Naruto's hard work

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huge chakra reserves but remember he almost all the time did training like no one else
almost every single time after training session he was in hospital bed or in sleep for days. that just goes to show how hard he worked & his mental strength to do same thing again & again without getting tired of it goes to show how dedicated he is.

no what lee and guy do for training is hard work. does naruto do 500 laps around the leaf on his hands. naruto doesn't necessarily work hard.he learned rasengan in 2 weeks when it took other like minato 2 year. the only thing he actualy trained for was rasenshuriken after time skip he came back with the same stuff learned literally nothing if he was training really hard he would of learned some new tech.
kcm he just stacked rock.

FYI:naruto never went to the hospital cause he was training to much if he did i would like to see the scan
 

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what is up with Sasuke fans being so butt hurt to day
Naruto did work hard. even if he did have a large chakra reserves doesn't mean it was unfair he only had that because he was an uzumaki and they have large reserve's of chakra.
and again just because you have a large reserve's of chakra doesn't mean you didn't work hard to obtain something that like saying thats like saying that hashirama didn't work hard because he has a reserves of chakra.
pls stop being so butt hurt

Having high chakra reserves is like doing all in easy mode. There is no hard working involved, not as much as others at least.

Also there is nothing to suggest that Hashirama worked hard.
 

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His huge chakra reserves made the training seem like nothing, is what i'm trying to say. He doesn't work hard, he's just lucky that hehas the reserves to keep going.

you dont understand what everyone else is saying

let me put it like

a normal person who can train for 10 hours then get tired & rests for a while

but someone like Naruto who can train for whole day and then get tired but still he refuses to give up & try again & again its like his will multiplies his efforts so he end up training for like 3-4 days instead of just a day. that my friend is hard work.

and worn himself out every single time
 

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It's all about the chakra reserves, with it u can pretty much do anything.

the main obstacle was the kyuubi, once he figured how to get that out of the way, it became a smooth ride
 

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Well his high reserves did give him poor control so I wouldn't say it's such a godly advantage.
 

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you dont understand what everyone else is saying

let me put it like

a normal person who can train for 10 hours then get tired & rests for a while

but someone like Naruto who can train for whole day and then get tired but still he refuses to give up & try again & again its like his will multiplies his efforts so he end up training for like 3-4 days instead of just a day. that my friend is hard work.

and worn himself out every single time

Others did the same, but they were not helped by their pet and clan stamina. He was lucky. In days he could do what others could not in months. No hard work at all.
 

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he does work hard bro who else did we see work towards exhaustion
 

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no what lee and guy do for training is hard work. does naruto do 500 laps around the leaf on his hands. naruto doesn't necessarily work hard.he learned rasengan in 2 weeks when it took other like minato 2 year. the only thing he actualy trained for was rasenshuriken after time skip he came back with the same stuff learned literally nothing if he was training really hard he would of learned some new tech.
kcm he just stacked rock.

FYI:naruto never went to the hospital cause he was training to much if he did i would like to see the scan

Nope, you are right. It was never because of training too hard. The closest to that was the 1st time he used Rasenshuriken in Battle against Kakuzu, but that was a battle and not training. so you are correct.

I agree about the time skip thing too. 3 years training under a Sage Sannin and he couldn't have come out with some of the wind justu like Danzo had? Could you imagine if Naruto had all those different wind jutsu? We had to see them from Danzo? Really?

I have nothing against Naruto. Sure he did work hard, but in all rights, Naruto is no less "blessed" with good genes than Sasuke or Hashirama. Kishi kind of Undermined the whole "turning top shinobi through hard work" theme by making Naruto super special.
 

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Nope, you are right. It was never because of training too hard. The closest to that was the 1st time he used Rasenshuriken in Battle against Kakuzu, but that was a battle and not training. so you are correct.

I agree about the time skip thing too. 3 years training under a Sage Sannin and he couldn't have come out with some of the wind justu like Danzo had? Could you imagine if Naruto had all those different wind jutsu? We had to see them from Danzo? Really?

I have nothing against Naruto. Sure he did work hard, but in all rights, Naruto is no less "blessed" with good genes than Sasuke or Hashirama. Kishi kind of Undermined the whole "turning top shinobi through hard work" theme by making Naruto super special.

Well there was the comment the sage made about Naruto's parents being amazing and Naruto not so much.
 

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Think about this, Naruto was able to create an entirely new jutsu in a few days (Rasenshurikan), something that not even his father could do - the so called genius.

The kage bunshin training method reduces the time factor only, it doesnt reduce the amount of effort one has to put into the training



With a clone you can do twice the training in 1 hour, whereas you would need 2 hours if you did it alone, but the amount of effort the clone and the original put was the same that the original alone would put in 2 hours

With thousands of clones, training of years was reduced to days but the amount of effort put was the same that he would have to put if he did it alone, he did train for years in a sense, consider it a hyperbolic chamber type training
 

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what is up with Sasuke fans being so butt hurt to day
Naruto did work hard. even if he did have a large chakra reserves doesn't mean it was unfair he only had that because he was an uzumaki and they have large reserve's of chakra.
and again just because you have a large reserve's of chakra doesn't mean you didn't work hard to obtain something that like saying thats like saying that hashirama didn't work hard because he has a reserves of chakra.
pls stop being so butt hurt

I'm no sasuke fan for sure, but in this rare instance. the OP does have a valid point. Not saying Naruto isn't hard working. He is. But so is Sasuke. And like Sasuke, Naruto was born into the almighty three clans:

Senju
Uchiha
Uzumaki

These 3 clans are, without a doubt the most powerful in the Narutoverse.


The kage bunshin training method reduces the time factor only, it doesnt reduce the amount of effort one has to put into the training



With a clone you can do twice the training in 1 hour, whereas you would need 2 hours if you did it alone, but the amount of effort the clone and the original put was the same that the original alone would put in 2 hours

With thousands of clones, training of years was reduced to days but the amount of effort put was the same that he would have to put if he did it alone, he did train for years in a sense, consider it a hyperbolic chamber type training

This is true. But who have we seen create the multitude of Shadow clones Naruto has? I'm sure there are those who can, but they need to have insane amounts of chakra like the Senju or....the Uzumaki. Sure the shadow clones help speed up training, which is genious in itself. But the sheer number that Naruto can creat is something only exceptional ninja can do.

Well there was the comment the sage made about Naruto's parents being amazing and Naruto not so much.

Yet he was able to take Sage mode to levels his own master and father couldn't achieve. Even though Pa may have said this, it didn't turn out to be true now did it :happy:

Naruto is exceptional. Nothing wrong with that. It was bound to happen. He is the protagonist and the protagonist should be special.
 
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You're wrong on a lot of accounts.

For one, every time we see Naruto training, he is under immense physical exhaustion. For example, training to learn the Rasengan. He literally trained so hard that he passed out on the training ground. Discrediting him for learning powerful techniques quickly says nothing about his training, it rather shows his ingenuity and clever nature.

He learned the Rasengan and FRS through unorthodox methods that only he had the capability of doing thanks to his reserves.

He had to work very hard to figure it all out, and it was never easy for him. He was just good at finding work arounds and using his brain in a different way.

Also, you should re-work your argument against him. There are a lot of exaggerations on your part, such as setting Rock Lee, the hardest worker in the manga, as the bar for what training should be. In part 1, whenever Naruto was not on a mission, where was he? Training. What was he doing for 2 and a half years? Training. Once he returned at the beginning of part 2, the events of the rescue Kazekage arc and Sasuke and Sai arc happened in such short time that Naruto did not have time to train.

You also exaggerated when you said that Naruto can train to learn something and get it after one time. Do you have any examples of this? Because there is none, none at all.
Sure, I exaggerated a bit, but to get the point accross.

Naruto didn't train harder than any other individual in the manga, unless there ws someone who didn't train at all.

He trains ubtil he runs out of chakra, that's something everyone else does. He's just lucky he has those reserves.
 

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and what would u call this !!!??? Naruto worked harder than Neji, Sasuke, even than Kakashi .... (just not harder than Leee . He's the king of hard working )..

U can learn fast and hard or slowly and easy .. Naruto chose fast/hard and step by step there he is . Meeting the man nobody did .

and If u're trying to demolish the bond Ashura-Naruto -Hagoromo didn't say so cuz Naruto is a hardworking ninja like him , but cuz of his path ... finding peace through Love or so . (otherwise he would meet Lee not Naruto)
 

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many chapters ago Madara said the tree is trying to get its chakra back, he also said the tree’s fruit grows once every thousand years. I don’t know if a thousand years have pasted from the time the Sage’s Mother picked an ate the fruit, ether way the tree would need to get MUCH of its chakra back or some to bear fruit once again. Madara could have lied to Obito about his plan and made up the moons eye plan and just wanted the Fruit. it would make cents, Madara believes in power above all and the clan tablet said some things about the fruit and the power the sages mother got. I think thats what he real wants.
 

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lol, kinda agree, just wish he didn't have so many advantages, plus no one can deny that the only reason he's alive is because the kurama kept saving his ass in part 1...
 

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hard work doesn't have a true time limit. the point is it didn't come easy to him. for instance rasengan took him a considerable less time to achieve. but you are missing the fact rasengan is meant to be done with one hand. in order for naruto to circumvent the one hand problem he had to slit duties with a clone. thus he was able to cut the time needed to learn/do it with one hand by just doing the same thing with to different bodies. while that is very clever, had he been a true genius, he would have been doing it with one hand. now he did technically teach himself shadow clones in one night, but all before he couldn't even make a regular clone which i'm guessing is a gennin level ability. with FRS if it wasn't for the method that kakashi came up with he may not have been able to complete the tech. even so he needed multiple people in order to make it work, like going to asuma for help for example. also, the fact he has large chakra reserves may be an advantage, but it doesn't take away from your hard work. all having larg chakra reserves does is make sure you last longer, that's it. it's not like he can just look at a technique and copy it. ;) but still, while calling him talent less may be an exaggeration, he shouldn't be considered a genius or have his hard work questioned.
 

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Didn't work as hard as Guy and Rocklee but he do his fair share of training.
 
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