Theory! Reason why the Juubi was sealed into halves and secret purpose!
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Thanks for the feedback.
My overall point to this would be that they sealed only the majority of a 50% Juubi stemming from Hagoromo.
In regards to Obito, the Juubi he sealed within himself only had mere remnants of Kurama's chakra from the Gold & Silver brothers and a tentacle from Gyuko, making it probably 77% of the Hagoromo's Juubi; and total 38% out of both Juubis.
Madara lacked half of Kurama, meaning he probably had around 94% but only of Hagoromo's Juubi. Meaning he probably had about 1/2 of both Juubis.
The shinju can indeed exist out of just Hagoromo's portion, for it is merely the Juubi entering its original/true form.
It is the same, Naruto can use Bijuu Modo out of a 50% Kurama, and Kin/Gin can still use Version 2 Jinchuuriki out of the Kurama flesh they ate. The portion does not entirely matter for the Shinju to exist.
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I agree on all points however do you have any idea what happened to the other half? I think the brother sealed it into his body before he died just like what minato did before his death...
Perhaps I should have pointed out that my initial statement regarding the percentage of the Jubi absorbed by both Madara and Obito was founded on the reasoning in my latter statement. I am still doubtful of the bold however. The shinju would represent the
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. All preceding portions of it's composition, whether physical, ethereal or entirely Chakra based would have to unite to birth the Shinju as the individual Biju's chakra being within the Mazou are a prerequisite for the Jubi to surface. The Jubi is only a physical incarnation of the Shinju. You would have noticed that although Jinchuriki Madara has a greater portion of Biju chakra when compare to Obito and although the Biju were completely separated from Mazou: It brought about no changes in the God Tree itself. It is independent to the Jubi because it is already complete, save it's chakra which Mankind now possesses.
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Yes, the Shinju would represent the union of its constituents, but it is no different than the Juubi, in fact it is merely the final form of it
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. As you said yourself, the Juubi itself is just the physical incarnation of the Shinju. They both can be brought back with only portions of each Bijuu chakra (in addition to the Mazou) instead of the totality of all the complete Bijuus.
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The Shinju works the same way, Obito was able to sprout the God Tree despite having just a tentacle from Gyuki and chakra remnants from Kurama. The Shinju would still form as Madara noted, but only the time it would take to bloom would differ.
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I disagree. How was Kushina able to comoletely seal the Kyuubi into her, then? Minato said it was impossible for HIM.
But I do think that Hagoromo's brother was the Uzumaki ancestor. Could we say that it was a combination of Hagoromo and his brother who developed the sealing technique for Jinchuuriki?
And sealing half and half would imply that the Hago bros are weaker than Madara or Obito, who had greater portions of the Juubi inside them. I doubt that's the case. How would Hagoromo have been able to use Creation of all Things? Why aren't there two Juubis running around?
I like the premise here but there would be too many discrepanicies.
But I do think that Hagoromo's brother was the Uzumaki ancestor. Could we say that it was a combination of Hagoromo and his brother who developed the sealing technique for Jinchuuriki?
And sealing half and half would imply that the Hago bros are weaker than Madara or Obito, who had greater portions of the Juubi inside them. I doubt that's the case. How would Hagoromo have been able to use Creation of all Things? Why aren't there two Juubis running around?
I like the premise here but there would be too many discrepanicies.
Minato stated it was impossible to seal away the entire Kyuubi via the Reaper Death Seal, Kushina "sealed" Kurama within her as a jinchuuriki. They're two different things.
I also believe Hagoromo and his brother were in coalition to make the sealing techniques.
As I stated with while conversing with Waltz; each brother sealed 50% of the Juubi within themselves.
If anything, Obito and Madara would be weaker then each brother as they are Jinchuuriki's from a portion of Hagoromo's half. (Go back and read those if you want the percentages)
Hagoromo would still be able to use Creation of All things. Madara was able to manifest his will while near his death, Hagoromo was beyond a human once he became the Juubi's jinchuuriki. In fact Darui was skeptical until Obito assured that he was capable of doing amazing things once he became the Jinchuuriki (Chibaku Tensei the size of the moon for example) [left side of this image is the important part]
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More than that, Obito himself stated he cannot be judged by the likes of Tobirama's perception once ascending as a jinchuuriki.
There aren't 2 juubis running around because as I stated in my Original Post; the other was kept secret and hidden away.
I'm glad you liked the premise, and hey can't please everybody
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This is most probably the case. Seeing that Kaguya is most probably the Reaper of Shiki Fūjin I would even go as far as to say that Hagoromo's brother was the Fūinjutsu Master of the two.
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i agree with this, except one thing. minato wasn't talking about sealing the kyuubi inside of one person, rather sealing it away in the RDS was impossible. so corralating that with why hogoromo and his brother couldn't seal all the juubi into one person is wrong. it was most likely done so no one person could wield the power by itself. it is also probable that the other half will come into play soon.
