Kabuto can easily solo Minato.

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So when Obito - who not only strapped explosives to his newly born son, but also kidnapped his wife and set the strongest Biju in the business on the village he was supposed to protect wasn't strong enough to push him to the limit? When the fight was "all about speed" (Minato's own words) Minato never thought Sage Mode's enhanced speed would help? Or is it that he couldn't maintain it, like shown.

I know what most logical people would assume, unless you're trying to tell me that Minato's friends and family weren't worth the effort.

I don't see how SM will improve FTG speed.........and Minato didn't have the time to enter it back then.
 

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Itachi reacted to Kabuto, heck owned Kabuto with superior reactions U_U

What tea leaves are you smoking bro? What did he react to? Scans, proof? You're spewing out shit from the other end.
 

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I don't see how SM will improve FTG speed.........and Minato didn't have the time to enter it back then.

Did I say FTG speed? Didn't have time when it took one panel?

I swear Bogard and FT are the only decent ones from your lot. Bogard's damage control is at least believable to some extent.
 

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What tea leaves are you smoking bro? What did he react to? Scans, proof? You're spewing out shit from the other end.

Re-read the manga U_U It's all there cba to put scans for the likes of you.
 

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Re-read the manga U_U It's all there cba to put scans for the likes of you.

That's what I thought.

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I've read the manga many times, no where in that battle does Itachi compare to Kabuto's speed.
 

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Did I say FTG speed? Didn't have time when it took one panel?

Minato counter for Obito was FTG show me where SM enhanced speed would give more advantage in the fight with Obito and still Minato deal with him without SM .
 

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So when Obito - who not only strapped explosives to his newly born son, but also kidnapped his wife and set the strongest Biju in the business on the village he was supposed to protect wasn't strong enough to push him to the limit? When the fight was "all about speed" (Minato's own words) Minato never thought Sage Mode's enhanced speed would help? Or is it that he couldn't maintain it, like shown.

I know what most logical people would assume, unless you're trying to tell me that Minato's friends and family weren't worth the effort.
minato was rushing and power/big attacks are not the way to defeat Obito (Gai made this very clear). Using feints or speed is the way to beat him, minato was already the fastest character alive and he had his FTG kunai scattered on the ground, what more did he need?

Minato then proceeded to rotfl stomp him low diff, so why on earth would he bother to enter sage mode against an inferior opponent that can't even match his base form. Sage mode wouldn't have changed the outcome of the fight.

Going into sage mode would have been silly because even though the outcome would remain the same (Obito would probably have been injured even more badly) he would have wasted precious time. The time he would have used to enter sage mode is the same time Kurama would have blown away Hiruzen and half the village if minato did not defeat Obito promptly and arrive to stop Kurama's attack.
 
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The only way to beat Kabuto was Izanami and even that is now out of the picture because he accepted himself. Minato does lose.
 

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Minato counter for Obito was FTG show me where SM enhanced speed would give more advantage in the fight with Obito and still Minato deal with him without SM .

Not worth my time.

minato was rushing and power/big attacks are not the way to defeat Obito (Gai made this very clear). Using feints or speed is the way to beat him, minato was already the fastest character alive and he had his FTG kunai scattered on the ground, what more did he need?

Minato then proceeded to rotfl stomp him low diff, so why on earth would he bother to enter sage mode against an inferior opponent that can't even match his base form. Sage mode wouldn't have changed the outcome of the fight.

So Minato was going easy? This is why no one takes you serious. Minato thought he was fighting Madara Uchiha himself, you don't need much more inclination than that.
 

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That's what I thought.

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I've read the manga many times, no where in that battle does Itachi compare to Kabuto's speed.

Biitch please

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reacted to direct attack

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whilst Sasuke shat, Itachi was on the move, already prepared with his counter

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Kabuto failed, thought Itachi was a sensor Lol

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Owned by Itachi U_U

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Itachi reacted perfectly but saved Sasuke [who had shat again] instead of himself.

Now Get Lost.
 

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Not worth my time.



So Minato was going easy? This is why no one takes you serious. Minato thought he was fighting Madara Uchiha himself, you don't need much more inclination than that.
Be quiet, how is it going easy when Minatos base form is already super strong.

Hashirama's didn't use sm against ems Madara until the very end, despite Madara using ps and susanoo. So what was Hashirama's waiting for, was he going easy too?

I already told you it's a waste of valuable time, especially in the situation minato was in. Why didn't Kakashi use kamui against kakuzu when he was struggling, I can't take you serious either. Since when is it a required to display all your jutsu and abilities in a battle?
 
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Minato thought he was fighting Madara Uchiha, and he was going easy on him. I mean, only his wife was about to kick the bucket and his son was next. Never mind Konoha's safety.
 

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Fails to actually address my point on numerous levels.

Guys, Minato's base mode is already super strong, he wins, how could I miss this obvious factor?
 

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Biitch please

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reacted to direct attack

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whilst Sasuke shat, Itachi was on the move, already prepared with his counter

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Kabuto failed, thought Itachi was a sensor Lol

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Owned by Itachi U_U

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Itachi reacted perfectly but saved Sasuke [who had shat again] instead of himself.

Now Get Lost.

lmao, how does any of that prove that Itachi is faster than Kabuto? In the first gif Itachi just moves away from Hakugeki, he doesn't dodge it or anything. In the second gif, Itachi was concerned protecting Sasuke from the start, that's got nothing to do with speed. In the third pic you prove my point, Kabuto easily dodged Itachi's slash it didn't even hurt him. If Itachi was faster then it would have it Kabuto full stop. And in the fourth pic, Kabuto says himself that he doesn't want to hurt Sasuke he's aiming to get Itachi back that's his main priority and Itachi doesn't give a shit about what happens to him because he's an Edo that can keep coming back.

Your argument is flawed. So just stop making a fool of yourself

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Minato thought he was fighting Madara Uchiha, and he was going easy on him. I mean, only his wife was about to kick the bucket and his son was next. Never mind Konoha's safety.

It's not about going easy, it's about being practical. He either goes sage mode wastes more time and kills Obito but at the expense of the villages demise.

Or he does the best he can with what he has in the shortest time, he didn't become Hokage because he relied in sm did he, his base powers are more than capable.

You guys are acting like Obito even scratched minato, the fight was over in 2 minutes tops.
 

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Haters complaining why he didn't used it , funny . What was the point tell me 1 more time since Minato defeated him.
 

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Minato thought he was fighting Madara Uchiha, and he was going easy on him. I mean, only his wife was about to kick the bucket and his son was next. Never mind Konoha's safety.

XD

Oh I am done. Did he really say Minato was going easy on him?!
 

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Minato's base form is already super strong. I have seen the light. The yellow flash would've beaten EMS Madara.
 
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