sakura vs kiba?

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Wouldn't Kiba's technique just drill through any rocks coming his way?
It would but it could slow down the technique. Plus he'd be taking damage from all the debris, shockwaves, etc. In other words, I Kiba's fang over fang or whatever variant will become harder to maintain and his movements will slow down as well.
 

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wolf fang over fang rips her in half did you read the post lol

Katsuyu can split herself up to the point where she's in a near liquid state. No fang technique cuts on that level. All his efforts would be useless.

Kiba uses his smell whenever he is using fang over fang or a variant. Guess what, sleep gas bombs are super effective... But let's say they get repelled by the shockwaves from Kiba's attacks then Sakura can smash the ground underneath Kiba to mess Kiba's assault and then finish him off if he isn't dead already.

Sakura wins mid difficulty.

I don't think kiba is losing his balance when using all fours technique. Even if she punches the floor. The air around vFang wolf fang cuts targets before contact is made. So unless it's some boulders it's not impeding his assaults.

Sleep gas will work though. Especially since kiba aims wolf fang with pee.

Spinning fang doesn't need said assistance though.
 
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To successfully hit Sakura with the same technique he used on Sakon & Ukon (and by extention anything above as well), he first needs Akamaru to pee on her. Good luck accomplishing that when she's an evasion master and has intel on his biggest moves after fighting alonside him now during the war.
Sakura wins imo.
 

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- In no way shape or form is Sakura keeping up with Kiba's speed.

- Debris isn't doing anything, Kiba can fight blind, he's done so in canon.

- Sakura is maybe the size of the mouth of one head on Kiba's cerberus.

- Sakura has no regen feats, stop giving her abilities she hasn't shown.

- Kiba easily drilled through like, 20 Juubi clones without slowing pace. Rocks aren't slowing him down.

- The slug is a foolish argument. All it can do offensively is spit acid, which is easily dodged. The only other thing it's good for is healing which won't matter since Kiba can literally tear Sakura to shreds.
 

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To successfully hit Sakura with the same technique he used on Sakon & Ukon (and by extention anything above as well), he first needs Akamaru to pee on her. Good luck accomplishing that when she's an evasion master and has intel on his biggest moves after fighting alonside him now during the war.
Sakura wins imo.

Both he and akamaru already have her sent. And the tech he used on juubi clones doesn't require pee.
 

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Both he and akamaru already have her sent. And the tech he used on juubi clones doesn't require pee.

Its not about having her scent, its about being able to detect it while they spin so fast. The pee has a stronger odor, that's why they needed to use it against Sakon & Ukon.
The clones situation was different. There were multiple clones, not far from each other and i can't remember even one trying to evade an attack (either from Kiba or anyone else, doesn't seem to be their forte). I doubt it would work in a serious 1v1 w/o pee.
Pee is fundamental for Kiba to fulfill his duties as a shinobi.
 

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Katsuyu can split herself up to the point where she's in a near liquid state. No fang technique cuts on that level. All his efforts would be useless.



I don't think kiba is losing his balance when using all fours technique. Even if she punches the floor. The air around vFang wolf fang cuts targets before contact is made. So unless it's some boulders it's not impeding his assaults.

Sleep gas will work though. Especially since kiba aims wolf fang with pee.

Spinning fang doesn't need said assistance though.
It's not like that. Sakura uses her fist and sends Kinetic energy through the ground that ruptures it thus making rocks form/spike out of the ground. Here is what it would look like: Note: the lines are kiba, the O is Sakura, and the ^ is the rocks rupturing.


--------- O
^^^^^

Right as Kiba starts spinning towards Sakura she slams her fist into the ground causing rock spikes to form impaling Kiba & Akamaru from underneath.
 

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Its not about having her scent, its about being able to detect it while they spin so fast. The pee has a stronger odor, that's why they needed to use it against Sakon & Ukon.
The clones situation was different. There were multiple clones, not far from each other and i can't remember even one trying to evade an attack (either from Kiba or anyone else, doesn't seem to be their forte). I doubt it would work in a serious 1v1 w/o pee.
Pee is fundamental for Kiba to fulfill his duties as a shinobi.
lol. I can't.
 
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Logic wise Kiba should win, but now he's way behind Sakura power wise. Sakura should win with mid difficulty. One well connected punch and Kiba's dead, along with Akamaru
 

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I don't think kiba is losing his balance when using all fours technique. Even if she punches the floor. The air around vFang wolf fang cuts targets before contact is made. So unless it's some boulders it's not impeding his assaults.

Sleep gas will work though. Especially since kiba aims wolf fang with pee.

Spinning fang doesn't need said assistance though.
It really isn't about losing balance here. If Kiba is on the ground, he gets sent flying especially when he is using fang over fang or its variants simply because he doesn't have much control over his movements. The shockwaves Kiba's stronger fang over fang variants are indeed strong, but they only go in the forward direction whereas the shockwaves from Sakura's punch come from beneath the ground so Kiba isn't nullifying Sakura's shockwaves whereas when Sakura punches the ground, a is created around her which could nullify Kiba's attack. If Kiba is too close then those spikes will impale him from underneath and they can go up in the air to about 100 m. All in all Kiba's attack will miss and he can't change his direction while in midair to counter Sakura's own counter to Kiba himself.
- In no way shape or form is Sakura keeping up with Kiba's speed.
Yet all of Kiba's opponents, none of them speedsters, kept up with his speed just fine.
- Debris isn't doing anything, Kiba can fight blind, he's done so in canon.
No one even talked about debris doing anything in this matchup. Kiba can fight blinded, true, but then he won't be able to distinguish the smoke from his own smoke bombs and Sakura's punch with sleep gas bombs.
- Sakura is maybe the size of the mouth of one head on Kiba's cerberus.
Kiba is maybe the size of an ant compared to a giant hill compared to the devastation Sakura causes.
- Sakura has no regen feats, stop giving her abilities she hasn't shown.
Okay, I don't need to give her any regen feats anyway. Although I don't understand why Lee gets Gai's feats but Sakura doesn't get Tsunade's.
- Kiba easily drilled through like, 20 Juubi clones without slowing pace. Rocks aren't slowing him down.
He only drilled through , and his pace was slown down since he didn't manage to take down the Juubi clones at the . Sakura took down even more Juubi clones thus showing her superiority in that regard. Mere rocks aren't slowing Kiba down but large walls of earth most definitely will.
- The slug is a foolish argument. All it can do offensively is spit acid, which is easily dodged. The only other thing it's good for is healing which won't matter since Kiba can literally tear Sakura to shreds.
How is Kiba dodging while doing fang over fang? He isn't going to suddenly see the acid and change his direction while using his technique.
 
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It really isn't about losing balance here. If Kiba is on the ground, he gets sent flying especially when he is using fang over fang or its variants simply because he doesn't have much control over his movements. The shockwaves Kiba's stronger fang over fang variants are indeed strong, but they only go in the forward direction whereas the shockwaves from Sakura's punch come from beneath the ground so Kiba isn't nullifying Sakura's shockwaves whereas when Sakura punches the ground, a is created around her which could nullify Kiba's attack. If Kiba is too close then those spikes will impale him from underneath and they can go up in the air to about 100 m. All in all Kiba's attack will miss and he can't change his direction while in midair to counter Sakura's own counter to Kiba himself.

A Yin Seal Punch works depending on distance I suppose, and if the characters are IC or not. It's not happening in CQC though, Sakura's punch doesn't have 360 degree effect, and if they're up close then Kiba just needs to get out of the way of her punch.

The closer Kiba is, the easier it will be to dodge. In close quarters, with the All Fours enhancement, Kiba can quite simply evade Sakura and her attacks simply because he's much faster than her. Given that he's worked with her before, he knows of her strength and would absolutely avoid being caught by her punch.

I see absolutely no reason as to how she catches him, especially when he is equal to her in Taijutsu rating, and the fact that his speed is 1.5 points higher than hers:

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I'm going to offer an opinion on this, but since Sakura is 4 overall points higher I should explain why the areas she's clearly better than Kiba in; examples being Genjutsu, Hand Seals, and Intelligence, don't matter.

It's fairly obvious, but neither party has genjutsu usage feats, Hand Seals don't matter because neither utilize it much in their combat style, and intelligence is a factor hard to take in during versus threads, and I don't know how Sakura would utilize it against an opponent as fast as Kiba, so I won't drag on about it. Feel free to use it to your advantage though, maybe you understand it better than me.

Back to the point at hand though, and that's your strategy of Sakura beating Kiba. This largely goes down to distance, but at the beginning of the battle, neither Kiba nor Sakura will have resorted to their strongest forms, would they? A Yin Seal to begin the battle would definitely kill Kiba depending on distance, but this won't happen will it?

A basic punch however, doesn't offer much shockwave. Sakura destroyed the ground while Kakashi was in the epicenter of it, but he was completely unharmed.

Yet all of Kiba's opponents, none of them speedsters, kept up with his speed just fine.

Mind listing them? I know for a fact that Kiba's only 1v1 fight in the series was against Naruto, and Naruto merely withstood Kiba, he did not keep up with him. Not once, and this was specifically noted during the fight.

Obito dodged his attack, but that is Obito.

The Juubi clones were all in half before they could even think.

I'm sorry, but I don't know where you got the idea that any of Kiba's opponents were keeping up with his speed.

No one even talked about debris doing anything in this matchup. Kiba can fight blinded, true, but then he won't be able to distinguish the smoke from his own smoke bombs and Sakura's punch with sleep gas bombs.

Sleep bombs are the biggest problem I will concur. The point I was trying to make was that it is doubtful Sakura's smoke bombs will affect Cerberus, though I didn't explicitly say it so that's my fault.

The size of Cerberus is many many times the size of a person, so let us get a little visual representation:

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Whereas the cloud of smoke was only slightly above Sakura's head:

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So the cloud isn't likely to reach Cerberus, and even then, it won't be able to put Cerberus to sleep because of it's height and weight being much more than Kiba while in base. Furthermore, Sakura's usage of the bomb came in a scenario where Kiba was fighting with Sai, not paying attention to Sakura. Surely he will be paying attention to Sakura in this instance, would he not?

Kiba is maybe the size of an ant compared to a giant hill compared to the devastation Sakura causes.

This is true.

Okay, I don't need to give her any regen feats anyway. Although I don't understand why Lee gets Gai's feats but Sakura doesn't get Tsunade's.

I made a thread under the presumption that Lee had it, those were the conditions I set. I never said he actually had it. I wanted to see where Lee stood if we assumed he had the tech.

He only drilled through , and his pace was slown down since he didn't manage to take down the Juubi clones at the . Sakura took down even more Juubi clones thus showing her superiority in that regard. Mere rocks aren't slowing Kiba down but large walls of earth most definitely will.

I exaggerated, but it wasn't six.

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And how do you know he didn't take out the ones in the back? The scan you used to show him not taking out the ones in the back was the scan prior to him using Tail Chasers, so I don't no how you can say that when we clearly see the one in the very back in the above scan being taken out.

How is Kiba dodging while doing fang over fang? He isn't going to suddenly see the acid and change his direction while using his technique.

If Kiba's in Fang over Fang, will Sakura really have time to summon Katsuyu? She should be worried about more important things, like dodging Fang over Fang. I doubt Sakura would summon Katsuyu, but if she did she would only do it once Kiba entered Cerberus, and Kiba is definitely too fast too be caught by acid.​
 
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