[VS] DSM Kabuto v.s Juubi Madara

[Rama Saravanan]

Intel : Manga

Rstrictions : None XD

Location : Current

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I am assuming Kabuto can fight at his peaked?

He summons Edo Tensei from his contract.

He makes Orochimaru, from his belly, summon Edo Tensei from Orochimaru's contract.

Orochimaru Edo's gives all the intel that Senjutsu, Taijutsu, and Fuinjutsu works against him.

 

[KidGamer65]

I am assuming Kabuto can fight at his peaked?

He summons Edo Tensei from his contract.

He makes Orochimaru, from his belly, summon Edo Tensei from Orochimaru's contract.

Orochimaru Edo's gives all the intel that Senjutsu, Taijutsu, and Fuinjutsu works against him.

Then Madara rapes him low difficulty anyway. Not to mention this is just more fanfiction. You simply giving Kabuto more things he has never shown with terrible evidence behind your reasoning for doing so.

-Having Orochimaru's DNA doesn't enable him to summon the 4 Edo Hokage at full power as that is not the reason why he can summon them. Don't know where you got this BS from.

-He has never summoned them on screen using their DNA nor has he even done the ritual to summon them to this world, so he doesn't get them. Simple as that.

 

[Conspirator.]

This is such a great match up.......not. Madara rapes this clown.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Edos or not, blind madara already took out the strongest edo and juubi madara already took out the fastest edo. If the strongest and fastest efos, who both have sm, are useless, none of them are useful.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Then Madara rapes him low difficulty anyway. Not to mention this is just more fanfiction. You simply giving Kabuto more things he has never shown with terrible evidence behind your reasoning for doing so.

I am pretty sure IC Madara will have some fun instead of trying to demolish them in an instant. This match up is fanfiction. I will address this terrible evidence

-Having Orochimaru's DNA doesn't enable him to summon the 4 Edo Hokage at full power as that is not the reason why he can summon them. Don't know where you got this BS from.

It actually does as Edo Tensei goes by how much chakra is being use to amp the reanimated Edo's. Kabuto is using Senjutsu chakra, while Orochimaru was using Hashirama's cell. They wont be full powered but it least close

-He has never summoned them on screen using their DNA nor has he even done the ritual to summon them to this world, so he doesn't get them. Simple as that.

Of course he didn't.

1. The story line stated Kabuto couldn't do it because the Kages were sealed (Kabuto explain this to Obito)
2. Current Kabuto is fully aware Orochimaru broke the seal to summon Edo Hokages.
3. Kabuto has access to Orochimaru so through his DNA he can apply to what Orochimaru can do.

 

[KidGamer65]

I am pretty sure IC Madara will have some fun instead of trying to demolish them in an instant. This match up is fanfiction. I will address this terrible evidence

Doesn't matter if he has fun, he still destroys Kabuto cause that is how weak he is in comparison.

lol? So you can bring fanfiction since this is a fanfic match up? As expected from you though..

It actually does as Edo Tensei goes by how much chakra is being use to amp the reanimated Edo's. Kabuto is using Senjutsu chakra, while Orochimaru was using Hashirama's cell. They wont be full powered but it least close

This doesn't tell me that he can summon the Edos Orochimaru summoned.

Of course he didn't.

1. The story line stated Kabuto couldn't do it because the Kages were sealed (Kabuto explain this to Obito)

Irrelevant. In fact the story line stated that Orochimaru couldn't do it because Minato was sealed, Kabuto can't summon them so nothing was said about him not being able to do it in the first place.

2. Current Kabuto is fully aware Orochimaru broke the seal to summon Edo Hokage

Irrelevant.

3. Kabuto has access to Orochimaru so through his DNA he can apply to what Orochimaru can do.

When you show me him having these guys' DNA and him calling their souls to the pure world using the ritual, then Kabuto will have them in his arsenal.

-No proof that having Oro's DNA lets him get access to his Edo Zombies.

I think your Kabuto wank has gone on long enough. Feats, conclusive evidence or take your wank elsewhere.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

-No proof that having Oro's DNA lets him get access to his Edo Zombies.

Your making two statements here:

-When you show me Kabuto having these guys' DNA and him calling their souls to the pure world using the ritual, then Kabuto will have them in his arsenal.

-No proof that having Oro's DNA lets him get access to his Edo Zombies.

Statement 1: The ritual is already prepared through Orochimaru, why do I need to have evidence of Kabuto doing it, so Kabuto can acess it?

Statement 2: Kabuto has injected peoples chakra/DNA into himself[

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Kabuto himself cannot summon Orochimaru's Edo Tensei, since he didnt do the ritual. But he can summon Orochimaru to access it, since he knows the hand seals to summon them

 

[Oblivionx]

XD nice thread...
OT: i can't see a trace of kabuto left...

 

[KidGamer65]

Your making two statements here:

-When you show me Kabuto having these guys' DNA and him calling their souls to the pure world using the ritual, then Kabuto will have them in his arsenal.

-No proof that having Oro's DNA lets him get access to his Edo Zombies.

Statement 1: The ritual is already prepared through Orochimaru, why do I need to have evidence of Kabuto doing it, so Kabuto can acess it?

You have zero proof that having his DNA lets him access them.

Statement 2: Kabuto has injected peoples chakra/DNA into himself[

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]. Which shows he has access to all of their ninjutsu.

This tells me nothing.

Kabuto himself cannot summon Orochimaru's Edo Tensei, since he didnt do the ritual. But he can summon Orochimaru to access it, since he knows the hand seals to summon them

1. No proof that having Orochimaru's DNA lets him access his Edo Zombies. You keep repeating the same BS over and over again with no proof.

2. Orochimaru clone made from Orochimaru's DNA=/=The actual Orochimaru who summoned those guys AFTER Kabuto had assimilated his DNA. Knowing Hand signs is irrelevant as you still have no proof having Orochimaru's DNA lets him access the Edo Zombies that Orochimaru has.

3. No proof that a contract between Edo and summoner is transferable through DNA like a normal Summoning Contract is.

4. Whatever contract Orochimaru has now, obviously Kabuto won't get it from taking in his DNA since Orochimaru obtained the contract AFTER Kabuto had taken in his DNA.


Like I said, feats or nothing.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

You have zero proof that having his DNA lets him access them.

I gave you proof. It came down to your own reasoning.

This tells me nothing.

This was suppose to tell you that the DNA he is accessing work as exact duplicates as the original users

1. No proof that having Orochimaru's DNA lets him access his Edo Zombies. You keep repeating the same BS over and over again with no proof.

Duplicate DNA Kabuto created has never shown to nerf it's orignal, in fact Kabuto Senjutsu improved it them.

2. Orochimaru clone made from Orochimaru's DNA=/=The actual Orochimaru who summoned those guys AFTER Kabuto had assimilated his DNA. Knowing Hand signs is irrelevant as you still have no proof having Orochimaru's DNA lets him access the Edo Zombies that Orochimaru has.

1.Except the DNA reaches the original's peak through Senjutsu.
2. Kabuto messed with all the DNA's he had used. Which he even made Madara use Hashirama's cells at its peak

3. No proof that a contract between Edo and summoner is transferable through DNA like a normal Summoning Contract is.

That made no sense. He isn't transferring he is making the original user, use it.

4. Whatever contract Orochimaru has now, obviously Kabuto won't get it from taking in his DNA since Orochimaru obtained the contract AFTER Kabuto had taken in his DNA.

The DNA follows Orochimaru's will and conscience, stated many time. If Orochimaru's hands are sealed, then anyone who has Orochimaru's conscience and will also have his hands sealed. Vise versa.

Like I said, feats or nothing.

Or I can gives common sense instead of Kishimoto drawing it to make it believable.

 

[A v i]

Whether he can summon EDO's or not Kabuto ain't winning this.

 

[KidGamer65]

Duplicate DNA Kabuto created has never shown to nerf it's orignal, in fact Kabuto Senjutsu improved it them.

Them being nerfed or not is irrelevant.

1.Except the DNA reaches the original's peak through Senjutsu.

Again, irrelevant.

2. Kabuto messed with all the DNA's he had used. Which he even made Madara use Hashirama's cells at its peak

Having Hashirama's DNA means he has the rest as well? Lmao. Stop.

That made no sense. He isn't transferring he is making the original user, use it.

Uh, no, he's not.

The DNA follows Orochimaru's will and conscience, stated many time. If Orochimaru's hands are sealed, then anyone who has Orochimaru's conscience and will also have his hands sealed. Vise versa.

Wrong. Orochimaru's DNA and Conscience have never been stated to be linked.

Or I can gives common sense instead of Kishimoto drawing it to make it believable.

Common sense=/blatant wank. Please take the blatant the wank elsewhere.

 

[Conspirator.]

@Ejblack
I really hope you don't think kabuto actually wins.......

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Them being nerfed or not is irrelevant.

It is relevant when you made the claim that Kabuto cannot use the same thing the original can.

Again, irrelevant.

Same as above

Having Hashirama's DNA means he has the rest as well? Lmao. Stop.

Hashirama cells were the only ones that was stated to be hard to manipulate, harness, and control. Right?

Where was this stated for Kimmimaro, Tayuya, Jirobo, Kidomaru, and Sakon. Where was this stated from Orochimaru? Oh wait, Kabuto progress showed he can.

Uh, no, he's not.

Uh yes. You pulled that statement out of you ass just to make an argument, when even Manga disagrees that Edo summonings works different then summoning in general.

Manga disagrees.

Part 1 databook: A sinful summoning technique, resurrecting a deceased person back into this world. It uses a living human sacrifice as a vessel to hold the deceased in this world. The sacrifice the deceased descents in, is covered by a shroud of dust in the shape the deceased's body had in life. The technique itself, because it's a kinjutsu that's too inhuman, had it's existence concealed...

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No such thing as a different contract if one user's DNA had applied the contract.

Wrong. Orochimaru's DNA and Conscience have never been stated to be linked.

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[Brother Numpsay]

@Ejblack
I really hope you don't think kabuto actually wins.......

Nope. I just think with Edo's the same scenarios can be played like against Juubito (If Madara plays around like he uselessly do)

 

[SIX PATHZ]

kabuto is lucky if he can hv a time for edo. ether way madara is too strong

 

[Nagato The Sage]

Madara murks

 

[Rama Saravanan]

kabuto wont win or lose.edo is the strongest jutsu.but i know madara has the upperhand.this may be a draw.