Recent Chapter makes Hashirama more powerful than Hagoromo

[xKiD SPiiD3rMaN]

Seems Plausible



Edos have infinite chakra but it doesn't give chakra boost. Hashirama was never put of chakra so your point isn't valid in this case

Madara's interpretation > Tobirama's interpretation

Manga did suggest it, otherwise I wouldn't have made this thread.

I was almost praying that you would respond this way...

The point is not only that he had an infinitely regenerating chakra pool, but also that for the most part Edo's are immortal, and Hashirama never dealt with the juubi in a way that would put him in any kind of danger, he didn't even face it alone...

I love how you said Madara's interpretation was better than Tobirama's lol because it just shows that you will say anything to prove your point.

How is it possible that Madara can know how close to full power Tobirama and the rest of the Edo Kages are when

1) Tobirama is the creator of the freaking technique, and Im pretty sure he knows his own power, better than Madara knows it.
2) Madara, even though he was revived by Edo Tensei, actually came back stronger than his Prime.
3) It was only after Madara was souped up on Rinnegan, Mokuton, and SM chakra roids did he mention anything about a difference in power. Obviously it would be a lot clearer to see that with all of his power ups, the difference in abilities between Madara and Tobirama would be exposed.

and please show me, where exactly it's suggested... because I read the thread and it just seems like you're grasping at straws.

 

[King Of Pop]

Stupid thread. The sage nd his bro battled d full 100 percent juubi which makes the current 50 percent juubi( we knw dis becos the sage said he and his bro sealed parts of the full juubi bt we can estimate its perhaps 50percent) luk lyk a total joke. Luk at what the current incomplete juubi has done, the destructive tbbs and the power obito showed. Now imagine the full complete version then u knw that what the sage and his bro accomplished is leagues above what hashirama did. Also the current juubi doesn't even hav the full 9 tails so its much weaker.

Hashirama is not stronger than the sage, that's stupid.

 

[Ken Masters]

So Madara knows more about Tobirama's power than Tobirama himself?

As his opponent sure. Because Tobirama himself didn't know about his edo level seeing how this surprised him

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Madara leveled up a lot compared to his last confrontation with the brothers. When they remained at a standstil in power, he improved. It's for that reason they seemed weaker, not because they were actually weaker, but because he was stronger. As for the thread, that was a good joke. I admit lol

The above post goes to you as well. so much for being a joke

I was almost praying that you would respond this way...

The point is not only that he had an infinitely regenerating chakra pool, but also that for the most part Edo's are immortal, and Hashirama never dealt with the juubi in a way that would put him in any kind of danger, he didn't even face it alone...

I love how you said Madara's interpretation was better than Tobirama's lol because it just shows that you will say anything to prove your point.

How is it possible that Madara can know how close to full power Tobirama and the rest of the Edo Kages are when

1) Tobirama is the creator of the freaking technique, and Im pretty sure he knows his own power, better than Madara knows it.
2) Madara, even though he was revived by Edo Tensei, actually came back stronger than his Prime.
3) It was only after Madara was souped up on Rinnegan, Mokuton, and SM chakra roids did he mention anything about a difference in power. Obviously it would be a lot clearer to see that with all of his power ups, the difference in abilities between Madara and Tobirama would be exposed.

and please show me, where exactly it's suggested... because I read the thread and it just seems like you're grasping at straws.

Again some manga pages would be nice, otherwise the post holds nothing

Stupid thread. The sage nd his bro battled d full 100 percent juubi which makes the current 50 percent juubi( we knw dis becos the sage said he and his bro sealed parts of the full juubi bt we can estimate its perhaps 50percent) luk lyk a total joke. Luk at what the current incomplete juubi has done, the destructive tbbs and the power obito showed. Now imagine the full complete version then u knw that what the sage and his bro accomplished is leagues above what hashirama did. Also the current juubi doesn't even hav the full 9 tails so its much weaker.

Hashirama is not stronger than the sage, that's stupid.

This is a big fail.

100% Juubi needed Sage and His Brother however 50% Juubi was soloed by Hashirama himself who wasn't at full power! This automatically puts Hashirama higher than Hagoromo

 

[xKiD SPiiD3rMaN]

As his opponent sure. Because Tobirama himself didn't know about his edo level seeing how this surprised him

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The above post goes to you as well. so much for being a joke



Again some manga pages would be nice, otherwise the post holds nothing



This is a big fail.

100% Juubi needed Sage and His Brother however 50% Juubi was soloed by Hashirama himself who wasn't at full power! This automatically puts Hashirama higher than Hagoromo

Nice. Holds absolutely nothing.

 

[Atache]

So6p is a God. Hashriama is Jesus.

 

[AlastorNazura17]

Thanks for this dumb thread.

Rikudou > Hashirama neg diff.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Really? So Hashirama has a counter to a planetary devastation that forged the moon which is the size of a continents,? Nope, he doesn't have a counter and would be beaten..... badly.

 

[Ken Masters]

Nice. Holds absolutely nothing.

Manga = Nothing? Nice, very nice.

So6p is a God. Hashriama is Jesus.

God after being Jin, otherwise Hashirama > Hagoromo

Thanks for this dumb thread.

Rikudou > Hashirama neg diff.

Read before posting.

Really? So Hashirama has a counter to a planetary devastation that forged the moon which is the size of a continents,? Nope, he doesn't have a counter and would be beaten..... badly.

That happened after he became the Jin, I was talking about non-jin Hagoromo

 

[Stark]

Not even gonna read this is ridiculous

 

[End of Days]

Your whole argument is hashirama>hagoromo because hashirama pinned down the juubi, seems you have missed the page where the three other hokages trap the juubi so that it cannot escape from the gates

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only after was he trapped inside the barrier and had no where to escape did he get caught with the gates

So hashirama is weaker than hagoromo since he needed the help of three people as compared to only one person in case of hagoromo?

and while we are it hagoromo created a moon even after the extraction of the juubi when one is reduced to an extremely weak state

 

[Bogard]

The above post goes to you as well. so much for being a joke

Well if you really believe so, then so be it. You're a lost case in this case

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Manga = Nothing? Nice, very nice.



God after being Jin, otherwise Hashirama > Hagoromo



Read before posting.



That happened after he became the Jin, I was talking about non-jin Hagoromo

He split the chakra, and then used planetary devastation to seal away its corpse. In other words, it was 100% without juubi aid. Hagoromo is stronger than Hashirama even without the juubi. Let's not forget his tools either. All Hagoromo has to do is "Hey, Hashirama." Hashirama"yes?" Then gets absorbed into a jar.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Well it's hard to increase IQ if it's less than 50



That happened after he became the Jinchuriki. This means you posted without reading

Sage pulled juubi out, then divided it up, while on death bed. He was even weaker than the time he fought juubi

 

[maniaoqan]

So far we didn't see full powered Juubi so stop making assumptions.

 

[Kurama999]

Hagoromo and his brother tame the Juubi

 

[Kurama999]

Hagoromo and brother tame the Juubi

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Manga = Nothing? Nice, very nice.


God after being Jin, otherwise Hashirama > Hagoromo



Read before posting.



That happened after he became the Jin, I was talking about non-jin Hagoromo

Where is the proof that he got Rinnegan after becoming the jin

 

[Ken Masters]

Sage pulled juubi out, then divided it up, while on death bed. He was even weaker than the time he fought juubi

doesn't change anything.

So far we didn't see full powered Juubi so stop making assumptions.

it's logical deduction and not an assumption.

Hagoromo and his brother tame the Juubi

Yeah

Where is the proof that he got Rinnegan after becoming the jin

who cares about the Rinnegan?

 

[VolatileSoul]

Indra and Ashura are 100% featless, and have the full power of their respective bloodlines, so there is merit in claiming VOTE Hashi and Madara are stronger. We also don't know what happened in the fight with the Juubi, so we can't judge in that aspect either. We do know that while Hagoromo only had his brother, Hashi needed the assistance of 3 other top tiers just to trap it in a barrier, could only restrain it, and became so weakened by doing so that he couldn't even take part in the actual fight against the Juubi. He could barely make any clones, and they were fodder anyway. He didn't even have a way to seal Bijuu. Not to mention he should technically have an advantage over Hagoromo since he had the powers of the Half of Rikudo's bloodline, after he became the Juubi Jin, while Hagoromo had yet to reach his Rikudo status.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Looks to me as Ashura was having mokuton as well and seemingly bijuus or their chakra.

Indra has high chance of having SM on top of MS-EMS, trained by so6p and regarded as excellent by him.

Honestly i would bet on brothers.

Hagoromo and his bro seemed to posses onmyoudon (staffs) b4 sealing juubi which puts them above hashirama.