reincarnation only allowed to konoha?

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Hashirama/Naruto and Madara/Sasuke are the only reincarnations from Konoha. I don't see why people have do bring in Hurizen, Minato, Itachi...etc, into the equation. There were still a lot of generations after Indra/Ashura's time and before Hashi and Madara's time. So, I think the sage was talking about those times. Hurizen, Minato and Itachi has nothing to do with the reincarnations since they were still alive when Naruto and Sasuke were born.

EDIT: Reincarnation works like this:
The person dies and then he/she is reborn into a newborn baby. You can't die and then reincarnate into someone that was alive before your death.
 
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Their(Ashura and Indra) descendants are the senju and uchiha and they are found in konoha,so yes.
hoe do we knw there are the only once?

The Sage only mentioned Naruto as Ashura's reincarnation, not Hashi then Minato(which doesn't even make sense to me) then naruto. He only said naruto.

Since the senju/Uzumaki are his descendants.....why not reincarnate in them. It is not limited to Kohnoha but to the Senju/Uzumaki clans.

NB. I also don't think itachi was Indra's reincarnate.
agree.thanks for reading

Its just something that happened by chance that hashirama and madara created konoha putting the key future reincarnations there
how could that be?
 

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Both Uchihas and uzumakis had become a part of Konoha.
 

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Ashura looks just like Hashirama and the other Indra similar to Madara.
I think it's getting beyond ridiculous but whatever.
iirc Konoha was the place where the village system was created by Hashirama so they do seem to have some special status.
 

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Its just something that happened by chance that hashirama and madara created konoha putting the key future reincarnations there
 

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The reincarnations are clearly meant to be within the lineage of Senju and Uchiha, which also includes the Uzumaki. Uchiha, Senju and relevant Uzumaki all all hail from Konoha
so you think there is many happend in past too?

The reincarnation only follows the "will of the fire" thing.
reincarnation only follow the spirit of previous birth.

Hashirama/Naruto and Madara/Sasuke are the only reincarnations from Konoha. I don't see why people have do bring in Hurizen, Minato, Itachi...etc, into the equation. There were still a lot of generations after Indra/Ashura's time and before Hashi and Madara's time. So, I think the sage was talking about those times. Hurizen, Minato and Itachi has nothing to do with the reincarnations since they were still alive when Naruto and Sasuke were born.

agree for naruto sasuke may b madara too. way hasi?
 

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Both Uchihas and uzumakis had become a part of Konoha.
wt abt senju? and u think that much reincarnation coz of that?

Ashura looks just like Hashirama and the other Indra similar to Madara.
I think it's getting beyond ridiculous but whatever.
iirc Konoha was the place where the village system was created by Hashirama so they do seem to have some special status.
ashura similar to hashi how? yes its already ridiculous.

Its just something that happened by chance that hashirama and madara created konoha putting the key future reincarnations there
how they did that?
 

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agree for naruto sasuke may b madara too. way hasi?

Because it's clear that Ashura and Indra are reincarnated in the same generation. Madara's rival was Hashirama and he didn't want to cooperate with Hashirama and tried to destroy everything Hashirama stood for, while Hashirama made bonds and brought people together like Ashura. Even though they aren't the same powerwise, Hahsirama and Ashura are the same in ideals and personality. It's obvious that Hashirama and Naruto are similar and Madara and Sasuke are similar even if they lived differently or have a slight difference in personality, even though it isn't that big of a difference. Also, Hashirama looks like Ashura and Indra looks like Madara, it should be obvious.

Also, I think people are mistaken if they think that Ashura's reincarnation should be the same as him powerwise or be the same as how he was and totally ignore the potential of the one being reincarnated into. Remember that Ashura didn't inherit his father's good genes and had to work hard to awaken his power, but Hashirama has very good genes. The man's cells are being used as steroids, so he and Ashura wouldn't have the same potential. Naruto is the same as Ashura because he wasn't blessed with good genes either. He also had to work hard to become that powerful.
 
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Because it's clear that Ashura and Indra are reincarnated in the same generation. Madara's rival was Hashirama and he didn't want to cooperate with Hashirama and tried to destroy everything Hashirama stood for, while Hashirama made bonds and brought people together like Ashura. Even though they aren't the same powerwise, Hahsirama and Ashura are the same in ideals and personality. It's obvious that Hahsirama and Naruto are similar and Madara and Sasuke are similar even if they lived differently or have a slightly different in personality, even though it isn't that big of a difference. Also, Hashirama looks like Ashura and Indra looks like Madara, it should be obvious.

hashi was never like naruto.he was strong then madara even when they was kids age.look at there childhood hashi was step ahead than madara even throwing rocks. hashi was never want to compleate with madara coz he alredy better than him everytime. like to peace not make hashi as ashura.many ppl wnt peace.

then look again naruto and sasuke.naruto become this much strong coz he wnted to compleate with sasuke.and there are always act like brothers as i said in ma post.
 

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hashi was never like naruto.he was strong then madara even when they was kids age.look at there childhood hashi was step ahead than madara even throwing rocks. hashi was never want to compleate with madara coz he alredy better than him everytime. like to peace not make hashi as ashura.many ppl wnt peace.

then look again naruto and sasuke.naruto become this much strong coz he wnted to compleate with sasuke.and there are always act like brothers as i said in ma post.

Reread my post, I edited it. Who says that the reincarnations should be the same as the reincarnated? The sage said that Naruto reminded him of Ashura because he too wasn't blessed with good genes and had to work hard and cooperate with people to become strong. He didn't say that all the reincarnations are the same as Ashura and Naruto.
 

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Reread my post, I edited it. Who says that the reincarnations should be the same as the reincarnated? The sage said that Naruto reminded him of Ashura because he too wasn't blessed with good genes and had to work hard and cooperate with people to become strong. He didn't say that all the reincarnations are the same as Ashura and Naruto.

thats the meaning of reincarnation.same quality's as previous birth.if not how its going to be reincarnation? then its just a another birth. its there previous soul coming to new body in new name and new time.
 

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thats the meaning of reincarnation.same quality's as previous birth.if not how its going to be reincarnation? then its just a another birth. its there previous soul coming to new body in new name and new time.

But it's not the soul, it's the chakra. If you have watched the Avatar: last airbender and legend of Korra, you should know that their potential is way different, even though they are reincarnations of the same person. Reincarnation doesn't mean same quality as previous birth, in buddishm/hinduism, people can even be reincarnated into animals or rocks. That doesn't mean that animal or rock holds the same quality as the one who was reincarnated.

I think that Ashura and Indra's wills were being passed down, that's why Madara and Sasuke never could get along with Hashirama and Naruto. Hashirama did want to end the wars, that's why he wanted Madara to help him build Konoha, but Madara denied everything Hashirama stood for after Hashirama was made Hokage instead of him (the same as Indra fighting Ashura because he was made the sage's successor).

And now the same thing is happening with Naruto and Sasuke.
 

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But it's not the soul, it's the chakra. If you have watched the Avatar: last airbender and legend of Korra, you should know that their potential is way different, even though they are reincarnations of the same person. Reincarnation doesn't mean same quality as previous birth, in buddishm/hinduism, people can even be reincarnated into animals or rocks. That doesn't mean that animal or rock holds the same quality as the one who was reincarnated.

I think that Ashura and Indra's wills were being passed down, that's why Madara and Sasuke never could get along with Hashirama and Naruto. Hashirama did want to end the wars, that's why he wanted Madara to help him build Konoha, but Madara denied everything Hashirama stood for after Hashirama was made Hokage instead of him (the same as Indra fighting Ashura because he was made the sage's successor).

And now the same thing is happening with Naruto and Sasuke.

kishi showing us Buddhist principle.thats simply rebirth. in Buddhism ppl can reincarnated to animals thats true bt not rocks.even for animals habits goes as same.
in Hinduism it can be rock bt they believe someones spirit/soul live in that rock.not reincarnated to rock.

did naruto had something like ashura's chakra? no he only had kyuubi chakra. its not abt chakra brother its abt spirit/soul.

im not saying hashi completely different than ashura its just he didnt show main features as ashura.
sage clearly show the common things about ashura and naruto. so we cant say there is another one with different character.
 

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Mianto, Hiruzen, Obito and Itachi were never reincarnations. If they were, i wouldn't be an Obito fanboy.
 
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