[Theory] [Spoilers!] The Other Mysterious Old Man

[GhostProject]

There are some things that makes me to disagree. The younger son surely must have had one heck of long lifeforce but what you say is outrageous if we thing tht he could survive this long. The fruit that Kagyua ate supposedly appears one in 1000 years and when that man appears surely a couple of hundrends of years must have passed. He simply can't have survived for that long.

Secondly, what you said with the tear makes sense but it's quite a long shot to make a theory based on that. It could simply mean that he felt very deep happiness. My second point might not be very important but you should realize that if you do the maths that old man of the modern world being the younger son is quite far- fetched.

Fair arguments. You're right, my second point is more intuitive than concrete. But regarding your main point, the amount of years, does pose an issue to the idea, however, I think it is in some way possible due to us not knowing the *exact* point in time of the flashback. Enough time has to have passed for there to have been some organization within the Sand culture, but not enough time for villages to have been full fledged and organized. Kishi might've left himself room not giving the guards headbands. I'm not a Naruto historian but I think Kishi has room to work it in. It's definitely a weak point of the theory, I will give that.

Well, the younger son would have be like a millennium years old and since it was shown to be in the sand village it shouldn't have been that too long ago. Since konoha is the first village and was founded like a century ago from the current time.

I see what you are saying. If this is possible, we know it had to have been from Sand Culture, but not necessarily after the formation of the village as the guards do not sport headbands, so it may not be a clear indicator. I know the general timeline of Naruto, but not specifics enough to know if this is possible, I'll look into it. These are definitely notches against this theory as Kishi would have a lot of plot to explain to the readers, and extended life force doesn't cut it as an answer.

Thank you for the response though, I'll have to look into it.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Fair arguments. You're right, my second point is more intuitive than concrete. But regarding your main point, the amount of years, does pose an issue to the idea, however, I think it is in some way possible due to us not knowing the *exact* point in time of the flashback. Enough time has to have passed for there to have been some organization within the Sand culture, but not enough time for villages to have been full fledged and organized. Kishi might've left himself room not giving the guards headbands. I'm not a Naruto historian but I think Kishi has room to work it in. It's definitely a weak point of the theory, I will give that.



I see what you are saying. If this is possible, we know it had to have been from Sand Culture, but not necessarily after the formation of the village as the guards do not sport headbands, so it may not be a clear indicator. I know the general timeline of Naruto, but not specifics enough to know if this is possible, I'll look into it. These are definitely notches against this theory as Kishi would have a lot of plot to explain to the readers, and extended life force doesn't cut it as an answer.

Thank you for the response though, I'll have to look into it.

Good thread tho...

 

[Henchman24]

Nice theory. I like it a lot. I wonder why the old man doesn't have eyes though. Maybe he is the elder son!

Flashback: Elder son and younger son wage war for a long time. Then the Elder son kills the younger son. It is after this that the Elder son realizes his method of peace is not working seeing as he has already lost his father and, by his own hands, his only brother( and we all know how the Uchiha side of the family feels about losing brothers ). Stricken by grief and despair, he destroys his eyes and then other stuff happens.

Maybe, lol.

 

[vasu 32]

Yeah I know it's him,tbh. Kishi won't just introduced an old man for no reason.

OP- You lost me on old man=younger son,because shukaku wouldn't talk to the first/second born of sage like that,not to mention that the son wouldn't be held captive either.

 

[GhostProject]

nice theory bub

Thanks wolverine Lol

Awesome post, man.

Thank you dude!

Thank you for taking the time to make that theory, I have only ever read the manga twice and that was the last 2 chapters of the manga, so I learnt some stuff from your theory. it seems like a very good theory, thanks.

No thank you. Glad to see you found this amazing manga as well!

Good thread tho...

Heh thanks. I still am leaning towards this possibility, but there would have to be plot device or further explanation of the timeline.

Nice theory. I like it a lot. I wonder why the old man doesn't have eyes though. Maybe he is the elder son!

Flashback: Elder son and younger son wage war for a long time. Then the Elder son kills the younger son. It is after this that the Elder son realizes his method of peace is not working seeing as he has already lost his father and, by his own hands, his only brother( and we all know how the Uchiha side of the family feels about losing brothers ). Stricken by grief and despair, he destroys his eyes and then other stuff happens.

Maybe, lol.

Thank you! Haha, wow that's a stretch of the imagination. Definitely far-fetched, maybe as mine is in some respects, but I'm glad to see it got the creativity flowing =D

Yeah I know it's him,tbh. Kishi won't just introduced an old man for no reason.

OP- You lost me on old man=younger son,because shukaku wouldn't talk to the first/second born of sage like that,not to mention that the son wouldn't be held captive either.

Perhaps it was an unnecessary part of the theory, but there are plenty unknowns about the Younger Son. The Bijuu seemed to mostly stop trusting anyone after the Sage, perhaps they didn't trust the sons either, especially after they saw them fight. And being held captive to hold one of the most violent tailed beasts may have been a fate of his choosing. The old man in general seems like he would fit a self sacrificing and pacifist character.

Who knows, perhaps that section is a bit too speculative for comfort though. He is just very similar to both the Younger Son and Naruto and has quite a mysteriousness about him.

 

[uchihamad]

WoW nice theory I logged in to the base so that can give some rep

But I personally think the person Naruto going to meet should become Minato. Minato carried those black shape shifting balls. so it is ok to his edo form destroyed and reach at Naruto's consciousness . Minato still need to give him the gift.

 

[Byron123]

WoW nice theory I logged in to the base so that can give some rep

But I personally think the person Naruto going to meet should become Minato. Minato carried those black shape shifting balls. so it is ok to his edo form destroyed and reach at Naruto's consciousness . Minato still need to give him the gift.

I'm sure that you understand by now that the gift Minato spoke of was his half Kurama, right?

 

[WolfHaley]

The only thing I disagree on os the old man being the sage's son. Well done regardless.

Edit: I agree fully

 

[uchihamad]

I'm sure that you understand by now that the gift Minato spoke of was his half Kurama, right?

What if there is more than kurama ? Like Itachi transferred his amaterasu to Sasuke he might transfer his tecnhniques to Naruto .

 

[bdm]

it would have been more effective if you had written an summery or a conclusion

 

[UzumakiAlex]

Awesome theory but I really want to see the sage of six paths face

 

[Flakez]

Really nice theory. I enjoyed reading it, but I still think that the Sage would be more fitting.

 

[davidou]

Naruto is a master at "understanding hidden hearts" , and a master to solve their problems.
This interesting old priest of the sand have nothing to teach to Naruto.

I liked your thread , imaginative , I liked your hypothesis of this old man being the younger son.
His fights against his brother made him work on "accept hidden hearts" to try to save his brother ( like Naruto for Sasuke).

One thing made me doubt , timeline , Ichibi was a baby when so6p died.
If this priest is so6p's son , Ichibi may have 50 years max , he has grown a lot but plausible.

The organisation around Ichibi would have to be set up very quickly (there are fighters in this organisation , the best are selected to take care of Ichibi and his jinchuriki).

Someone mastered Uzumaki jinchuriki sealing technique , a little time after Hagoromo's death , ninja were very strong at that time , in only 50 years with chakra.
The 900 years between Hagoromo and Hashirama must have been very bloody , given that in 50 years humans mastered awesome jutsus , and given that in 100 years we saw 4 great wars.

This priest have to be born centuries after the SO6P.

 

[Drifter2410]

Epic theory. Plausible and convincing. Great work. Repped.

 

[Triforce No Jutsu]

Nice theory, I could see it being him but I feel like Kishi might use this chance to introduce the Sage.

 

[Tenzen14]

great analysis hope it happens

 

[Elderdogsage]

Nice theory but the younger son had a headband and the old man didn't and how would the younger son end up in sand territory when it seemed like all of the stuff with the sage happened around konoha. (I guess he could have been traveling like jeriyia or escaping his brother)

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

That old guy looks alot like Chiyo's brother.

RANDOM OLD GUY IS AN UZOOMAKI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sarcasm aside, Unlikely.

 

[mistninja314]

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[FearxDeath]

I agree with this thread and disagree at the same time. I like the effort put into it which made it easy to read, but most importantly I agree that based on your presentation I would agree that it could possibly be the Old Man. BUT keep in mind that anything is possible, so now lets move on to probability.

What would the old man give to Naruto? Would he tell him that all the Tailed Beasts should be cherished and treated right? Naruto already believes that heck he freed the 4 Tails when it was controlled by Obito and recieved chakra from all the Tailed Beasts signifying their trust in one another. What he present Naruto with a new technique or philosophy of some sort? Unlikely. But most importantly how did he get their, As he said Jinchuriki die when removed from their tailed beast, Shukaku is in Gaara therefore the old man must be dead. So is Naruto talking to a spirit.. And again Why? Although Naruto could meet the Old Man it seems unlikely and if anything would be more filler to delay the end of the manga.

As oppose to him meeting the Sage who could shed some meaningful back story on his upcoming and possibly some useful information about the Juubi, its purpose and how to stop/contain it. On top of which the sage has been referenced several times in relation to Naruto the most meaningful being when the Juubi looks at Naruto and see's the Sage.

On top of which seeing as to how the Sage's last actions before dying of old age was sealing the juubi and scattering its chakra it stands to reason that if he was to meet naruto he would be an old man, hence "the mysterious old man."