Kaguya's 2nd Son (I was right last theory!) has ALREADY been mentioned by the name...

Joined
Mar 11, 2014
Messages
251
Reaction score
33
(Thought I posted this earlier, but I guess it didn't work)

So I first joined this forum because I wanted to discuss a theory I had about Kaguya having a 2nd child, or another Original Gangsta chakra user from that time where the Uzumaki bloodline could be traced to:



Anyway obviously I hit it (partially at least). She did have a second child like I predicted, but unlike I predicted it wasn't a daughter, it was a second son. This alters my theory a bit, even though the rest fits. I still think it's likely a couple major bloodlines, including Uzumaki will trace back to him. I also think it's likely that, like the Uzumaki's he can distribute chakra to others freely, this would explain why so much of the world can use chakra rather than just those related directly to the Uchiha/Senju/Outsutsuki bloodline.

BUT I no longer think he was a quiet hidden player in the background just helping people get chakra. I think he has to be the main antagonist that was stricken from history for evil deeds. His brother wouldn't even mention his name, but I think I know it. I think this is the evil bastard that wants to ruin the world.

After Hashirama defeated Madara he sensed a presence up on the cliff. I think it was related to Hagaromo's brother. I think he revived Madara, and planted the seeds of this plan in his head. I think he helped Madara to unlock the rinnegan, and transplant it into one of HIS descendants in Nagato as part of a greater plan that even Madara did not understand.

I think Madara's dream for a better world in his own way isn't with evil intention, but I think Hagaromo's brother does have evil intentions for an eternal hell, or in some way to regain his full power.

I think Hagaromo and his mother had to join forces to stop his brother from destroying the world. Perhaps she became the Reaper Death Seal because she could not kill her own child but needed to help Hagaromo seal away at least some of his power and weaken him. Maybe this is why he's been in the background so long, and had to use Madara and others to plan his rise back to power.


I also had a second theory when I joined here:



But I'm now thinking these two theories are more connected. I think there is a final villain and he is Hagaromo's brother, and his name is JASHIN. Jashin would be the creator of Ninjutsu and Genjutsu since his brother was the creator of Ninshuu.


Jashin would have immortality, and power beyond even that of the Hermit. Along with his immortality and UNMATCHED chakra (Uzumaki Ancestor trait!) he would also have the ability to give chakra to others. As an evil bastard he would demand money, power, worship and other things in exchange for giving chakra to people. Most likely he would demand to be worshipped as a god after his heart grew darker and his ego out of control. His blood lust would drive him to demand his followers to kill people and spread word of his power. He could give you chakra, the powers of a demi-god in exchange for something valuable and your loyalty. Why else would anyone follow a religion that makes you kill like a psycho unless it got you amazing abilities like chakra, and immortality from the most powerful ninja to ever have existed, and the founder of Ninjutsu!

His mother and brother could not stand by while he destroyed the world this way. They managed to seal away much of his destructive power, but he is immortal by now and can not be killed. With his ability he could also pass that immortality on to his most loyal followers with the highest potential... even an idiot like Hidan.

You must be registered for see images



Several characters that have prolonged their life beyond natural outside of edo tensai/rinne tensai/etc. look at Orochimaru, Kakuza, and obviously Madara. But most interesting by far case is overshadowed by his otherwise weak character, Hidan. How did Hidan become immortal and who is this god he worships? Obviously this god have him real tangible power and made him completely immortal, how could something that powerful have such a small part in the plot?

My theory is that Hidan's god, Jashin, is actually the brother of Hagaromo, the one who saved madara, and the true villain to be revealed!

If this is the case you can expect a true, bloodthirsty, twisted, narcissistic, epic villain here. Think of the rituals he forces Hidan to perform (which Hidan said he hated doing but HAD to). It was an ancient religion, perhaps this is how people got chakra and why so many ninja clans exist today even though the religion is pretty much forgotten by all except Hidan.


Being immortal and ever patient he could have put things into motion using madara as a pawn.

Not trying to rant but I find the idea of the Kaguya's second son coming into the story exciting and this would make sense to me. Otherwise Jashin and Hidan seem to be a big hole with big questions left unanswered. Also this final battle is a little too predictable without a curveball like this.

Typed this on my phone. I apologize in advance for possible autocorrects and repeats I couldn't see. /rant]
 
Last edited:

Tobi98

Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
7,146
Reaction score
514
Maybe but he seemed to have the same powers as Rikudou
 

Reflection

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Jan 16, 2013
Messages
2,220
Reaction score
271
Yes, Lord Jashin is stronger than Kaguya. He planted the juubi.
LOL, fool Lord Jashin is no mortal. He is the god of eternal gardening and the planter of the juubi.
 
Last edited:

Rohan

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
24,320
Reaction score
4,102
I actually read the whole theory and seriously liked it. + repped for making such a theory. :)
 

brownbear

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Dec 3, 2012
Messages
925
Reaction score
76
Legit theory right cher.

Quality thread.

+ rep
 

The Rower

Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
487
Reaction score
71
Very Nice Theory! + Rep

I always wondered Who or what Jashin is. This theory brings some good food for thoughts =D
 
Joined
Mar 11, 2014
Messages
251
Reaction score
33
Yes, Lord Jashin is stronger than Kaguya. He planted the juubi.
LOL, fool Lord Jashin is no mortal. He is the god of eternal gardening and the planter of the juubi.

No dumbass, Hagoromo OBVIOUSLY time travelled and planted the Juubi.
 
Last edited:

BlackKunai

Member
Joined
Mar 12, 2014
Messages
35
Reaction score
1
Awesome theory, nice read and I totally support you on this one!
 

Mitarashi

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
May 13, 2013
Messages
4,878
Reaction score
334
Stop saying "Second son"
You don't know who was born first. Say his name.
 

cajin

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
May 31, 2013
Messages
1,208
Reaction score
77
There is always a possibility that Hidan lied about Jashin. :D

But your theory is awesome, I woould like to see it happen. Rep and thanks from me.
 

Skull Knight

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jun 6, 2013
Messages
4,442
Reaction score
272
Jashin is sage's bro.No doubt about that.
He is going to become the final villain of the series.
 

Skull Knight

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jun 6, 2013
Messages
4,442
Reaction score
272
Jashin is sage's bro.No doubt about that.
He is going to become the final villain of the series.
 
Joined
Mar 11, 2014
Messages
251
Reaction score
33
There is always a possibility that Hidan lied about Jashin. :D

But your theory is awesome, I woould like to see it happen. Rep and thanks from me.

Well then how the hell can he be alive after being blown to bits?? He has abilities like no other ninja alive, and he isn't exactly a genius type that could develope it. He said he got it from the god Jashin, of an "ancient religion". It all kind of fits together.

If he was the one that spread Chakra to all the smaller/weaker clans by sharing his to worhsippers/etc. it would explain why there are so many ninja clans, and why the Senju/uchiha/uzumaki/ and other direct descendant clans have stronger chakra and ninjutsu too.
 

Mitarashi

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
May 13, 2013
Messages
4,878
Reaction score
334
Jashin is sage's bro.No doubt about that.
He is going to become the final villain of the series.

Are you new here?

It's quite clear who the Final Villain is at the moment dude, the one
The only
Legendary
You must be registered for see images


This chick from the Filler.
 

Skull Knight

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jun 6, 2013
Messages
4,442
Reaction score
272
Are you new here?

It's quite clear who the Final Villain is at the moment dude, the one
The only
Legendary
You must be registered for see images


This chick from the Filler.

Damn a filler girl soloed Lord Jashin:shy:
 

TheAncientCenturion

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Oct 30, 2012
Messages
7,020
Reaction score
632
It would be pretty epic to see Jashin come out of the gourd perhaps, and start kicking shit up.
 

Silver Wolf

Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
399
Reaction score
11
You guys are ****ing retards, it's Sasuke who's going to be the final villain whether you like it or not
 
Top