[VS] Hashirama and Hiruzen vs Tobirama and Minato

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Intel:anime/Manga
Intent:kill
Restrictions:Edo tensei, reaper death seal
Location: final valley

I think hiruzen and hashi win mid to high diff
 

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Minato and Tobirama win this.
 

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Edo Tensei is restricted, so yes. Unless of course Minato dies minutes after.

OT: Base Hashirama mid-high diff.

I thought he was talking about just tobiramas jutsu, and any form of minato can be used in vs threads because he has the feats for the. Not like we haven't seen alive minato with Kurama vs threads before.
 

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I thought he was talking about just tobiramas jutsu, and any form of minato can be used in vs threads because he has the feats for the. Not like we haven't seen alive minato with Kurama vs threads before.

Unless it says edo Minato or specifies that a fan fiction alive Minato is being used, he does not have the kyuubi. Even if he had BM, SM Hashirama wins high diff.
 

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Unless it says edo Minato or specifies that a fan fiction alive Minato is being used, he does not have the kyuubi. Even if he had BM, SM Hashirama wins high diff.

Just like your fan fiction Edo fodders right
 

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Just like your fan fiction Edo fodders right

*actually used edos whilst alive
*confirmed by five or more people

>You assume they have been sealed, when never hinted in the manga
>In the very same manga it shows minato has a rough time with the kyuubi chakra at first and dies shortly after

Keep it up. You are great at this.
 

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^I think they were sealed, within Kin and Gin's gourd that's about to be cracked open.

OT:This is literally Tobirama vs Hiruzen and Hashirama. Why would you add the second weakest Hokage to Tobirama's side?

Tobirama would have to use all eight gates so this is a stalemate. Can his medical ninjutsu overcome this? I don't know, tbh.
 
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^I think they were sealed, within Kin and Gin's gourd that's about to be cracked open.

OT:This is literally Tobirama vs Hiruzen and Hashirama. Why would you add the second weakest Hokage to Tobirama's side?

Tobirama would have to use all eight gates so this is a stalemate.

I doubt you would be able to absorb the edos if they are blowing up. Gojo Kibaku Fuda is how Tobirama died, confirmed by Madara. That means he used edo tensei in the final fight of his life, and his death resulting from Gojo, so how would anyone get close enough to seal the edos during the explosion?
 

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*actually used edos whilst alive
*confirmed by five or more people

>You assume they have been sealed, when never hinted in the manga
>In the very same manga it shows minato has a rough time with the kyuubi chakra at first and dies shortly after

Keep it up. You are great at this.
You keep it up with your imaginary Edo feats that we've never seen. At least with oro and Kabuto I can name you every Edo they've summoned. Tobirama not so much.
 

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Don't see how Team FTG wins this despite their speed. I think Hashirama and Hiruzen can keep up with their close range tai and are at least smart enough to know how to counter FTG.
 

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You keep it up with your imaginary Edo feats that we've never seen. At least with oro and Kabuto I can name you every Edo they've summoned. Tobirama not so much.

They are not imaginary if it is backed up by the manga. :leaf:

If you have a problem take it up with kishi kid.
 

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I doubt you would be able to absorb the edos if they are blowing up. Gojo Kibaku Fuda is how Tobirama died, confirmed by Madara. That means he used edo tensei in the final fight of his life, and his death resulting from Gojo, so how would anyone get close enough to seal the edos during the explosion?

What if they got in first and sealed the Edoes right off the bat? You don't know how it went down.

If that were the case then how would any trace of the gold and silver brothers be left behind for them to be revived? Or the Sage weapons they possessed?
Madara confirmed what it was originally intended for, not how Tobirama died. Do you expect me to believe that Tobirama has Edoes still exploding to this day?

If even Hiruzen could evade the explosions then I have no doubt Tobirama would do the same, if he did fall to a Jutsu that destroyed the battlefield it certainly wasn't Kibakufuda.
 

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What if they got in first and sealed the Edoes right off the bat? You don't know how it went down.

If that were the case then how would any trace of the gold and silver brothers be left behind for them to be revived? Or the Sage weapons they possessed?
Madara confirmed what it was originally intended for, not how Tobirama died. Do you expect me to believe that Tobirama has Edoes still exploding to this day?

If even Hiruzen could evade the explosions then I have no doubt Tobirama would do the same, if he did fall to a Jutsu that destroyed the battlefield it certainly wasn't Kibakufuda.

There is always a chance that Tobirama didn't get off Gojō, but he said it himself as an edo, it was his first time using the technique as an edo.

V2 cloaks coupled with escaping the epicenter of the blast is one way. We saw the Juubi minions who got hit with Kibakufuda not incinerate or get tore in half, and their durability is not exactly great. If Tobirama was alive then it could be either or but I am leaning towards yes.

I concede on this point, even though he could have been out of chakra and not have been able to shunshin or hiraishin. There is always that possibility.
 

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senju's too strong and i aint een' talking bout tobirama.
 
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I'm guessing you mean Old Hiruzen and not Prime Hiruzen, right? Because Hashirama and Prime Hiruzen would be a slaughter.
 
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