reason as to why minato never sensed obito during his invasion!

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i've come across this after reading some old chapters and it struck me hard. one of the common jabs at minato by haters was his apparent inability to detect obito. well looky here

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karin, the best sensor in this manga noted sasukes chaka had changed after being consumed by evil. obito also became extremely evil at that stage so that (among having hashirama cells) explains why he couldnt sense obito at all. minato knew obito as a sweet innocent kid so becoming evil ought to have changed his chakra massively.
 

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Unlocking the MS probably changed his chakra.
 

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yes this is true and possible the amount of changes obito went through plus being within white zetsu would make him very hard to recognise
 

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i've come across this after reading some old chapters and it struck me hard. one of the common jabs at minato by haters was his apparent inability to detect obito. well looky here

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karin, the best sensor in this manga noted sasukes chaka had changed after being consumed by evil. obito also became extremely evil at that stage so that (among having hashirama cells) explains why he couldnt sense obito at all. minato knew obito as a sweet innocent kid so becoming evil ought to have changed his chakra massively.

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I agree, and not to mention the fact that he was augmented with Senju DNA.
 

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He also had senju DNA and presumed dead

yes, but chakra changing after becoming evil solidifies it was impossible for minato to sense obito even if he tried.

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thanks 4th XD

yes this is true and possible the amount of changes obito went through plus being within white zetsu would make him very hard to recognise

exactly

Unlocking the MS probably changed his chakra.

really?
 

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yep this was known

but that doesnt explain how he didn't notice him until he had killed two elders and held his son hostage
 

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He was having a damn baby & had the Anbus who are suppose to be the elite of the elite taking care of everything ....ain't nobody got time for dat.
 

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yep this was known

but that doesnt explain how he didn't notice him until he had killed two elders and held his son hostage

obito has the ability to travel undetected.

- karin (best sensor) failed to notice obito's chakra when he warped in and out of jinton to save sasuke
- fuu noted his chakra disappeared when using kamui
- slipped past konohas top secret barriers.

When sasuke unlocked the MS that's when karin started to notice his chakra change, I wouldn't be surprised if it applied to all uchiha.

it was the evil that karin noted to change his chakra, hence the "colder" and "darker" remarks. it has nothing to do with the ms.
 

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obito has the ability to travel undetected.

- karin (best sensor) failed to notice obito's chakra when he warped in and out of jinton to save sasuke
- fuu noted his chakra disappeared when using kamui
- slipped past konohas top secret barriers.
no, stop.

he only has the ability to teleport freely, and become intangible. The moment he becomes tangible (which he has to to kill the guards) he should be able to be sensed.
 

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no, stop.

he only has the ability to teleport freely, and become intangible. The moment he becomes tangible (which he has to to kill the guards) he should be able to be sensed.

exactly, which erases his chakra signiture.

forgive the man for concentrating on reinforcing the seal of a rampaging beast after his wifes just given birth to their child. he isnt superman.
 

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Derp, of course.

Not to mention that he wasn't going to be paying much attention to the outside when his wife is giving birth and the ET seal is at risk of breaking. Plus, the fact that he would have felt safe with having the ANBU around.

Plus, the fact that Obito's chakra would've altered because:

1) Senju DNA
2) MS
3) Tying in with the second, the power of the Uchiha shifts in order to align with the person's emotions, and since MS requires a great emotional trauma, their chakra would have aligned in power, and in accordance.
4) Minato was very stressed too
 

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exactly, which erases his chakra signiture.

forgive the man for concentrating on reinforcing the seal of a rampaging beast after his wifes just given birth to their child. he isnt superman.
lol, stop.

if he is tangible, he can be sensed.
 

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lol, stop.

if he is tangible, he can be sensed.

he can but if he remains hidden he can erase his signiture. that is what he probably did to slip past the barriers and this was noted by two top class sensors. i have manga facts.

anyway this is off topic. it was impossible for minato to know it was obito the way he was.
 

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Maybe Minato didn't turn on his sensor mode? Or something like that. But he does have a sensor mode, Im quite sure of that...
 

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he can but if he remains hidden he can erase his signiture. that is what he probably did to slip past the barriers and this was noted by two top class sensors. i have manga facts.

anyway this is off topic. it was impossible for minato to know it was obito the way he was.

lol,stop

he had to be tangible to kill Bikwau, who was two feet away from Minato.


and after she dies he goes "oh look an intruder"
 

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it was the evil that karin noted to change his chakra, hence the "colder" and "darker" remarks. it has nothing to do with the ms.

Lol Oh my goodness do I really have to spell it out?

Karin never noted sasuke's chakra change until he unlocked his MS. Not only that but the MS only manifests when you lose someone close to you, that's what triggers love to turn into hate.

When sasuke killed itachi, that's when he stopped caring about leaving people alive & that's when his curse of hatred began.

When obito saw rin die he turned from innocent kid to brutal murderer from simply awakening the MS.

All of this leads me to believe that the MS is the cause of the "cold" chakra that karin felt, as that's when it makes the most sense for a uchiha to undergo a chakra change.
 
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