Did Tobirama really die against those 20 ninja?

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What is suprising is that he didnt die, but actually survived the onslaught of kinkaku, ginkaku, kakuzu, + 17 other jounin+ shinobi. I mean do you even know how powerful kinkaku and ginkaku is?
 

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I honestly don't see how is that hard to believe, and I do believe that Kin and Gin were part of that group.
Kinkaku alone is more than enough to defeat Tobirama in my opinion. U_U
 

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What is suprising is that he didnt die, but actually survived the onslaught of kinkaku, ginkaku, kakuzu, + 17 other jounin+ shinobi. I mean do you even know how powerful kinkaku and ginkaku is?
you just lied and made shit up.
kinkaku and ginkaku never had help, not at any point in the manga was this established or stated or even implied.
not once was it stated tobirama sensed kurama chakra in the flashback. not once was it stated they had anything to do with the brothers and not once did kin and gin state they kileld him, only that they defeated him. they even believed tobirama was the one who rezzed them.meaning they died probably after their attempted coup, probably executed for treason by third raikage whom they also know.

Tobirama teabagged Izuna who was = to MS Madara
based on absolutely nothing whatsoever. itachis claim that izuna is = to MS madara is baseless, foolish and completely imbalanced by izunas portrayal in battle in the flashback and by izunas amazement at hs brother's abilities.
itachi knows nothing about that time period. no one does besides the people actually there so we must ignore ignorant statements like itachi's
Based on the fact, older generation >>>> Kakashi's generation.
not a fact, just made up horseshit that you lied about

Also, it wasn't just Tobirama's guess.. everyone knew it also, even the kids.
they knew they were surrounded by strong guys. thats literally it.
if tobirama sensed strong chakras he wuld be like "zomg thats so and so, omg we're all dead! run run run!" but he wasnt. he was like "we are surrounded so why would some of us die when only one of us needs to?"
 

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Given his portrayal in the war, Tobirama is definitely a legendary tier shinobi. We know Kinkaku and Ginkakau floored him and the Nidaime Raikage at a meeting, but that was an ambush so I'm willing to look past it.

However, I feel as though with Tobirama's feats and portrayal lately, he should've wrecked the 20 ninja from the Kinkaku Squad. He may only be 1 man, but I feel he should've survived that attack. He's a champion with FTG, his Suiton ripped through the Senju like butter, he was the only one astute enough with Naruto to see Senjutsu's effectiveness against Juubito, and he's shown to be an impressive sensor.

So how did a guy this strong go down against 20 shinobi when his brother was solo'ing the strongest Bijuu and Madara at the same time. There had to be some foul play afoot unless the Cloud was filled to the brim with Kage level shinobi all on one team. How could they possibly tag him while he's teleporting around at blinding speed?
Better yet, why didnt he just teleport him and his team out of trouble.
 

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What is suprising is that he didnt die, but actually survived the onslaught of kinkaku, ginkaku, kakuzu, + 17 other jounin+ shinobi. I mean do you even know how powerful kinkaku and ginkaku is?

kakuzu never fought tobirama, and he only even saw kin and gin once.

The KinGin Bro's attacked Tobirama and 2nd Raikage. We know tobirama survived that attack so he could get killed by the Kinkaku Force (which does NOT contain kinkaku) later.

SInce Tobirama is a sensor, he wouldnt be likely to miss the chakra of those guys who beat the crap out of him.
 
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It's possible that a young 3rd raikage was part of the group(as someone above me said) That might explain it, as that guy is a beast who's almost impossible to kill.(tanked a rasenshuriken with minimal damage, and fought 10000 shinobis for 3 days straight) That, combined with 19 other shinobis, and you have a recipe for disaster for Tobirama.

I heard SO6P was part of that grp too . Get over it Tobirama died from these ninjas.
 

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ELITE kumo shinobi..

Kakashi ever been called elite? Not that i know of. =]. Kakashi is Darui/Kitsuchi level.

Dafq is this nonsense? Elite ninja means Kakashi's level? Since when?

OT:I can clearly see people of base Super underrating Kin & Gin bro's.They are strong and definitely strong enough to fight a Kage level shinobi.Tobirama ain't beating them that easily.
 
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I heard SO6P was part of that grp too . Get over it Tobirama died from these ninjas.

That's a shitty argument(not surprising given the intelligence of the members here)-the 3rd Raikage being part of the kin/gin squad is NOT as unlikely as you think because:
A:He's a kumo ninja
B:These ninjas were "elite". Given how powerful he was, it's not unlikely that he was part of the division.
C: THe sage wasn't around at the time.

So yeah. Try again....
 

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Third Raikage takes on 10,000 :)

That's a shitty argument(not surprising given the intelligence of the members here)-the 3rd Raikage being part of the kin/gin squad is NOT as unlikely as you think because:
A:He's a kumo ninja
B:These ninjas were "elite". Given how powerful he was, it's not unlikely that he was part of the division.
C: THe sage wasn't around at the time.

So yeah. Try again....
So, what your saying is that the leader of the village was just a random bounty hunter.

Accept the truth, Tobirama was nothing but a diversion. He was trying to lead them away, not kill them.
 

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So, what your saying is that the leader of the village was just a random bounty hunter.

Accept the truth, Tobirama was nothing but a diversion. He was trying to lead them away, not kill them.

Uh, no. I am saying that the FUTURE leader of the village was possiblibly part of the ELITE kin/gin unit. I mean, the third raikage was younger than tobirama obviously, so we don't know what he was up to before being the raikage.
 

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Uh, no. I am saying that the FUTURE leader of the village was possiblibly part of the ELITE kin/gin unit. I mean, the third raikage was younger than tobirama obviously, so we don't know what he was up to before being the raikage.

You cannot even prove he was part of that squad .
 

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There's no way in hell that the third was part of the team. Why would he be part of a group that staged a coup against his predecessor?

The only people that are confirmed to have been there are Kin, Gin, and potentially Kakuzu. These three alone pose a great threat.
 

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You cannot even prove he was part of that squad .
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No I can't-that's why I said it was a possibility. People here are moaning about how tobirama was defeated by "20 fodders". However, if the 3rd raikage was one of those "fodders", it makes perfect sense, as the 3rd Raikage could arguably defeat Tobirama on his own.
 

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The third Raikage isn't fast enough to even touch Tobirama.
 
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