[Discussion] Lots of questions

[uzmakinaruto]

lots lots lots of questions arose after latest chapter in my mind...Some of them are here:

1st : Sage had 1 brother which looks alike madara...Sage and his brother sealed juubi in them...the question is where is the other part of juubi which sealed in sage's brother

2nd: Sage's mother was not from this planet..then where was she from?

3rd: Sage's son indra got EMS which is not possible then how he got EMS ?

4th: Sage and his brother had same powers like madara when they were fighting with juubi ...how is that possible that they without juubi's jinchurikii had same costumes and powers and sticks like madara

5th:sage broke his juubi's sealed part and divided into 9 tailed beasts but which and where is sage's brother juubi's part divided state

6th: Its confirmed that madara = indra and naruto = ashura just look at that scan:

There's a Symbol like full moon above Ashura and symbol like half moon above Indra

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and same symbol like indra is on madara's stick

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7th: From chapter 670,Its looks like ashura was a jinchuriki of kyuubi but why didn't kyuubi tell this to naruto?

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

just wait on it...

 

[JDtheAlchemist]

Okay.. I'll try to answer as much as I can..

1.) I personally think the Juubi was ALL sealed into Hagoromo, but his brother helped him seal it. I doubt that there is really another Juubi half floating around somewhere.

2.) It's not stated that she's not from this planet, simply that she was from a faraway place. Could be an island rather than the main continent.

3.) He was the first person with a Sharingan in general. While it's not stated that he has EMS or MS, he showcases perfect Susano'o which is rather interesting. I'm sure that since he was the first person in possession of the Sharingan, he did not have to do much unlocking.

4.) It's just clothing.. Kaguya probably just wanted them to look powerful by dressing in garbs similar to herself. No Juubi required to wear a certain outfit. It also is not stated that they have the same powers. They have the staffs, but they could be just that; staffs. I don't believe that they are made of the Omnyouden because they don't have the black spheres rotating around them.

5.) Refer to answer #1

6.) Where is that confirmed...? If you ask me, Naruto = Ashura and Sasuke = Indra

7.) I don't really have an answer for this one. It doesn't make much sense to me why he'd become a Jinchuuriki when his father wanted the Bijuu to be free.. Notice that Ashura's Bijuu Mode has more than one face meaning that he could possibly be Jin to more than one Bijuu? I'm not sure, I'd really like to have an answer to this one myself.

 

[uzmakinaruto]

Okay.. I'll try to answer as much as I can..

1.) I personally think the Juubi was ALL sealed into Hagoromo, but his brother helped him seal it. I doubt that there is really another Juubi half floating around somewhere.

2.) It's not stated that she's not from this planet, simply that she was from a faraway place. Could be an island rather than the main continent.

3.) He was the first person with a Sharingan in general. While it's not stated that he has EMS or MS, he showcases perfect Susano'o which is rather interesting. I'm sure that since he was the first person in possession of the Sharingan, he did not have to do much unlocking.

4.) It's just clothing.. Kaguya probably just wanted them to look powerful by dressing in garbs similar to herself. No Juubi required to wear a certain outfit. It also is not stated that they have the same powers. They have the staffs, but they could be just that; staffs. I don't believe that they are made of the Omnyouden because they don't have the black spheres rotating around them.

5.) Refer to answer #1

6.) Where is that confirmed...? If you ask me, Naruto = Ashura and Sasuke = Indra

7.) I don't really have an answer for this one. It doesn't make much sense to me why he'd become a Jinchuuriki when his father wanted the Bijuu to be free.. Notice that Ashura's Bijuu Mode has more than one face meaning that he could possibly be Jin to more than one Bijuu? I'm not sure, I'd really like to have an answer to this one myself.

your answers seems plausible

 

[rinne boy]

You have asked too many questions all at once..We might not even be able to answer them all, but I'll give it a go.

1: no idea. yet to be revealed.
2: Venus lol... yet to be revealed..
3.It was not an EMS. It was a dojutsu which derived from the rinnegan and later mutated into the sharingan. That's what we presume, as of yet.
4. Because Kaguya ate the DAMN FRUIT. And the fruit had some hella amazing powers. Kaguya became the first individual with chakra, and hence her offspring were naturally born with chakra. Keep in mind that this no regular chakra... It's the PURE form of chakra which originated from the Juubi/Shinjuu itself.
5. Absurd question. Idk the sage's brother even divided his part of the juubi.. ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING HANGOROMO'S BROTHER REMAIN UNANSWERED AS OF YET.
6. Well, that's a bit of theory-crafting again no? In that case, Obito was a reincarnation of Ashura because his staff had a circular end with those rings.

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7: No idea. I was confused about that part myself.

 

[JDtheAlchemist]

your answers seems plausible

Thanks! I know a lot of my answers are incomplete and ambiguous, but I answered what I could and hopefully satisfied some of your questions.

 

[rinne boy]

Personally, I believe Sasuke is the reincarnation of Indra, just as Naruto is to Ashura. Seems plausible!
Moreover, I believe Hashirama and Madara were the previous incarnations of Ashura and Indra. It's just obvious. I don't even need to explain this.

 

[AWSUM SID]

1) We know death of a jinchuuriki can release the bijuu. Maybe before his death, the reamining part was transferred to so6p.
2) Another planet??
3) I guess the real reason someone can get MES is if he is directly related to SO6p. Indra was his direct son so no other senju/asura dna was required. However, due to the passage of time, his blood got "diluted". The Uchihas we see today probably had a small part of indra's blood in them and thats why dna from the other brother(asura), in the form of senju dna was required to kick-start or complete the EMS.
4) That was probably their clothing. what madara concocted was probably an image he saw in ancient scripts/tablets that had pictures depicting what SO6P looked like. He probably unconsciously decided to make himself look like that through yin-yang chakra release. As you can see, the staff isnt a real staff but some other element.
5) Part 1
6) I hope what you said becomes true as indra is more like Madra than sasuke.
7) well, to be fair, kurama and naruto started getting along only a few days ago(in the naruto world). And they are i the middle of a war. reminiscing about old times probably wasnt in the cards. But i doubt Asura had only kyuubi chakra. i think he had a bit from every bijuu with the kyuubi chakra being dominant.

 

[uzmakinaruto]

1) We know death of a jinchuuriki can release the bijuu. Maybe before his death, the reamining part was transferred to so6p.
2) Another planet??
3) I guess the real reason someone can get MES is if he is directly related to SO6p. Indra was his direct son so no other senju/asura dna was required. However, due to the passage of time, his blood got "diluted". The Uchihas we see today probably had a small part of indra's blood in them and thats why dna from the other brother(asura), in the form of senju dna was required to kick-start or complete the EMS.
4) That was probably their clothing. what madara concocted was probably an image he saw in ancient scripts/tablets that had pictures depicting what SO6P looked like. He probably unconsciously decided to make himself look like that through yin-yang chakra release. As you can see, the staff isnt a real staff but some other element.
5) Part 1
6) I hope what you said becomes true as indra is more like Madra than sasuke.
7) well, to be fair, kurama and naruto started getting along only a few days ago(in the naruto world). And they are i the middle of a war. reminiscing about old times probably wasnt in the cards. But i doubt Asura had only kyuubi chakra. i think he had a bit from every bijuu with the kyuubi chakra being dominant.

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[Seventh Sama]

1, I think they both had splitted the juubi's chakra in half, where the other half went.. maybe he sealed it away or sealed it up with the RDS...

2. she's probably from some lost forgotten island..

3.maybe he doesn't need ems in order to have PS...

4. They both inherited kaguya's power, which is essentially the juubi's power...

5. probably sealed away in his body when he used rds... just like how minato sealed the yin kurama in his body before he died.

6. that's a sun and a moon, the sun represents yang and the moon represents yin... i think its far more likely that sasuke is the elder son...

 

[TaBaYo]

1. Yet to be answered. The story just started. You would get to know about that later.:snick:

2. It did not say planet, it said this land. Madara explained that there were wars between a lot of lands, thats when Sage's Mother appeared, so probably she was also from one of the countries then which wasnt like the countries from Narutos era.

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3.His chakra was pure so he could have possessed something even stronger than EMS, his eyes were also original but as time went on that hereditary line thinned, thus Sharingan users need an additional eye to boost them to get EMS.

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4. The staff is just created by will by both Juudara and Juubito because they have the juubi chakra. The two sones also had the juubis chakra purely in them because of their mother and that was what the fight was about for the Juubi to take back his chakra. Thus they could manipulate chakra and create objects just as Juudara and Juubito could.

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5. Yet to be answered....

6. Tobi/Obito explained this earlier to Naruto, that, Madara = Indra, hashirama = Ashura and in Narutos era, Sasuke = Indra and Naruto = Ashura.

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7. Probably because kyuubi so no reason for it since it has not been needed at anytime of the war arc.

 

[boshans]

lots lots lots of questions arose after latest chapter in my mind...Some of them are here:

1st : Sage had 1 brother which looks alike madara...Sage and his brother sealed juubi in them...the question is where is the other part of juubi which sealed in sage's brother

2nd: Sage's mother was not from this planet..then where was she from?

3rd: Sage's son indra got EMS which is not possible then how he got EMS ?

4th: Sage and his brother had same powers like madara when they were fighting with juubi ...how is that possible that they without juubi's jinchurikii had same costumes and powers and sticks like madara

5th:sage broke his juubi's sealed part and divided into 9 tailed beasts but which and where is sage's brother juubi's part divided state

6th: Its confirmed that madara = indra and naruto = ashura just look at that scan:

7th: From chapter 670,Its looks like ashura was a jinchuriki of kyuubi but why didn't kyuubi tell this to naruto?

1: The brother sealed the Juubi's "mind" inside of himself, meaning the Juubi's hatred and sentience or whatever, but the full power and chakra went to Hagoromo. Probably why the Juubi is just a mindless beast today is because of this. If you think about it, the tailed beasts aren't inherently evil, they were just treated badly so they were angry with the world, but now they aren't. If they still had the Juubi's "mind" you would think they would always be evil. I don't know, that's what I think at least.

2: Venus.

3: It doesn't say anywhere he had EMS, just because he used Perfect Susanoo doesn't mean he has EMS, he was the first Sharingan user, and the son of the SAGE, I think he could use PS if he wanted to. He definitely had MS, that's probably what the Spiral eyes that were the "Elder Son Dojutsu" were, but since he is the first and most powerful he didn't need EMS to use PS. Plus it doesn't even say anywhere in the manga that you need EMS to use PS, Madara never said you need EMS to use the PS.

4: It's just clothes? The staffs are real physical staffs? Madara looks like that because obviously the brother chose the wear clothes like that, so Madara probably subconsciously chose to look like that. Plus the brothers staffs aren't black, they're not made of Onmyoudon or whatever, just real staffs.

5: There aren't any, read number 1.

6: Yeah I agree actually, It makes a lot more sense that Madara is Indra. Could be that BOTH Madara and Sasuke are Indra, once Naruto defeats Madara, Indra will manifest in Sasuke more potently, and that's when Naruto will have to fight Sasuke and finally defeat Indra for good, or you know, change Indra for good since that's probably what will happen.

7: That's not the Kyuubi. it has a million arms and it's not the same head as the Kyuubi, it's probably just Ashura's jutsu or something. I guess it could be he was the Jin of multiple tailed beasts, and that's why it looks like that. If so that's how Naruto's Bijuu Mode is going to look when he comes back lol. If so, maybe since he was the Jin of multiple beasts, no single beast could remember their time inside of him? I don't know, it could just be that his life force and chakra were so great that he could manifest something like that to help him.

 

[modthis]

Based off of Japanese lore she may very well not be from this planet but from the Moon. Though didn't someone create the moon? SO6P if I recall? Then again history as told previously has kind of been turned on it's head.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

lots lots lots of questions arose after latest chapter in my mind...Some of them are here:

1st : Sage had 1 brother which looks alike madara...Sage and his brother sealed juubi in them...the question is where is the other part of juubi which sealed in sage's brother

2nd: Sage's mother was not from this planet..then where was she from?

3rd: Sage's son indra got EMS which is not possible then how he got EMS ?

4th: Sage and his brother had same powers like madara when they were fighting with juubi ...how is that possible that they without juubi's jinchurikii had same costumes and powers and sticks like madara

5th:sage broke his juubi's sealed part and divided into 9 tailed beasts but which and where is sage's brother juubi's part divided state

6th: Its confirmed that madara = indra and naruto = ashura just look at that scan:

There's a Symbol like full moon above Ashura and symbol like half moon above Indra

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and same symbol like indra is on madara's stick

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7th: From chapter 670,Its looks like ashura was a jinchuriki of kyuubi but why didn't kyuubi tell this to naruto?

1. We might have to wait for the next chapter before speaking surely on this subject. We don't even know whether the Sage's brother even sealed the Juubi inside of him, or he just assisted Hagoromo to seal it within himself. But if he also became the jinchuuriki of the Juubi, then here's a random theory on what might have happened. Maybe, after subduing the Juubi, Hagoromo and his brother sealed the Yang and Yin parts of the Juubi respectively within themselves. Since the Sage's brother might have sealed the Yin part within himself, the Juubi was not able to escape even after he died as we have seen in Minato's case. But the Sage, who had the Yang part, divided the Juubi in nine separate constructs because it could have escaped after his death. The other half of the Juubi is still sealed within his brother's corpse, probably.

2. No assumption can be made regarding this. She might be an alien or she just came from a faraway place in the same planet.

3. He did not get EMS. The spiral pattern of his eyes that we saw previously was just the MS. But his MS is completely different from the MS we know today. The MS and EMS of today are just a step towards Indra's MS. Or maybe, Madara's and Sasuke's EMS = Indra's MS.

4. When Kaguya ate the fruit, she acquired powers rivaling the Juubi, which was probably passed down to Hagoromo and his brother. To attain the same kind of power today, it is required to become the Juubi's jinchuuriki. That outfit is probably a symbol for that power.

5. See #1

6. No, it's not. Naruto is Ashura's reincarnation and SASUKE is Indra's.

7. I don't think Ashura was the Kyuubi's jinchuuriki. It was his own chakra that formed a cloak around him similar to the Kyuubi's. The Sage said that after intense training, the chakra in Ashura's body began to bloom. Maybe, before his death, Ashura sealed his chakra inside Kyuubi, which explains why the Kyuubi has powers, abilties (multiple chakra hands as seen in Naruto's fight against Pain resembling Ashura's chakra cloak) and appearance quite different from the rest of the bijuus and why it is so ridiculously powerful even with half of its total power. It also means that any person who becomes the Kyuubi's jinchuuriki attains the same glowing appearance, not just Naruto because he is Ashura's reincarnation, but also Minato.