Can Gai Break Susanno

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

Gai is strong, but please, it's Madara

 

[shelke]

The black Orbs simply cancel Ninjutsu that's it. Them having any other property seems pretty ludicrous to me, when the manga has not stated so. Also, stating that Gai is anywhere near Hashirama and EMS Madara just because he drilled into the soft ground is such a gigantic pile of nonsense that I don't know what to say. PS's attacks are mountain busting, for god sake. This has yet to top Kirin even - it looks vastly inferior.

V2 is all I'll give him. That's it. Also, he didn't even dent Madara's skin, just like Kisame was not affected. As I keep saying and this chapter confirmed, this is simply air pressure. Drilling and breaking apart mountains to bits is infinitely more superior to drilling into the soft ground.

I expected more from 8th Gate, honestly.

Actually, your hyperbole doesn't change anything. Susanoo didn't influence any Rasengan, only the Sennin-Mode and Bijū-Mode, but even Madaras Uchiwa could counter Narutos Bijū-Dama.


Madara said: "We are Edo Tensei, we have got nothing to worry about." That's no evidence, Draegod-san.
You declare on your own facts.
Were Mokujin no Jutsu and Kanzentai Susanoo really destroyed? If you could show me such panel, I woudn't dare to say anything more.
Yes, maybe they were destroyed, but actual that's no fact, right?

Anyway, I think Guy can't destroy a complete Susanoo and you have another standpoint. I guess, we can't convince each other, but that's all right. Have a nice day, Draegod-san. :3

I completely agree.

 

[To Whatever]

The black Orbs simply cancel Ninjutsu that's it. Them having any other property seems pretty ludicrous to me, when the manga has not stated so. Also, stating that Gai is anywhere near Hashirama and EMS Madara just because he drilled into the soft ground is such a gigantic pile of nonsense that I don't know what to say. PS's attacks are mountain busting, for god sake. This has yet to top Kirin even - it looks vastly inferior.

V2 is all I'll give him. That's it. Also, he didn't even dent Madara's skin, just like Kisame was not affected. As I keep saying and this chapter confirmed, this is simply air pressure. Drilling and breaking apart mountains to bits is infinitely more superior to drilling into the soft ground.

I expected more from 8th Gate, honestly.

Soft ground? Have you ever gotten in a fight and been slammed? The ground isnt soft, it sure as hell isnt soft at that depth.

Reread 507 page 2-3 about that kisame part. He wasnt hit with the full hirudora

You're trolling.

 

[shelke]

^ Look at the comparisons. What is more impressive and has produced more devastating force - an attack that drilled into a soft ground, or an attack that rent a mountain asunder? How deep was it to drill open earth's inner crust? You serious with this?

I have re-read and made contributions to that thread by Touken as well. It's just a shock-wave. It losing its intensity is nonsensical at best. The radius of the shock-waves from the attack made on Madara's Susano'o and on Kisame are exactly the same. The latest chapter proves that it's just air pressure and nothing more.

Not really. Colour me disappointed.

 

[Exaar]

an attack that drilled into a soft ground,

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Seriously where are you pulling this "Soft ground" nonsense from?

 

[shelke]

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It seems sandy, definitely not at the level of a mountain that's nothing but hard stone.

It isn't nonsense, just basic perception.

 

[Exaar]

It isn't nonsense, just basic perception.

No it is nonsense.
How it looks or seems doesn't mean anything in the world of Manga/Anime.

 

[Hokage Jay]

If Tsunade can and she is Kage level and It clearly states several time that it passes even Kages

 

[Sageflash]

Gai doesn't just break Susano'o, he absolutely trashes it.

 

[schmeckie]

8th gate gai would wreck PS, 7th gate is debateable

 

[To Whatever]

^ Look at the comparisons. What is more impressive and has produced more devastating force - an attack that drilled into a soft ground, or an attack that rent a mountain asunder? How deep was it to drill open earth's inner crust? You serious with this?

I have re-read and made contributions to that thread by Touken as well. It's just a shock-wave. It losing its intensity is nonsensical at best. The radius of the shock-waves from the attack made on Madara's Susano'o and on Kisame are exactly the same. The latest chapter proves that it's just air pressure and nothing more.

Not really. Colour me disappointed.

Considering that it isn't a giant chakra entity that dwarfs most of the nv and instead is one man doing it witb his bare fist, it is more impressive.

It doesnt matter what is impressive to you or myself, but to claim that the ground is sandy is utter bullshit.

Ill give you the benefit of doubt and say the top is sandy, not even a quater of the way, the ground would be hard as fk.

You're trying to say gai punched him through a cloud or mud.

 

[Ultimateone]

when he is using the eight gate he is as strong if not stronger than hashi, but the fact he dies brings him down in the end. from what we have seen this chap, he can indeed break sasuno, all versions. people forget all you really need to do is hit susano with enough force and it break, and when that force is continues susano is gonna be obliterated.

 

[Omnislash X SageMode]

i said i thought.

thats better than saying that the water slowed down the attack.

that kid said the attack was slowed.

all i said was that kisame tanked it reguardless if it was slowed

..you thought wrong? and it doesnt really matter what kid said...you posted the thread im just questioning your logic here not his.

I guess kisame did tank his attack...whats important here is Gai in 8 gates would be /should be able to punch thru susano V3 (Possible PS but im not really concerned about that)

7 gate and 8 gate is a pretty big difference considering the latest chapter..you think kisame is gonna tank a 8 gate attack with gai's intent to kill?
...#Nahcuz

 

[Omnislash X SageMode]

Punch thru/ break susanoo is what i mean exactly..

 

[Champ]

Perfect? No, Yata? No

 

[elsepa]

Perfect? No, Yata? No

Gai beats Sasuke with negative difficult

 

[To Whatever]

Perfect? No, Yata? No

Yata isnt even a factor in 8 gates. Hed break everything but that lol.

He'd fk sasuke's ps up as it couldnt handle obito's slam.

The only susanoo that matters is madaras ps

 

[Behemoth55]

Reread 507 page 2-3 about that kisame part. He wasnt hit with the full hirudora

Maybe Guy compressed the air even further? Kisame said his Jutsu coudn't absorb the power of Hirudora.
Ok, lets compare both cases:

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Well, Hirudora released it's power in front of Kisame(the blast displaced also the water) and he survived.
Is there any significant difference between both uses of Hirudora? What do you think about it?

 

[AlphaScythian]

I dont think Night elephant is good enough to take out v3.
Its air pressure, basically vectored explosion blast and susanoo tanked TBBs and tenpenchi no diff.

Direct hit most likely takes out v3 but i have my doubts about PS.

 

[Bantos]

What is this shit about Gai already breaking susanoo?