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that actually proves ashura(and naruto by connection) makes a great leader while indra (and sasuke by connection) isn't.
OT:i'm getting real tired of repetetive overused stereotypes in this manga,it's like kishi made three characters and decided to repeat them over and over again.

They even had similar BM appearance.

Seriously though it confused me regarding to what to think of Naruto.
He paralels a guy who worked hard, this should make him an underdog but with all these parallels and reincarnation his underdog status get derailed due to destiny. I don't understand what type of thing Kishi is trying to say.
 

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You just proved me right, Sasuke should be thankful he was born an uchiha, Other wise He'd be hanging around kiba.

Hard Word > Free power ups. :)

Sorry but nowhere in this chapter did I get this gist the younger was superior. Only that he needed others to be on par with the Elder. #jimmiesrustled4life.
 

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You just proved me right, Sasuke should be thankful he was born an uchiha, Other wise He'd be hanging around kiba.

Hard Word > Free power ups. :)

No offence, but wasn't the younger son born with the sages body? All I can see is that he had latent potential that didn't show up at first, but with help of others/comrades he unlocked his potential. You can't become great unless you have the potential in the first place.(irrespective of how hard you work.)
 

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Sorry but nowhere in this chapter did I get this gist the younger was superior. Only that he needed others to be on par with the Elder. #jimmiesrustled4life.

Selective reading i see. Did you miss this part?

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Hard work > Free power ups.
 

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Selective reading i see. Did you miss this part?

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Hard work > Free power ups.

That's your fault. Even Ashura understands it was the cooperation and help of other people that made him strong. Why can't you?
 

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Hard work always prevails. Naruto is the true genius here.
 

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That's your fault. Even Ashura understands it was the cooperation and help of other people that made him strong. Why can't you?

Others believing in him, rooting for him and caring for him is what made him strong. Suffering, hard training is what made him physically strong.

Hard work > Free powers
 

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Dantee, Ashura was always as talented as Indra-he inherited the other half of the sages power. But just like Naruto, he was a late bloomer.
 

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Others believing in him, rooting for him and caring for him is what made him strong. Suffering, hard training is what made him physically strong.

Hard work > Free powers

Yes and I'm the one selectively reading. :rolleyes: Younger Son alone < Elder Son #mangafacts.
 

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Yes and I'm the one selectively reading. :rolleyes: Younger Son alone < Elder Son #mangafacts.

Will of fire (love) > Curse of hatred ( Power) :)

You're in for a rude awakening when Naruto defeats Sasuke in the final fight. (•◡•)
 

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They even had similar BM appearance.

Seriously though it confused me regarding to what to think of Naruto.
He paralels a guy who worked hard, this should make him an underdog but with all these parallels and reincarnation his underdog status get derailed due to destiny. I don't understand what type of thing Kishi is trying to say.
naruto always tries too hard but barely gets any results unless someone helps him(lee on the other way his training paid some).
his strength doesn't come from his hard work that paid off or being the reincarnation of someone,no his strong point is in the people that are by his side that lifts him up when he's down,the people that decided to help him after seeing him try so hard(with no success as always matter of fact there's isn't anything he ever did alone and succeeded )no matter amount of destiny would have paid off if he was alone.pretty much naruto is a madao.(if you know gintama enough you'll know the reference)
sadly few people can see the point of his character and what it's all about,most people like badass successful characters,personally i love failures,they're different from the stereotypes i've always seen in the mangas.
 

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Will of fire (love) > Curse of hatred ( Power) :)

You're in for a rude awakening when Naruto defeats Sasuke in the final fight. (•◡•)

At the end of the day 1v1. Sasuke > Naruto.
 

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I'm afraid this is only your opinion.

not it's not, Other people agree with me:

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And we all know Will of fire > Curse of hatred. :)

Naruto wins both ways.
 

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well yes, some people are blessed and only have shed a couple of tears for getting power whereas others have to train with others
 
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