Tobirama is clearly that weak?

[Limbo]

Madara wields major plot shield tbh, first against his Amaterasu, and also it wasn't explained why Sasuke was paralized to the point not using anything. U_U

I sense butthurt.

Ot: Tobi aint weak, he went one on one against the strongest character in NV.

 

[the last shinobi]

A quick defeat don't suits Hokage and Tobirama owns that title, this is the second time that they defeat him that easily. First a bunch of fodders, now Madara without even being a jinchuuriki.

so its better taking a slow ass whipping like the fourth has been taking an arm lost here an arm lost there a body kicked through a sand wall...and that happen to him with help if anyone is weak its minato like the manga has shown in the last 15 chapters

 

[Valhorus]

so its better taking a slow ass whipping like the fourth has been taking an arm lost here an arm lost there a body kicked through a sand wall...and that happen to him with help if anyone is weak its minato like the manga has shown in the last 15 chapters

Dont compare the situation of Tobirama with Minato , Tobirama didnt went 1 on 1 vs Jubbi Jin that is the diff . If a lose from Juubi Jin make u weak then i don't know what a lose from Base Madara make u look like what ?

OT : Tobirama isn't weak everyone got beaten by Madara.

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Minato is simply being kicked around by Madara. Only reason Madara disabled Tobirama and not Minato is because Tobirama was a threat, and was for vengeance, whereas, Minato is nothing more than a yappy dog in Madara's eyes

 

[Avinash012]

Same Madara owned Sasuke without even trying,Do u consider Sasuke as a weak shinobi?

Minato is simply being kicked around by Madara. Only reason Madara disabled Tobirama and not Minato is because Tobirama was a threat, and was for vengeance, whereas, Minato is nothing more than a yappy dog in Madara's eyes

The amount of nonesense in this post is unreal. If Minato isn't a threat for Madara and so is Tobirama and Minato atleast has the ability to hurt that guy.

 

[Valhorus]

Minato is simply being kicked around by Madara. Only reason Madara disabled Tobirama and not Minato is because Tobirama was a threat, and was for vengeance, whereas, Minato is nothing more than a yappy dog in Madara's eyes

I don't understand why ppl are comparing Tobirama's situation and Minato's one ? Do u even noticed that Minato went against Juubi Jin ? Or u just want to ignore that fact ?

 

[MinaButt]

I don't understand why ppl are comparing Tobirama's situation and Minato's one ? Do u even noticed that Minato went against Juubi Jin ? Or u just want to ignore that fact ?

I don't understand it either. The op isnt even a fan of Minato lol

 

[WithDemonsToLeanOn]

Then the Kages are weak, Hashirama is weak, Tobirama is weak, Sasuke and Naruto are weak... So on and so on.

It's the fact that they're up against Madara. That's what is all is.

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Same Madara owned Sasuke without even trying,Do u consider Sasuke as a weak shinobi?



The amount of nonesense in this post is unreal. If Minato isn't a threat for Madara and so is Tobirama and Minato atleast has the ability to hurt that guy.

Last I saw, Minato's Senjutsu was garbage. Mangafact. Minato even said so himself.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Last I saw, Minato's Senjutsu was garbage. Mangafact. Minato even said so himself.

Garbage are your own words, not what was written in the manga.

Jiraya still has the worst senjutsu mastery, take away Fukasaku and Shima and his sage mode is nothing.

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Garbage are your own words, not what was written in the manga.

Jiraya still has the worst senjutsu mastery, take away Fukasaku and Shima and his sage mode is nothing.

SMH..Did you miss when Minato admitted that he had never use his senjutsu and implied that he was bad at it? Yea, he didn't literally say those words, but im sure you read the implications, unless you are just another blind Minato fapboy. Jiraya had better use of his sage mode than Minato displayed

 

[Gold Lightning]

SMH..Did you miss when Minato admitted that he had never use his senjutsu and implied that he was bad at it? Yea, he didn't literally say those words, but im sure you read the implications, unless you are just another blind Minato fapboy. Jiraya had better use of his sage mode than Minato displayed

Actually he said he's hardly used his sage mode in battle. Meaning he has, just not a lot. Yes jiraya has shown better use of it only because of Ma and Pa, if minato summons both of them then he becomes the best senjutsu user. We saw 1 panel of Minatos sage mode against the strongest being in the manga so you trying to compare jiraya sage mode when we haven't even seem enough of Minatos means nothing really.

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Actually he said he's hardly used his sage mode in battle. Meaning he has, just not a lot. Yes jiraya has shown better use of it only because of Ma and Pa, if minato summons both of them then he becomes the best senjutsu user. We saw 1 panel of Minatos sage mode against the strongest being in the manga so you trying to compare jiraya sage mode when we haven't even seem enough of Minatos means nothing really.

According to what we have seen and mangafact, not your speculation.

Kabuto, Naruto, Madara, and Hashirama are the top tier sagemode users
Jiraya is mid tier
Minato is low tier

All Minato has shown is to use one single senjutsu rasnegan, Kakashi was about to comment on it saying that his sagemode wasn't that reliable, but Minato beat him to it. He also stated it takes him a while to enter it, and he has never used it IN BATTLE. So he has no special techs other than Rasengan, whereas, Naruto, Jiraya, and Kabuto have displayed multiple sage abilities.
Also, Yea, Jiraya needs ma & pa, but together, they make a powerful sagemode, far more powerful than Minato's

 

[Valhorus]

According to what we have seen and mangafact, not your speculation.

Kabuto, Naruto, Madara, and Hashirama are the top tier sagemode users
Jiraya is mid tier
Minato is low tier

All Minato has shown is to use one single senjutsu rasnegan, Kakashi was about to comment on it saying that his sagemode wasn't that reliable, but Minato beat him to it. He also stated it takes him a while to enter it, and he has never used it IN BATTLE. So he has no special techs other than Rasengan, whereas, Naruto, Jiraya, and Kabuto have displayed multiple sage abilities.
Also, Yea, Jiraya needs ma & pa, but together, they make a powerful sagemode, far more powerful than Minato's

Minato can fuse with Ma and Pa easily . Go reread the manga he said he didn't used it much in battler he never said the word "NEVER".

 

[Gold Lightning]

According to what we have seen and mangafact, not your speculation.

Kabuto, Naruto, Madara, and Hashirama are the top tier sagemode users
Jiraya is mid tier
Minato is low tier

All Minato has shown is to use one single senjutsu rasnegan, Kakashi was about to comment on it saying that his sagemode wasn't that reliable, but Minato beat him to it. He also stated it takes him a while to enter it, and he has never used it IN BATTLE. So he has no special techs other than Rasengan, whereas, Naruto, Jiraya, and Kabuto have displayed multiple sage abilities.
Also, Yea, Jiraya needs ma & pa, but together, they make a powerful sagemode, far more powerful than Minato's

I know Hashirama's, Kabuto, Naruto have better sage mode, but not jiraya. Anyone can fuse with Ma and Pa.

We only saw a glimpse of Minatos sage mode so why are you talking to me about his capabilities when we haven't even seen enough feats yet. Jiraya and Naruto have had lots more screen time to show off their abilities so your comparisons are pointless to me. Minato is a better senjutsu user than jiraya. If minato uses the toads then he becomes even better, at least minato can use it without them. Jiraya cannot which is pretty poor, so if the toads get killed in battle then he is screwed.

I'm not speculating anything, you're the one who said he's never used his senjutsu and you're the one who said he's garbage at it which he never said. So don't talk to me about speculation when you make up your own facts... Hypocrite

 

[TheLastSensei]

Sasuke must be weak. Madara solo'd him. Madara also solo'd minato, tsunade, naruto, and most of the shinobi that was alive at the start of the war.. Anyone remember when madara made two meteors fall out the sky?

 

[Avinash012]

Last I saw, Minato's Senjutsu was garbage. Mangafact. Minato even said so himself.

Lol,Tobirama can't even use that garbage to be a threat for Madara & I want the scan where Minato said that his senjutsu is garbage.I'll say this again I want the scan of Minato where he said that his senjutsu is "Garbage."

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Lol,Tobirama can't even use that garbage to be a threat for Madara & I want the scan where Minato said that his senjutsu is garbage.I'll say this again I want the scan of Minato where he said that his senjutsu is "Garbage."

WOW..of course he didn't use the literal term. smh. What the heck is wrong with you, there are seeral different ways of saying things, garbage is another term that can be used to describe something that is lacking in quality.

ANYWAY. Here is a scan where Minato states that he isn't good at senjutsu, and that he has NEVER REALLY used it in an ACTUAL fight.

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[Gold Lightning]

WOW..of course he didn't use the literal term. smh. What the heck is wrong with you, there are seeral different ways of saying things, garbage is another term that can be used to describe something that is lacking in quality.

ANYWAY. Here is a scan where Minato states that he isn't good at senjutsu, and that he has NEVER REALLY used it in an ACTUAL fight.

You must be registered for see links

Bis translation > the scan you provided

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Bis translation > the scan you provided

Okay
, so then provide me with the VIZ scan then.