[Discussion] Aizen and Juha Bach

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From what we know only Shinigamis battles are battles of Reiatsu, Hyogaku Aizen is no longer Shinigami and Hashwalth is Quincy, so power of reiatsu don't apply here.



Schrift Hashwalth by hype should overpowered Shinigami Aizen and with Vollstandig he should be able to keep up with two or three Hyogaku Aizen's form, but for know it's his limit, of course until we get more of him. Balance power have some limit, otherwise Haschwalth would be unbeatable.
Feats shown Juha is the only one that is able to defeat him... He cut down Bankai Ichigo with little to no effort... Also Gremmy Thoumeaux his powers are in his Imagination he's pretty op as well...
 

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Yes, but how do you know that Yamamoto or Hyogaku Aizen wouldn't do same? Yamamoto have pretty huge feats.

He cut Bankai Ichigo, but that Ichigo wasn't on power level as he was after Dangai training. In my opininon he was stronger than any FKT version, so i would say that he was around Gin's level. Plus, he was battle worn form his fight against Qulqe, from trying to escape from jail and fighting against Yhwach.
 

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Didnt Yamamoto get solo'd by Aizen then Ichigo had to beat him? Not to mention but I dont think juha bach can use yamamoto's bankai better then him so I think Azien has a shot to beat him but we all know who is going to beat him ICHIGO!!!!! YAY!!!! or Isshin or Kenpachi
 

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Didnt Yamamoto get solo'd by Aizen then Ichigo had to beat him? Not to mention but I dont think juha bach can use yamamoto's bankai better then him so I think Azien has a shot to beat him but we all know who is going to beat him ICHIGO!!!!! YAY!!!! or Isshin or Kenpachi
Aizen didn't beat Yamamoto's bankai, Aizen didn't even beat Yamamoto's shikai, Margela was the one who stopped Yamamoto.
 

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I don't know there is not enough info to go on right now but the fact Aizen messed with Juha definitely shows that Aizen is no joke,
Kyouka suigetsu would probably screw with Juha but Juha's original powers are pretty crazy. I wonder how Yamamoto defeated Juha the first time. He didn't kill him so why?? He killed many of his comrades so why not Juha? I think Old man Yama would have given Aizen a great fight if he showed his bankai but it was probably a strategic move not to show him. Think about it, his bankai shows Quincy souls that he torched in the past. It reveals a darker past of Soul society and Aizen must have learned this on his own,
or why else would he want to overthrow the Soul king, I think Aizen, Isshin, Urahara will be involved in the fight with Juha or at least with the mystery of the Soul king,
 

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We are forgetting the crucial problem.Aizen is a transcendent being(shinigami,zanpakuto and hollow),while Yhwach is a quincy.He is at a higher dimension of power than everyone except Ichigo.As for Yamamoto's bankai , i think it's not such a special thing.Aizen's fragor created a crater kilometres in diameter.
Yhwach is the most powerful quincy but his greatest weakness is his complex soul power.
 

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We are forgetting the crucial problem.Aizen is a transcendent being(shinigami,zanpakuto and hollow),while Yhwach is a quincy.He is at a higher dimension of power than everyone except Ichigo.As for Yamamoto's bankai , i think it's not such a special thing.Aizen's fragor created a crater kilometres in diameter.
Yhwach is the most powerful quincy but his greatest weakness is his complex soul power.
Aizen is no longer transcendent, behold:
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his right eye is now normal and his left eye is purple now:
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His left eye is normal too, so his back to base mode but just with immortality
 

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I don't know why you guys bother about transcedents. Aizen stated that Ichigo in FKT was already transcedent, but at that time i can name 10 characters who can beat him, transcedent doesn't mean strongest.
+ I don't think Juchabach is ordinary Quincy, he is something more.
 

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Aizen is no longer transcendent, behold:
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his right eye is now normal and his left eye is purple now:
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His left eye is normal too, so his back to base mode but just with immortality
I think that's just the new form he took after Ichigo cut him with Mugetsu.
 

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Aizen of course..he was able to juha bach in kyoka suigetsu while being completely restrained and not even having his sword not to mention aizen hasn't even shown us his full power he's never once unleashed his bankai so aizen's already op abilities,with his bankai his transcendent powers,i think juha bach loses though it would be close.
 
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