Brother Numpsay
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I'm joking, there is no way you can stop these arguments. But what I did notice is some people making misconceptions about these two instant shot jutsus. I will like to bring them up.
Misconception 1: These two jutsu can make a larger hitbox by will.
Thats not how it works. Now I know someone will bring Databook for Kamui stating it can, but I will address this later. For Amaterasu, it has specifically explained that it works for line of sight. If the line of sight target is a Giant, it will create Giant flames. If the line of sight is a human, it will create the size compatible to the target.
Example: The size of Katon effected Itachi's line of sight[
In every case when Amaterasu was use, vs Danzo, Ay/Samurai, Sasuke, Nagato ,Juubito ,and Madara, it was shown to burn the capability of the opponent.
The limit it can extend is what we have to go by from the manga. Sasuke cannot light up Amaterasu to Juubi, which is why he got help from Naruto's wind release to burn the size that would be effective. So looking in a point of view via no limit fallacy, the largest it can go is Summoning size Amaterasu. And once again the target has to be Summoning size in order to produce that large.
Misconception 2: Kamui is instant in every range.
In all the cases of Kamui warping instantly, they were all very close to Kakashi. Note: I will use even unskilled Kamui Kakashi to prove my point too.
Lets look at all the long range use scenario.[
In the end these one shot "instant" jutsu have its cons
Misconception 1: These two jutsu can make a larger hitbox by will.
Thats not how it works. Now I know someone will bring Databook for Kamui stating it can, but I will address this later. For Amaterasu, it has specifically explained that it works for line of sight. If the line of sight target is a Giant, it will create Giant flames. If the line of sight is a human, it will create the size compatible to the target.
Example: The size of Katon effected Itachi's line of sight[
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]. Because of this he was able to produce the flames that blocked his line of sight.[
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].In every case when Amaterasu was use, vs Danzo, Ay/Samurai, Sasuke, Nagato ,Juubito ,and Madara, it was shown to burn the capability of the opponent.
The limit it can extend is what we have to go by from the manga. Sasuke cannot light up Amaterasu to Juubi, which is why he got help from Naruto's wind release to burn the size that would be effective. So looking in a point of view via no limit fallacy, the largest it can go is Summoning size Amaterasu. And once again the target has to be Summoning size in order to produce that large.
Misconception 2: Kamui is instant in every range.
In all the cases of Kamui warping instantly, they were all very close to Kakashi. Note: I will use even unskilled Kamui Kakashi to prove my point too.
Lets look at all the long range use scenario.[
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].<--2 more pages, you get the point. Now lets look at the close range in the same arc[
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. Techically 2 pages compare to long range 5 pages. Lets look at more experience Kakashi via Pain arc. [
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]<== Page 1 give it alot more panel time. Lets look at War arc: Long range [
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]. Obito had enough time to cancel it. In fact the whole fight Kakashi shown he had to move closer to warp things faster, shown through out the whole fight. Juubi arc Kakashi's comment[
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. All of these evidence shows that close range shot of Kamui's line of sight is slower then long range shots, therefore it isn't instant in ever range. Even if Kakashi were to make a larger warp range, that would mean it will take longer to consume the opponent, shown against Deidara. [
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]. So in a sense, it shares the same case of Amaterasu one shot arguments. In the end these one shot "instant" jutsu have its cons
