[VS] NO SHARINGAN War Arc Kakashi vs. Pre-MS Sasuke

[makosheva7]

Everyone says Kakashi beats almost everyone with Kamui so I was wondering what would happen if he faced a character close to his power level without his sharingan, like maybe Sasuke before he got MS (let's say during the fight against Deidara)

War-Arc Kakashi with no sharingan

Pre-MS Sasuke with curse mark

Location:
Chunnin Preliminaries

(in other words Sasuke can't use Kirin because it's inside)

Feel free to express your opinion on the fight in a more open location as well.

 

[A v i]

I think Sasuke wins this mid- high dif.

 

[Latios]

Interesting match. I think Kakashi might take this though.

 

[makosheva7]

Interesting match. I think Kakashi might take this though.

just because of experience?

 

[WreckRolled]

i wonder if raiton clone will work since sasuke is a lighting type, if not probably sasuke mid-high diff

 

[slimreaper]

Kakashi loses his two best weapons in this fight

1. Kamui

2. Rakiri

Sasuke shit stomps

 

[makosheva7]

Kakashi loses his two best weapons in this fight

1. Kamui

2. Rakiri

Sasuke shit stomps

How does Kakashi lose Raikiri? If you mean it will be noneffective against Sasuke because he's a lightning user, then you could say the same about Chidori and Chidori Stream against Kakashi which cancels out anyway.

 

[Haizaki]

Kakashi loses his two best weapons in this fight

1. Kamui

2. Rakiri

Sasuke shit stomps

and we have the fanboy in the house

 

[slimreaper]

How does Kakashi lose Raikiri? If you mean it will be noneffective against Sasuke because he's a lightning user, then you could say the same about Chidori and Chidori Stream against Kakashi which cancels out anyway.

it has been made clear that you need a sharingan to take away the weakness of the chidori
from narutopedia
This technique has a major drawback, however. The speed at which the attack must be done, combined with the fact that the user must run in a straight line, causes a tunnel vision-like effect for the user. This allows the enemy to easily counter the attack, making it a potentially lethal move for the user. Though this drawback would seem to make learning the technique fairly pointless, Sasuke and Kakashi are able to avoid the drawback because of their Sharingan, which takes in every detail, regardless of how fast the user is moving.

 

[A v i]

How does Kakashi lose Raikiri? If you mean it will be noneffective against Sasuke because he's a lightning user, then you could say the same about Chidori and Chidori Stream against Kakashi which cancels out anyway.

Nah man it is not like that,Kakashi needs sharingan to coordinate with chidori/Raikiri.He can't use it effectively without sharingan.

 

[slimreaper]

and we have the fanboy in the house

without rakiri and the sharingan sasuke does shit stomp. Kakashi wouldn't be able to put sasuke down, and would be vulnerable to genjutsu.

 

[Haizaki]

without rakiri and the sharingan sasuke does shit stomp. Kakashi wouldn't be able to put sasuke down, and would be vulnerable to genjutsu.

Ahh sasuke does stomp this guy...it says NO sharingan..just thought it was without Kamui

 

[makosheva7]

it has been made clear that you need a sharingan to take away the weakness of the chidori
from narutopedia
This technique has a major drawback, however. The speed at which the attack must be done, combined with the fact that the user must run in a straight line, causes a tunnel vision-like effect for the user. This allows the enemy to easily counter the attack, making it a potentially lethal move for the user. Though this drawback would seem to make learning the technique fairly pointless, Sasuke and Kakashi are able to avoid the drawback because of their Sharingan, which takes in every detail, regardless of how fast the user is moving.

You're totally right, but doesn't Kakashi have the Rasengan as well? Anyways the fact that now it is more likely for Sasuke to win than before doesn't mean that he will "shit stomp" Med-diff for Sasuke at least IMO

 

[makosheva7]

I SEE the flaw in this thread now. Should have said just no Kamui instead of no sharingan for Kakashi. In that case, who would win if Kakashi was just restricted to not using Kamui??

 

[slimreaper]

You're totally right, but doesn't Kakashi have the Rasengan as well? Anyways the fact that now it is more likely for Sasuke to win than before doesn't mean that he will "shit stomp" Med-diff for Sasuke at least IMO

his durability In CM2 makes killing him dificult without a technique like rakiri

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sasuke's sharingan would make besting kakashi in a taijutsu match a simple feat. Sasuke with the help of manda takes this low diff

 

[slimreaper]

I SEE the flaw in this thread now. Should have said just no Kamui instead of no sharingan for Kakashi. In that case, who would win if Kakashi was just restricted to not using Kamui??

I say sasuke with manda extreme diff

 

[makosheva7]

his durability In CM2 makes killing him dificult without a technique like rakiri

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sasuke's sharingan would make besting kakashi in a taijutsu match a simple feat. Sasuke with the help of manda takes this low diff

couldn't Kakashi use Rasengan to get through CM2?

 

[slimreaper]

couldn't Kakashi use Rasengan to get through CM2?

I doubt it. CM2 is pretty durable

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[BenjerminGaye]

So sasuke gets to keep base sharingan but kakashi doesn't?
Couldn't just restrict kamui?

Kakashi still wins btw.

 

[slimreaper]

So sasuke gets to keep base sharingan but kakashi doesn't?
Couldn't just restrict kamui?

Kakashi still wins btw.

keep fapping kakashi, sasuke shits