What did Itachi do for Akatsuki?

[USSJ Future Trunks]

The only thing he did for Akarsuki is not letting Sasuke get close to Akatsuki

um no. he helped them get the jins, warned them about konohas fighters, got in konoha's way when they tried to save gaara, didnt betray them by giving up intel, didnt kill his partners like kakuzu did. so in reality kakuzu did more damage to them than itachi

 

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[BenjerminGaye]

He helped with the four tails but that's about it. Bare minimum.

What you should ask is what did itachi do for the village, and funny enough it's the same answer. Bare minimum.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Nothing, because he wasn't trying to help the akatsuki. He could probably have taken Jman with Kisame's help, but chose not too because it was a good excuse not to get the kyuubi.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

wrong. he aided akatsuki alot and didnt even try to slow them down or pass intel to konoha. sealing the bijuus would take ten times longer without itachis help

 

[BenjerminGaye]

wrong. he aided akatsuki alot and didnt even try to slow them down or pass intel to konoha. sealing the bijuus would take ten times longer without itachis help

No. It started taking extremely long when deidara,sasori,kakazu, and hidan died.

Itachi's reserves are sh¡t to begin with so yeah bare minimum.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Nothing, because he wasn't trying to help the akatsuki. He could probably have taken Jman with Kisame's help, but chose not too because it was a good excuse not to get the kyuubi.

Capturing the kyuubi at that point in time is useless since they have to be sealed in numerical order.

 

[Hàdes1]

Itachi did a lot for both akatsuki and konoha.
he helped akatsuki get tailed beasts and he helped konoha by getting them info about the akatsuki

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

he helped konoha by getting them info about the akatsuk

like?
for example when shikamaru fought kakuzu did he say "oh this is the guy tsunade sama informed us about therefore i can plan accordingly". no. asuma died. for no reason given itachi betrayed hsi entire city and spurned them out of things they needed to fukin know!

 

[Chie]

Irony.

Akatsuki were actively doing missions for a cheaper price than the other villages. Itachi is not exempt from these missions, especially if he's trying to maintain his cover.

Itachi doesn't kill needlessly, no. However, he does kill; he was even made captain of the Anbu... Konoha's team of elite assassins. Itachi does kill. Being a ninja, he has to.

That's what we know they did individually, but we're also told that they did missions which would require them to kill. They also killed Jinchuuriki, and would also kill anyone in their way.

In regards to your next paragraph, let me reiterate; Akatsuki was a group of ninjas which did work as ninjas for less than what other villages were charging. Onoki admitted that he used Akatsuki a lot in secret, and that they were cheap and got results.

Itachi was actually assigned to capture Gaara and tried to grab him during the Chuunin exams. However, when Itachi and Kisame got there, the exams ended early (because of Orochimaru's attack) and Gaara had already left. So, Itachi convinced Kisame to help him grab Naruto instead. If not for Jiraiya's arrival, Naruto would have been dragged back to Akatsuki by Kisame with nor arms or legs.
Also, Itachi broke Sasuke's arm and ribs, choked him, told him that he was weak and to kill Naruto to get stronger (MS), and then mindraped him into a drooling mess helplessly watching his family get murdered over and over again for what seemed like days.
Itachi did nothing to stop or hinder Akatsuki, and the war is going on right now with Obito/Madara having all the Bijuu in part thanks to Itachi's contributions.

Itachi did help Kisame capture Roushi. Notice Kisame said "you didn't fight him directly." Notice anything? If Itachi didn't help, then Kisame would had said "you didn't fight him." But, he didn't, he said "directly."

All the info Konoha had about Akatsuki came from Jiraiya, and even then it was 10 years after Itachi joined Akatsuki. Itachi did nothing to stop Akatsuki from getting Naruto, in fact Akatsuki had to save Naruto for last anyway as to not upset the balance.
If it was Itachi, it would had been really nice to tell everyone that the group was led by "Madara" (which was enough to get all the villages to work together) and that it's members included someone with the Rinnegan, and also who all of the other members were along with information about their abilities. Instead of everyone finding out the hard way, like Asuma and Jiraiya did.

And lastly, Itachi is NOT the reason Obito didn't attack Konoha; that was a sham deal. Itachi thought that the masked man was Madara whom wanted revenge against Konoha and made that deal under the pretense that Obito was Madara. HOWEVER, Obito did not give a shit about Konoha, he only cared about the Moon's Eye plan. Hell, even after Itachi's death, Obito still didn't give a shit about Konoha and kept working towards his endgame.
What would Itachi had done to stop Obito, anyway? Kill him? If Itachi were capable of doing that and saving Konoha and Sasuke from the very beginning, he would have.

You are in great denial about Itachi.

Your denial about Itachi is so astounding. Your hate blinds you too much lol.

Yes, the Akatsuki used to do that for villages. However, that was long before Obito took control and even longer before Itachi joined.

The Anbu are merely an organization that completes missions directly under the hokage. It never stated that they were an elite assassination team. However, obviously Itachi has killed people on missions, just as Kakashi and Naruto have on missions that Tsunade sent them on.

More fanfic in order to put down a character you hate, huh? Itachi was stated to be the one to capture Naruto. That was his only mission, and he purposely didn't complete it.

Once again, yes Onoki did state that. But that was years before Itachi joined.

No, he was assigned to capture Naruto. Deidara was the one assigned to capture Gaara and did later on in pt2. Itachi was just there to make sure that Danzo heard of his presence and didn't hurt Sasuke. He used Naruto as an excuse so the Akatsuki wouldn't suspect anything. The only reason Jiraiya didn't die back then is because Itachi wasn't for the Akatsuki and actually supported Konoha. Itachi is the reason that Konoha and Naruto were safe for 7 years.

Yes, Itachi did do that to Sasuke which in turn led him to grow even stronger and protected Konoha from Sasuke's hatred which was directed towards Itachi.

Hiruzen and the manga disagree with you on that. Because of Itachi, Obito didn't take over the world sooner.

No, Itachi didn't help. In the manga Kisame stated "You're lucky you didn't have to fight him yourself". Prior to the fight, Kisame asked for help but Itachi refused, we were even shown this in the manga. Itachi couldn't just kill Kisame and save Son Goku because Zetsu would alert the other Akatsuki and Itachi would be killed by them. He did a good thing by not blowing his cover and being a double spy, it was his best bet and it worked.

Hiruzen once again disagrees with you, considering that he stated that Itachi was a good double spy. He obviously shared some info w/ him prior to the hokage dying. However, after Hiruzen died there was no one left to share info with considering that he was the only one that knew the truth bar the elders. And the elders were not on good terms with Tsunade, so giving them info wouldn't have helped. By the way, Itachi joined Akatsuki when he was 14 and died at the age of 21. That's 7 years lol.

Obito flat out stated that Itachi is the only reason that he couldn't continue his plans for 7 years. Sorry, but you cannot deny manga facts, now can you? U_U

 

[Chie]

He helped with the four tails but that's about it. Bare minimum.

What you should ask is what did itachi do for the village, and funny enough it's the same answer. Bare minimum.

He actually didn't, he made Kisame capture Roshi by himself. He didn't do crap for Akatsuki.

As for the village, he did more than he needed to. He saved them from war when he was alive, stopped them from capturing Naruto, and was a double spy in Akatsuki to give intel to Hiruzen. Then he came back as an edo and saved the world from Kabuto and his Edo Tensei army. He did way too much for a side character.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Your denial about Itachi is so astounding. Your hate blinds you too much lol.

Yes, the Akatsuki used to do that for villages. However, that was long before Obito took control and even longer before Itachi joined.

The Anbu are merely an organization that completes missions directly under the hokage. It never stated that they were an elite assassination team. However, obviously Itachi has killed people on missions, just as Kakashi and Naruto have on missions that Tsunade sent them on.

More fanfic in order to put down a character you hate, huh? Itachi was stated to be the one to capture Naruto. That was his only mission, and he purposely didn't complete it.

Once again, yes Onoki did state that. But that was years before Itachi joined.

No, he was assigned to capture Naruto. Deidara was the one assigned to capture Gaara and did later on in pt2. Itachi was just there to make sure that Danzo heard of his presence and didn't hurt Sasuke. He used Naruto as an excuse so the Akatsuki wouldn't suspect anything. The only reason Jiraiya didn't die back then is because Itachi wasn't for the Akatsuki and actually supported Konoha. Itachi is the reason that Konoha and Naruto were safe for 7 years.

Yes, Itachi did do that to Sasuke which in turn led him to grow even stronger and protected Konoha from Sasuke's hatred which was directed towards Itachi.

Hiruzen and the manga disagree with you on that. Because of Itachi, Obito didn't take over the world sooner.

No, Itachi didn't help. In the manga Kisame stated "You're lucky you didn't have to fight him yourself". Prior to the fight, Kisame asked for help but Itachi refused, we were even shown this in the manga. Itachi couldn't just kill Kisame and save Son Goku because Zetsu would alert the other Akatsuki and Itachi would be killed by them. He did a good thing by not blowing his cover and being a double spy, it was his best bet and it worked.

Hiruzen once again disagrees with you, considering that he stated that Itachi was a good double spy. He obviously shared some info w/ him prior to the hokage dying. However, after Hiruzen died there was no one left to share info with considering that he was the only one that knew the truth bar the elders. And the elders were not on good terms with Tsunade, so giving them info wouldn't have helped. By the way, Itachi joined Akatsuki when he was 14 and died at the age of 21. That's 7 years lol.

Obito flat out stated that Itachi is the only reason that he couldn't continue his plans for 7 years. Sorry, but you cannot deny manga facts, now can you? U_U

You do know that anbu stands for assassination and tactical squad right?

And that obito was always in control of the akatsuki since yahiko died.

Obito has no reason to take sauce. That's not his goal.

And let's be honest. Itachi didn't give any info to the leaf on akatsuki bar "we wear black robes with read clouds"

 

[Chie]

You do know that anbu stands for assassination and tactical squad right?

And that obito was always in control of the akatsuki since yahiko died.

Obito has no reason to take sauce. That's not his goal.

And let's be honest. Itachi didn't give any info to the leaf on akatsuki bar "we wear black robes with read clouds"

No, sadly I had no idea. Oh well, they're all shinobi and therefore killers. Also, in the Kakashi Anbu fillers (yes, I know that fillers do not really count) they don't only go on assassination missions.

Yes, I do realize that Obito manipulated Nagato to agree with his version of peace and took over Akatsuki shortly after Yahiko died. However, I don't recall the Tsuchikage being very clear about at what point he utilized Akatsuki.

I never mentioned anything about Obito wanting to take Sasuke.

How would you even know? Hiruzen said that being a double spy was a part of his mission and that pretty much gives to reason that he gave Hiruzen some type of intel before the hokage died. However, I doubt he gave anyone intel after Hiruzen died, considering that there wasn't really anyone left to give intel to.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

He actually didn't, he made Kisame capture Roshi by himself. He didn't do crap for Akatsuki.

As for the village, he did more than he needed to. He saved them from war when he was alive, stopped them from capturing Naruto, and was a double spy in Akatsuki to give intel to Hiruzen. Then he came back as an edo and saved the world from Kabuto and his Edo Tensei army. He did way too much for a side character.

Not really. If it came down to it the leaf would annihilate the uchiha. The only person who was dragging his feet was hiruzen. Stopped who now? Jman would have bodied kisame.

He gave 0 absolute 0 Intel on akatsuki. Dudes had to introduce themselves. All info konoha knows about that group was gained through jman, kakashi, shikamaru and sakura.

And what he did as an edo not only wasn't necessary but changed nothing. All of the edo's bar maddy were sealed already and maddy didn't disappear even though itachi said he would.

We can speculate how events would have played out differently but it matters not.

 

[Chie]

Not really. If it came down to it the leaf would annihilate the uchiha. The only person who was dragging his feet was hiruzen. Stopped who now? Jman would have bodied kisame.

He gave 0 absolute 0 Intel on akatsuki. Dudes had to introduce themselves. All info konoha knows about that group was gained through jman, kakashi, shikamaru and sakura.

And what he did as an edo not only wasn't necessary but changed nothing. All of the edo's bar maddy were sealed already and maddy didn't disappear even though itachi said he would.

We can speculate how events would have played out differently but it matters not.

No, not exactly. I don't think that Jiraiya could handle both Kisame and Itachi, I doubt he could even handle either of them.

We don't know that. Hiruzen said he sent him to be a double spy, we don't know what he told Konoha, nor will we ever because it has lost all relevance to the series.

Itachi didn't even know who Madara really was at that point. You shouldn't blame a shinobi for not stopping someone he doesn't even know exists, just like we shouldn't blame Minato for not knowing that it was really Obito behind that mask all those years ago. Btw, a few edos were still free. Not many though.

You can deny what Kishimoto wrote, but it matters not. He wrote that Itachi was for Konoha, a hero for it, and benefitted it. Therefore he did. We don't need to know every little detail about everything he did at every moment of his life in order to give him credit, Kishimoto already did.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

No, sadly I had no idea. Oh well, they're all shinobi and therefore killers. Also, in the Kakashi Anbu fillers (yes, I know that fillers do not really count) they don't only go on assassination missions.

Yes, I do realize that Obito manipulated Nagato to agree with his version of peace and took over Akatsuki shortly after Yahiko died. However, I don't recall the Tsuchikage being very clear about at what point he utilized Akatsuki.

I never mentioned anything about Obito wanting to take Sasuke.

How would you even know? Hiruzen said that being a double spy was a part of his mission and that pretty much gives to reason that he gave Hiruzen some type of intel before the hokage died. However, I doubt he gave anyone intel after Hiruzen died, considering that there wasn't really anyone left to give intel to.

Tactical and assassination. It doesn't always have to be both just one or the other.

According to nagato the only things they did b4 yahiko died was guard/protect rain village. Hanzo felt threatened by their growing power and tried to off them since they were taking his job.

Misread on my part.

Hiruzen died years after he joined yet not even a name was known about these guys. Let alone their plans. It's a shame.

 

[johnny335704]

I remember Itachi doing 3 most important things for Akatsuki:

1. Defeated Deidara to make him join Akatsuki. Result: Deidara captured 1-Tail & 3-Tails (at-least).
2. Itachi & Kisame completed mission 4-tails Capture (however Kisame captured it alone).
3. Itachi helped in sealing of the bijuus in Gedo Mezo (equivalent to all other akatsuki membrs).

P.S. Minor help by Itachi to Akatsuki is - He sent his 30% chakra clone to stop Kakashi/Naruto/Chiyo from arriving at Gara's 1-Tail sealing location.

 

[Chie]

Tactical and assassination. It doesn't always have to be both just one or the other.

According to nagato the only things they did b4 yahiko died was guard/protect rain village. Hanzo felt threatened by their growing power and tried to off them since they were taking his job.

Misread on my part.

Hiruzen died years after he joined yet not even a name was known about these guys. Let alone their plans. It's a shame.

Well, I guess that he didn't give them any intel then. Now that I think about it, in the manga towards the end of pt1 it stated that they hadn't reassembled since the day that Oro left, which was the day that Itachi joined. They actually reassembled after Hiruzen died, so that would mean that Itachi was either in solitude entirely or just with Kisame. That would mean he would have limited attempts at gathering intel. It also doesn't help that the only person he could give intel to and make sure it benefitted was Hiruzen...but Hiruzen was dead at that point.

I know this is speculation, but maybe somehow Itachi passed on intel to Jiraiya? Kakashi stated what he knew about Akatsuki, then Jiraiya mentioned something similar about it. Then, Itachi immediately stated "Oh, so you're the one who informed Kakashi-san", but he said that when he didn't even know whether or not Kakashi and Jiraiya even spoke to each other. :/

 

[BenjerminGaye]

No, not exactly. I don't think that Jiraiya could handle both Kisame and Itachi, I doubt he could even handle either of them.

We don't know that. Hiruzen said he sent him to be a double spy, we don't know what he told Konoha, nor will we ever because it has lost all relevance to the series.

Itachi didn't even know who Madara really was at that point. You shouldn't blame a shinobi for not stopping someone he doesn't even know exists, just like we shouldn't blame Minato for not knowing that it was really Obito behind that mask all those years ago. Btw, a few edos were still free. Not many though.

You can deny what Kishimoto wrote, but it matters not. He wrote that Itachi was for Konoha, a hero for it, and benefitted it. Therefore he did. We don't need to know every little detail about everything he did at every moment of his life in order to give him credit, Kishimoto already did.

Whatevs.

We do know that. If he gave up info we'd know who was in akatsuki before they do anything their abilities etc. But nothing. He didn't even give info on oro.

I didn't blame him I said his actions didn't change the situation. That's not blaming. It's not contributing either.

I'm not denying what kishi wrote. He paints villains as heroes all the time based on current character prospective. Just saying.

 

[Chie]

I remember Itachi doing 3 most important things for Akatsuki:

1. Defeated Deidara to make him join Akatsuki. Result: Deidara captured 1-Tail & 3-Tails (at-least).
2. Itachi & Kisame completed mission 4-tails Capture (however Kisame captured it alone).
3. Itachi helped in sealing of the bijuus in Gedo Mezo (equivalent to all other akatsuki membrs).

P.S. Minor help by Itachi to Akatsuki is - He sent his 30% chakra clone to stop Kakashi/Naruto/Chiyo from arriving at Gara's 1-Tail sealing location.

Just to point this out, he was sent by Hiruzen to be a double spy and accepted that as his mission. He had to do some things in order to gain their trust and not blow his cover.

1. Kisame and Sasori were about to beat the crap out of Deidara anyway. This is kind of irrelevant, considering that regardless of whether Itachi was the one who did it or not, Deidara would still have to join.
2. Yeah. He didn't assist, but it's not as if he could kill Kisame. Zetsu is everywhere. Zetsu even had the capability to alert the other members that Deidara blew himself up and Sasuke was in the area...when Zetsu was not even anywhere near the fight.
3. Yeah, he had to do so in order to maintain his cover.

When he was chosen to go and stall, he literally said "Shit". He didn't want to go. At least Naruto and his crew were lucky that it was Itachi who was sent after them, he had no intention of really hurting them. Kisame nearly killed Gai's students. -_-