was stronger at the time (this is assuming your using the Viz scan). Zetsu also suggested that SM naruto was stronger then MS Sasuke at one point, I think it was just before the Kage summit. Anyway this won't change anything since fapboys will just shift from using a flawed translation to using the kyuubi scan you posted second.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

wt are u talking abt.we talk abt this already.naruto was never say he is strong enough.he wanted kyuubi too. and in that time remind of his sm skills. cmon man

Already addressed that dude.

 

[Raekwon26]

It doesn't necessarily. However, I said it could be taken that way since it was implied that Naruto had the strength to win. He was stated to be stronger than Sasuke when he first got MS though.

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You're doing exactly what you accused the Sasuke fans of doing; making an assumption based on a 'could, if, maybe, etc'.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Could?

So it's a definite fact?

I'm so sick and tired of threads like this.
Complaining and crying about how a particular manipulates the Manga to suit their own agende and people go right ahead and do the same.

Oh stop, I'm not manipulating facts. I'm only showing how their usage doesn't work. I only said it could be taken that SM Naruto>Sasuke. I never really used an argument. I merely am saying it's up for opinion.

 

[the entire forum]

whatever.. we all knew that MS sasuke>SM naruto...so meaningless thread

 

[AlphaScythian]

BS.

What naruto says is that despite weakened sasuke indra's chakra would kick in and he and his ashura would get soloed as he isnt in possession of bijus or multitude to help him.

Later he openly admits that he is in need of kurama to fight sasuke, which is clear as day statement about power, yet not valid you say?