[Spoilers] Elder & younger sons + chapter review

[valandil988]

Okay interesting chapter today if a bit disappointing it's stolen so much from Sasuke AND Naruto it's not even funny.

I see a lot of people on the forum happily accepting this reincarnation bullshit. You do realise what the whole reincarnated crap means right?

It means that neither Naruto or Sasuke are great on their own, now we attribute their drive and purpose to some nobody dead ghosts possessing people. I didn't need this to make either Naruto or Sasuke cooler. In fact the whole possession thing is a big turn off.

Even Madara and Hashirama have been lessened in my eyes because they aren't their own selves they have been driven by something other than themselves to become what they are. Am I the only one that feels this way?

And now we find Naruto's powers are an even greater reflection of ashura's own. Is this good? No of course not it means Naruto is less unique...

It also seems like Mokuton is the odd man out, we didn't see ashura use use it during his battle, so that is still a mystery as to where it came from. Is it possible that is what the sage was talking about a "blooming of chakra" within ashura?

So the sage had a brother...how interesting. It's obvious that the other brother did not seal or split the juubi, as there are no extra bijou or moons lol. So that must mean he is either still alive or the other half of the juubi is passed down through a family.

Looks like Indra's spiral dojutsu is just a unique mangekyou just like any other. Question how did he achieve EMS for perfect susanoo if there were no other eyes for him?

Also the rikudo can time travel....I'm sorry what? Is this bad fanfiction? I've abandoned stories with such flimsy plot devices. Sigh Kishi.....

So it looks pretty obvious that Kaguya was one sick puppy, an evil one that is. She came specifically to that land to take the fruit in order to rule over it....so she's apparently worse than Madara lol.

Overall I wasn't pleased with the chapter even if it moved the manga on a bit. So 3.8/5

 

[Allsymbolsparttwo]

your review is shit, that's my review of your review

 

[valandil988]

your review is shit, that's my review of your review

Don't like don't post ass. Now jog on.

 

[kageking]

How can anyone nt have enjoyed that chapter? I guess there will always be at least one

 

[valandil988]

How can anyone nt have enjoyed that chapter? I guess there will always be at least one

Apparently some haven't been reading the same manga. Up until this point Naruto and Sasuke have been their own persons, now they aren't they are the reincarnations of the wills of other people. Just great no?

 

[Wolfus]

Don't like don't post ass. Now jog on.

Don't like, don't post? Really? How would you feel if I told you: "don't like, don't read"?

It's a stupid statement made by people who can't understand a single thing about criticizing. If you wanna debate, you must endure criticism towards your words. Though that was 99% an insult, it happens, and replying with "don't like don't post" isn't smart at all.

 

[giostep]

...what?
How does this make them any less grate? Naruto is the reincarnation of the son not because naruto is just ment to be that, but he is the reincarnation becuase of his choices and values, his attitude and actions. Dont belittle his feats and accomplishments becuase he is the reincarnation of ashura...also I dont think you should be taking it as a literal reincarnation, im thinking of it the was tsunade saw naruto when he first came in the pein fight. Naruto had the resemblance of jariya and his father becuase of his ideals and values, along with his fighting style.

 

[boshans]

How do we know Indra had EMS? Just because he used PS doesn't mean anything, he is the FIRST "Uchiha" after all, the first with the Sharingan, so obviously he is the most powerful, I would theorize that it is reasonable that he could use PS with just MS. He is the son of the sage after all.

Hagoromo's brother probably absorbed the Juubi's "mind", the hateful part, and Hagoromo absorbed the chakra/"body". I think it makes sense, I mean Hagoromo split the chakra into 9 parts, and it's obvious the tailed beasts didn't start out as hateful beasts, and even now, they aren't really hateful, they were just wronged so they got angry, but they don't hate everyone. If they still had the juubi's "mind" in them I think they would be completely different. So the mind is still in the brother, which would be why the juubi even now is just a mindless beast.

 

[valandil988]

...what?
How does this make them any less grate? Naruto is the reincarnation of the son not because naruto is just ment to be that, but he is the reincarnation becuase of his choices and values, his attitude and actions. Dont belittle his feats and accomplishments becuase he is the reincarnation of ashura...also I dont think you should be taking it as a literal reincarnation, im thinking of it the was tsunade saw naruto when he first came in the pein fight. Naruto had the resemblance of jariya and his father becuase of his ideals and values, along with his fighting style.

It's patently obvious from how they say it in the manga that the "spirit" of the brothers is possessing and influencing their actions. How can I not be annoyed by that!? It means our two favourite characters are likely not themselves.

Don't like, don't post? Really? How would you feel if I told you: "don't like, don't read"?

It's a stupid statement made by people who can't understand a single thing about criticizing. If you wanna debate, you must endure criticism towards your words. Though that was 99% an insult, it happens, and replying with "don't like don't post" isn't smart at all.

Why are you defending him? Why did you post just to comment about my response to his extreme rudeness? If you want to critique my thoughts do so but don't make blanketing statements of no worth. And please stay on topic.

How do we know Indra had EMS? Just because he used PS doesn't mean anything, he is the FIRST "Uchiha" after all, the first with the Sharingan, so obviously he is the most powerful, I would theorize that it is reasonable that he could use PS with just MS. He is the son of the sage after all.

Hagoromo's brother probably absorbed the Juubi's "mind", the hateful part, and Hagoromo absorbed the chakra/"body". I think it makes sense, I mean Hagoromo split the chakra into 9 parts, and it's obvious the tailed beasts didn't start out as hateful beasts, and even now, they aren't really hateful, they were just wronged so they got angry, but they don't hate everyone. If they still had the juubi's "mind" in them I think they would be completely different. So the mind is still in the brother, which would be why the juubi even now is just a mindless beast.

I disagree you are creating a fallacy by saying because he was the "first" Uchiha he was the strongest hence he had none of the draw backs regarding the mangekyou.

Ps susanoo has only been shown to be useable with the EMS ergo I'm making a correct question by wondering how Indra has it.

 

[boshans]

It's patently obvious from how they say it in the manga that the "spirit" of the brothers is possessing and influencing their actions. How can I not be annoyed by that!? It means our two favourite characters are likely not themselves.



Why are you defending him? Why did you post just to comment about my response to his extreme rudeness? If you want to critique my thoughts do so but don't make blanketing statements of no worth. And please stay on topic.



I disagree you are creating a fallacy by saying because he was the "first" Uchiha he was the strongest hence he had none of the draw backs regarding the mangekyou.

Ps susanoo has only been shown to be useable with the EMS ergo I'm making a correct question by wondering how Indra has it.

Where has it been shown to only be used with EMS? Madara used it with his Rinnegan active, which obviously is above EMS but still, and yeah Sasuke probably used it, but Sasuke is obviously strong, it could be that no other Uchiha was powerful enough to use PS besides Sasuke and Madara. Actually Madara, Sasuke, and Itachi are the only Uchiha to ever show Susanoo in the first place, so I don't know where everyone came up with you NEED EMS to use it, when only 3 people have ever even used Susanoo anyway. Itachi never had a reason to use a PS if he needed to. It never was said that EMS does anything other than grant eternal light, the Itachi statement I thought was a mistranslation or something. It's not even about Indra being the first Uchiha, it's about him being the Sage's son, if he wanted to use PS then I'm sure he could use it. Obviously he made the jutsu since he was the first with the Sharingan, so he could use it when he wants. Even if you're right and you need EMS to use it now, that could be because of the diminished bloodline of the Uchiha, a lot of generations have passed between Madara/Sasuke and Indra, you can't compare them, a qualification that Madara/Sasuke would need to use a jutsu isn't necessarily the same for the son of Hagoromo.

 

[valandil988]

Where has it been shown to only be used with EMS? Madara used it with his Rinnegan active, which obviously is above EMS but still, and yeah Sasuke probably used it, but Sasuke is obviously strong, it could be that no other Uchiha was powerful enough to use PS besides Sasuke and Madara. Actually Madara, Sasuke, and Itachi are the only Uchiha to ever show Susanoo in the first place, so I don't know where everyone came up with you NEED EMS to use it, when only 3 people have ever even used Susanoo anyway. Itachi never had a reason to use a PS if he needed to. It never was said that EMS does anything other than grant eternal light, the Itachi statement I thought was a mistranslation or something. It's not even about Indra being the first Uchiha, it's about him being the Sage's son, if he wanted to use PS then I'm sure he could use it. Obviously he made the jutsu since he was the first with the Sharingan, so he could use it when he wants. Even if you're right and you need EMS to use it now, that could be because of the diminished bloodline of the Uchiha, a lot of generations have passed between Madara/Sasuke and Indra, you can't compare them, a qualification that Madara/Sasuke would need to use a jutsu isn't necessarily the same for the son of Hagoromo.

No I didn't say he needed EMS to use sasunoo I only meant that to use the perfect version of it he needed the EMS.

Diminishment bloodline doesn't hold water with me either. A diminishment of a blood trait means it no longer appears this is quite obviously untrue.

 

[boshans]

No I didn't say he needed EMS to use sasunoo I only meant that to use the perfect version of it he needed the EMS.

Diminishment bloodline doesn't hold water with me either. A diminishment of a blood trait means it no longer appears this is quite obviously untrue.

I know you didn't mean you need EMS to use regular Susanoo, I'm just saying, there has only been 3 people that we have ever seen to even use regular Susanoo, and I'm pretty sure it has not been said anywhere that you NEED EMS to use Perfect Susanoo, so I don't know where everyone has come up with this. Yes Sasuke and Madara have EMS and they used Perfect Susanoo, but the only other person to even use Susanoo besides them was Itachi, and whose to say Itachi couldn't use PS if he needed to? He was never in a situation where Perfect Susanoo would be needed.