Tobirama and Hiruzen vs Muu and 2nd Mizukage

[Penguin]

Location is where Madara fought the Gokage
Distance is thirty meters
This is a young Hiruzen with edo feats

 

[Vega]

Interesting match-up.
I'll go with Tobirama and Hiruzen.
Tobirama's adept sensing abilities will help him and Hiruzen to quickly locate 2nd Mizukage so they won't fall for his genjutsu.
Muu can try to go invisible but Tobirama should be able to sense him.
Hiruzen already has intel on Jinton, and Tobirama's FTG means he won't get hit by it.

 

[Penguin]

But the 2nd mizukage cannot be sensed with the clam out.

 

[ARGUS]

Muu and Second Mizukage win,,,
clam genjutsuu plus invisible sneak jinton with large AOE,, can defeat these guys,,
hiruzen is almost non factor

 

[Gold Lightning]

Good match up, I don't know who wins but..

Can Tobirama sense Mu, I don't think he can. And it don't think Mizukage can be sensed while his clam summoning is creating the genjutsu, nor do I think the clam can be sensed.

Mu attacking from the skies while 2nd Mizukage uses genjutsu on the ground makes for a great pair though. And Joki Boy can help keep the Hokage from getting too close.

What are the conditions for ET?

 

[Misconception]

Im leaning towards Muu and Joki i hate calling him 2nd mizukage that's just to long... I believe both could solo Oonoki how ever Tobirama would be very tricky and hard to handle... This could go either way...

 

[Penguin]

Good match up, I don't know who wins but..

Can Tobirama sense Mu, I don't think he can. And it don't think Mizukage can be sensed while his clam summoning is creating the genjutsu, nor do I think the clam can be sensed.

Mu attacking from the skies while 2nd Mizukage uses genjutsu on the ground makes for a great pair though. And Joki Boy can help keep the Hokage from getting too close.

What are the conditions for ET?

No ET, Tobirama can sense neither if Mu nulls his chakra and 2nd Mizu has the clam out.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Tobirama could solo. His Sensor ability when he touches the ground is contact sensing - as it uses vibrations from the ground, I believe.

Mū and the Mizukage don't have many feats though.

 

[TobiramaWaterStyle]

Can't Hiruzen smell the giant clam and also Hiruzen has reacted to invisible attacks before.

 

[A v i]

Lawd Tobirama and Hiruzen wins this.It is over for team two once time limit of summoning jutsu is over.

 

[Penguin]

Any more replies?

 

[Benjamin King]

Team 2 mid diff.

Team 1 lacks a counter for the Mizukage's mirage, furthermore Muu can Jinton them from blind-spot, though it will work on Hiruzen. Tobirama will be overwhelm regardless.

 

[AGoodBoy]

I think team 2's got this. Muu's being hidden by his invisibility and mist. Seeing as the manga's confirmed that sensors can't find muu nor trollkage, tobirama's sensing feats are useless while muu's sensing feats allow him to perfectly find tobirama and hiruzen, even if he can't find his own team mate. in fact, the only way to find these two(when their jutsu's are active) is with some form of contact sensing. Neither tobirama, nor hiruzen have contact sensing as far as we know.

What's worse is that, if trollkage is hit, he bursts into water and is completely unaffected by the blow. Tobirama's kenjutsu, suiton and hiruzen's entire arsenal, bar raiton techs, are all useless against trollkage. While, against muu, if he's hit, he can instantly use fission to save at least half of himself. The fission is so fast that even someone who knows him didn't notice that he performed the fission, nor did naruto even sense that it happened.

Jokey boy, Jinton, mirage, hydrification, fission, flight and sensing/counter sensing abilities make these two a deadly two man team. Good thing they only ever fought against each other in the manga...

 

[Beans2]

Hokages take this mid-high doff

Tobirama can sense the clam by sending vibrations through the ground, then destroys it with his water cannon. Mu's jinton is evaded via FTG (Tobirama would have to stay near Hiruzen though so they can teleport together, or else Horuzen gets vaporized.) Bubbles and water guns are dodged with FTG. Joki boy is no issue, since Tobi could cut through it with his water cannon, or Hiruzen can evaporate or electrocute it with katon/raiton. Not sure if Tobirama can sense Mu, but if they can't they simply outlast him.