[Theory] [Spoilers!] The Other Mysterious Old Man

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For those that have heard the 667 and new 670 WSJ preview, we know that Naruto is going to be meeting with a "mysterious old man." We also know that this meeting will be within the consciousness of a Bijuu because of the water ripple floor Naruto awakes upon at the end of 669. (Thanks to Sir Derp for posting these previews in his thread)

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Anyways, this is a lengthy one so grab a drink and a snack. Here we go!

At first intuition, I believed it was the Sage of Six Paths because it is plausible, makes sense, and he's been referred to as "Old Man" on multiple occasions.

I however believe there is an Old Man we are overlooking, is much more mysterious, and in my opinion is more relevant to Naruto at this point than the Sage himself. Yes, I said more relevant to Naruto than the Sage.

Who? This unknown old man

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Take a moment to hear me out on this one

1. With as little as we've seen of him, he is unbelievably relevant and similar to Naruto. Take this page.

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-The name of the game in this manga is empathy. This old man was a jinchuuriki like Naruto, and not just any jin, a jinchuuriki of the modern ninja world. He can completely connect with Naruto's past.

-His view of the Bijuu's is uncommon in the Shinobi world. Uncommon as it is, it is like Naruto's. The man suggests that Man and Bijuu can find peace. His philosophy can connect to and help Naruto's present goal, of freeing the Bijuu and making peace with them.

-His view of the way to personal peace, is through a real friend. Naruto knows this. The old man can connect and help in Naruto's future: The conflict with Sasuke over the Bijuu foreshadowed in 635: A New Wind.

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-It is worth noting that the old man stated that he believes there will be someone else like him. Naruto is completely like him, and can connect with him both personally and by philosophy. It makes sense that he would want to meet the Prophecy Child that will be like him.

The Sage (As far as we know), can only connect with Naruto on a philosophical level. This man has experienced what Naruto has both gone through, identifies with what he is going through, and can help in what he WILL go through.

2. Why this old man? Who is he?

Edit: Note that this section seems to be raising more questions than it answers, it is not necessary to the overall theory, and is more or less speculative conclusions. Regardless, Kishi seems to be able to do anything when he wants it for plot =D and the main point to note is his similarity to the philosophies of Naruto, the Sage at the end of his life, and what we accept as the Younger Son

I believe these questions can be answered from this page:

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-From what we have seen in the manga, this old man is the only person besides Naruto to remind a Bijuu of the Sage of Six Paths. Something they do not seem to say lightly.

-When the Shukaku says this, the old man's reaction is silence, then tears, and then a thank you. Were these simply tears of joy that he was breaking through to Shukaku? I think not, Shukaku was friendly to him in previous panels, saying he was like the Sage struck a sentimental note, making them the kindest words. But why would he have feelings for the Sage?

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-The old man makes it clear that his 'master' had similar ideas, and this man believes he is carrying out the will of his master.

-In the top left panel, he also makes the exact same prophecy that the Sage did. Foreshadowing Naruto.

-These facts, combined with a tear at the mention of the Sage leads me to believe that this man is none other than the Younger Son, the original successor to the Sage who believed that peace comes through love.

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Naruto is now the successor to the Sage, the one who is meant to complete what was started and prophesied. Much like the Younger son. This old man seems to embody the spirit of the Sage, and if he is in fact the Younger Son, it would be appropriate for Naruto to get advice/powerup from one who has been in his shoes.

3. Why a meeting with the the old man as the Younger Son over a meeting with the Sage

- Like I said, he seems to have more personal connections to Naruto than the Sage would, including knowing the pain of being a modern jinchuuriki and having a brother/friend like Sasuke

-This is the Will of Fire. The Sage entrusted his younger son to complete what he could not, and now this old man whom I believe is the younger, will entrust Naruto with the duty that he himself could not complete neither.

-If the Sage truly entrusted his son to be successful, then he has little need to put his chakra in a tailed beast to meet up with that son.

If this old man is the younger son, then he has perfect reason to put his chakra in a tailed beast to meet up with the Prophecy Child. The old man talked like he did not have a successor he would know of and most likely did not given his situation. It makes sense that he would want to eventually meet with the one who would create peace between man and beast, to both assess and guide him.

-His hand markings, accept and receive the heart. The man talks of the problem that nobody truly speaks of what their heart desires. Naruto's way is to show others his heart. This old man preaches what it is that makes Naruto special in this war and the one who will bring peace. Interesting.

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-If this old man is the younger like I suspect, then he will know how to deal with someone like Madara or Sasuke, because of his own brother. The Sage might not connect with Naruto on this personal level.



I believe that this old man is the Younger Son of the Sage, and is actually the mysterious old man that is referred to in the WSJ previews. We know much of the Sage's role with the Bijuu's, however, we have yet to see the role of this man come into play, yet his panels lead us to believe he is connected with the Sage and his ideals are so similar to Naruto's. Naruto's method of peace is also the exact same as this old man's, only Naruto has perfected it.

Anyways, thank you for reading if you actually took the time. Let me know what you think! What would you think if this happened? Or do you think there is no way the meeting won't be with the Sage? I really just want this possibility explored as I currently believe that it is actually more appropriate for the plot
 
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This is an awesome theory, and one that I haven't heard of before. It sounds very plausible to me. Great work!
 

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Alot of people already know but rep for your effort
 

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Sorry, I didn't think it was too obvious. Thought it might warrant a theory :|



Thank you man! =D



So I'm learning haha, but thank you!

Nah it's okay, I like it.
 

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Couple of thing tho.... How in the hell is the younger son still alive? Anyways that old man was just a plot device to make shukaku trust gaara....
 

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Not bad theory. It´s also a possibility. But i still think, it would be the sage of the six paths.
 

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two hours of wasted effort.!!

its the sage, ComeOn.!!
 

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Bloody nice theory!!! :bouncy:

Thank you!

No, its the sage. Deal with it

Nothing is ever so absolute

One thing tho.... How in the hell is the younger son still alive? Anyways that old man was just a plot device to make shukaku trust gaara....

Well, he's not alive in present time. I'd just assume he'd have lived for a long time because he is 100% pure Senju blood. It was also in Shukaku's memories, so there is no specified timeline of when he lived, just that he was quite old and it was in an older (sand?) village.

I was meaning that he was going to meet with Naruto via leftover chakra in the next chapter, much like Minato did and how people are theorizing the Sage will do after death.
 

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Interesting angle to look at it + rep

i still believe it is the Sage but very nice
 
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Eh,i still think it's SO6P,but very nice theory indeed.
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He'll appear in naruto's consciousness,he's not alive mate.
 

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There are some things that makes me to disagree. The younger son surely must have had one heck of long lifeforce but what you say is outrageous if we thing tht he could survive this long. The fruit that Kagyua ate supposedly appears once in 1000 years and when that man appears surely a couple of hundrends of years must have passed. He simply can't have survived for that long.

Secondly, what you said with the tear makes sense but it's quite a long shot to make a theory based on that. It could simply mean that he felt very deep happiness. My second point might not be very important but you should realize that if you do the maths that old man of the modern world being the younger son is quite far- fetched.
 
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Not bad theory. It´s also a possibility. But i still think, it would be the sage of the six paths.

Thank you. I still recognize there's a good chance it's the Sage, but personally I think this makes a great and unexpected(?) alternative.

two hours of wasted effort.!!

its the sage, ComeOn.!!

I don't think it was wasted :|

Interesting angle to look at it + rep

i still believe it is the Sage but very nice

Thank you! I think the Sage has a good chance still, it'd be the safest move on Kishi's part. I just think he might have a trick up his sleeve on this one =D
 

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Thank you!



Nothing is ever so absolute



Well, he's not alive in present time. I'd just assume he'd have lived for a long time because he is 100% pure Senju blood. It was also in Shukaku's memories, so there is no specified timeline of when he lived, just that he was quite old and it was in an older (sand?) village.

I was meaning that he was going to meet with Naruto via leftover chakra in the next chapter, much like Minato did and how people are theorizing the Sage will do after death.
Well, the younger son would have be like a millennium years old and since it was shown to be in the sand village it shouldn't have been that too long ago. Since konoha is the first village and was founded like a century ago from the current time.
 

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Thank you for taking the time to make that theory, I have only ever read the manga twice and that was the last 2 chapters of the manga, so I learnt some stuff from your theory. it seems like a very good theory, thanks.
 
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