[Theory] Reaper Death Seal - An application of Ninshuu?

Mr Hiru

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Last chapters revealed interesting things about the knowledge created by Hagoromo Ootsutsuki.

He created Ninshuu, the manipulation of Spiritual Energy to enstablish communication links.

...if Ninjutsu didn't exist before the creation of Ninshuu, and Ashura/Indra were using Ninjutsu (I suppose that they used it in a primitive form), how is that RDS was created?

It is very clear that Kaguya Ootsutsuki has some relationship with the priestess of the RDS... it's her, or some avatar of her psyche.

Chapter 670 already told that even after the war between Ashura/Indra ended with their bodies destroyed, their spirits were wandering out there. I think the same thing happened with Kaguya, and she became the RDS (I guess Sir Derp Obito has the credit for this, he was very accurate when explaining the concepts behind the Hannya Mask).

Based on this opened window, I feel like we could predict the mechanics behind the RDS technique, which I think is not ninjutsu, but Ninshuu.

RDS doesn't use chakra per se, it uses "spiritual energy". Minato could use this powerful technique when he did not have chakra left (he was almost empty), and he wanted to save Konohagakure and Naruto.

But, if he used his little reserve of chakra to create the seal for the Kyuubi inside Naruto, where did he get enough spiritual energy to seal the other half?

RDS sacrifices the user "soul" to trap the target's soul. I feel like Minato used RDS using his own soul instead of his mind's spiritual energy to trap the Yin half of Kurama (which is mostly spiritual energy).

But, as this kind of technique doesn't need chakra molding (mixing spiritual and physical energy to create chakra), this technique should be in the category of Ninshuu.

Hiruzen was under the same situation when he fought Orochimaru. The years were costing him chakra reserves, and henceforth he decided to use this technique to take Orochimaru with him. How could this technique be so powerful...? It was his own spirit.

Conclusion: Reaper Death Seal is a Ninshuu application.

:) if you need proof backing the statements I could include them as you ask for them.

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maybe Kaguya's soul was cursed so. after death, she became the Death Reaper...:dunno:
 

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not spirit, THEIR CHAKRAS! get it right people, they don't have souls, it's their chakras,
 

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not spirit, THEIR CHAKRAS! get it right people, they don't have souls, it's their chakras,

You need to do some research.

Chakra = Spiritual + Physical Energy, mixed.

No spirit = No chakra.
 

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Sounds good to me. Perfect actually. Nice Theory! :)

UPDATE : Thanks for the rep! :D
 
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You need to do some research.

Chakra = Spiritual + Physical Energy, mixed.

No spirit = No chakra.

uh huh.. bijus don't have souls/spirit either, and they can perform moves that involve chakra,

spiritual energy = mental energies, not spirit

spirit and spiritual energies is different in naruto
 
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uh huh.. bijus don't have souls/spirit either, and they can perform moves that involve chakra,

spiritual energy = mental energies, not spirit

spirit and spiritual energies is different in naruto

bs, the guy is right RDS must be a ninshuu technique.
obv there are those that take your life like the one that Chiyo used on Gaara but RDS is completely different(it takes your soul and ties it in Reaper's stomach forever if there's no one who knows how to let it free)than any self-sacrifice technique that have been used to revive the dead ones in NV.
 
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Sounds good to me. Perfect actually. Nice Theory! :)

UPDATE : Thanks for the rep! :D

Thanks for the support ;)

uh huh.. bijus don't have souls/spirit either, and they can perform moves that involve chakra,

spiritual energy = mental energies, not spirit

spirit and spiritual energies is different in naruto

Disagreed. Read chapter 17 and chapter 90. There is all you need to know about Spiritual Energy. That energy is tightly tied to the concepts of Mind/Heart/Soul (which in japanese are basically the same concept).

bs, the guy is right RDS must be a ninshuu technique.
obv there are those that take your life like the one that Chiyo used on Gaara but RDS is completely different(it takes your soul and ties it in Reaper's stomach forever if there's no one who knows how to let it free)than any self-sacrifice technique that have been used to revive the dead ones in NV.

Agreed. Actually, you have a good point, there is a high probability that the moves involving the use of Souls are based on Ninshuu, for instance the Yamanaka's Clan jutsus, Dan's Jutsus (Tsunade's boyfriend), and even Life transfer jutsus.
 
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