[VS] Killer Bee Versus MS Sasuke

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not to mention the OP handicapped bee with the location. Why would bee randomly fire bijuudama and destroy his home?
This is full bloodlust Sasuke and Bee.
 

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Oh I remember you, lol. There's literally no point in arguing since you're a sasuke fanboy & can't accept logic, but oh well..

i was counter this in a set way but its not needed as your post was a load of Bs anyways lemme make this quick you dwelled on the fact bee escape amaterasu once it was because of karin as i said before if karin wasit there bee would have been left to burn you see he clearly cut it because of her

So what if karin was there or not? Do you not get the point of my post at all?? Bee made it so that sasuke had to cut it off. Killerbee took advantage of sasuke's situation in order to get him to cut the tentacle. Bee went for karin because he wanted sasuke to cut it off.

Karin was useless, but what would sasuke do if bee used a whirlwind & cut his tentacle off during or after the move? Still completely plausible, bee just took that opportunity with karin to force sasuke into doing what he did. There is nothing which implies that bee couldn't have escaped if karin wasn't there, it was simply the most convenient method of escape without arousing suspicion.

now you repeated this a thousand times (It didnt work once so it wont work no more plus be knows about it) There's a handful of ninja knows about kakashi's kamui now but he can still warp them no problem same for obito why is that because they're to slow to do anything about it

Lel again so what?? If they have info or not it doesn't change the fact that ama failed to put down this character in canon.

That's like saying kakashi can still kamui obito even though he failed to do so.

That's like saying tsunade can still destroy susano even though she failed to do so.

That's like saying sasuke can still amaterasu the juubi, even though he failed to do so.

You're using a failed example as evidence, hardly worth mentioning & I'm really starting to question whether I should take you seriously or not.

i hope your not applying that v2 bee can dodge amaterasu? Ptsk Amaterasu lights him up in anyform.

Chakra shroud protects bee as he charges for a lariat.

Susanoo arrow crucifies his cloaked forms or even a simple ration varient kakashi was shown chopping through higher cloaked forms like it was nothing so doing that is suicide

Sasuke isnt activating susanoo & setting up an arrow before bee goes bijuu mode & launches a tbb.

Even if bee gets hit by one or two arrows it won't matter as bee has endured much worse than that. [ ] [ ]

Susanoo leads to BM, which leads to sasuke's defeat.

& Btw yes, bee can transform into a bijuu & charge a tbb just as fast if not faster than sasuke can activate his susanoo. [ ]

& Lol raikiri =/= chidori, saying that sasuke can cut bee's V2 mode based on kakashi's feats is laughable.

also your wind thing blew my mind the momment his ama comes in contact with the wind this happens

Such sh*t, doesn't even counter my post which not only proves that ama won't stick to bee but also proves that the wind will protect bee from the attack.

The fire will engulf the wind, not bee. Bee is safe as the spinning will remove any ama on his person & launch the ama that's trapped in the vortex every which way.

clearly see right there fire>wind so it wont be blown back if that was the case the rasenshuriken would have blown it back such a fool saying he uses whirlwind lmao Next.

Lmfao just because fire > wind doesnt mean that wind can't counter fire, you sound extremely moronic.

Wind increases fire, any fire that gets caught in the vortex will act the same, which means it will get blown away.

Your logic suggests that the wind created from the vortex will simply stop rotating, & catch on fire. Lol
 

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bee gets shit on with almost any form of susanoo if he isn't full hachibi

Tbbs then sh*t.

you can't apply real world logic to black fire than can't be put out and can be formed into weapons.

Excuse, I already showed you that ama doesnt stick to its target it simply burns it. Therefore fire logic applies to it.

Can you create dragons out of water? No, but the water is still water. Ama is never-ending fire, that's it. It doesnt have any special properties which allow it to stick to objects unless you can prove it.

Obviously real-world logic gets thrown out the window in some cases, but here you're blatantly ignoring the manga.

sasuke in fact does have intel on tentacle subs as unorthodox pointed out, and even if bee removed all his limbs, sasuke could just go and quickly slay them all with susanoo.

I noticed, but how fast do you think sasuke is? Lol by the time he reaches one of the tentacles bee is already out & ready for attack, he won't waste time & sit while sasuke attacks all eight tentacles.

do you have any feats of amaterasu being moved without the sruface its on being moved? if not then it would stick to bee

@Bold: This question makes absolutely no sense, every single surface that ama has been used on can move. I gave you proof of ama drooping off of gaara's sand, therefore it can be removed from a surface, whether that surface can move or not it doesnt matter as ama holds the same properties as a fire that won't extinguish, nothing more.

Stating that ama is anything other than fire is laughable, fire can be moved from surface to surface, ama is no different.

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Clearly knows about the tentacle

I already asked for the scan, It's not bs as I was genuinely asking if sasuke knew of this trick...

It's obvious that you're upset over something, please finish crying then come talk to me.
 

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Oh I remember you, lol. There's literally no point in arguing since you're a sasuke fanboy & can't accept logic, but oh well..



So what if karin was there or not? Do you not get the point of my post at all?? Bee made it so that sasuke had to cut it off. Killerbee took advantage of sasuke's situation in order to get him to cut the tentacle. Bee went for karin because he wanted sasuke to cut it off.

Karin was useless, but what would sasuke do if bee used a whirlwind & cut his tentacle off during or after the move? Still completely plausible, bee just took that opportunity with karin to force sasuke into doing what he did. There is nothing which implies that bee couldn't have escaped if karin wasn't there, it was simply the most convenient method of escape without arousing suspicion.



Lel again so what?? If they have info or not it doesn't change the fact that ama failed to put down this character in canon.

That's like saying kakashi can still kamui obito even though he failed to do so.

That's like saying tsunade can still destroy susano even though she failed to do so.

That's like saying sasuke can still amaterasu the juubi, even though he failed to do so.

You're using a failed example as evidence, hardly worth mentioning & I'm really starting to question whether I should take you seriously or not.



Chakra shroud protects bee as he charges for a lariat.



Sasuke isnt activating susanoo & setting up an arrow before bee goes bijuu mode & launches a tbb.

Even if bee gets hit by one or two arrows it won't matter as bee has endured much worse than that. [ ] [ ]

Susanoo leads to BM, which leads to sasuke's defeat.

& Btw yes, bee can transform into a bijuu & charge a tbb just as fast if not faster than sasuke can activate his susanoo. [ ]

& Lol raikiri =/= chidori, saying that sasuke can cut bee's V2 mode based on kakashi's feats is laughable.



Such sh*t, doesn't even counter my post which not only proves that ama won't stick to bee but also proves that the wind will protect bee from the attack.

The fire will engulf the wind, not bee. Bee is safe as the spinning will remove any ama on his person & launch the ama that's trapped in the vortex every which way.



Lmfao just because fire > wind doesnt mean that wind can't counter fire, you sound extremely moronic.

Wind increases fire, any fire that gets caught in the vortex will act the same, which means it will get blown away.

Your logic suggests that the wind created from the vortex will simply stop rotating, & catch on fire. Lol

you have literally no evidence to suggest bee was thinking coherently. Come back with some proof, until then its just chance.

If failed due to circumstance. This time sasuke has noone to get distracted by, and has intel on bee's limb removal. You're the one who is starting to sound like a fanboy.

you act as if people using a chakra shroud feel no pain. KCM naruto proves that false.

you're argument that bee wouldn't die from an arrow is foolish as well. Land mines undoubtedly stronger than a bow and arrow.

People have sruvived land mines and died via bow and arrow. Your argument that bee wouldnt' die from a piercing attack is fiction. Clearly his skin isn't that strong

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an arrow to the face is GG

this isn't kaiten. this is actual bee spinning, not his chakra. Every time it touches him it would do damage.

Its not like ama doesn't spawn. it would already be on bee before he spins.
 

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Oh I remember you, lol. There's literally no point in arguing since you're a sasuke fanboy & can't accept logic, but oh well..

so should i say the same for you when your debating obito? anyways im a sasuke fan not fanboy hugh difference <--------~ BR~
So what if karin was there or not? Do you not get the point of my post at all?? Bee made it so that sasuke had to cut it off. Killerbee took advantage of sasuke's situation in order to get him to cut the tentacle. Bee went for karin because he wanted sasuke to cut it off.
Karin was useless, but what would sasuke do if bee used a whirlwind & cut his tentacle off during or after the move? Still completely plausible, bee just took that opportunity with karin to force sasuke into doing what he did. There is nothing which implies that bee couldn't have escaped if karin wasn't there, it was simply the most convenient method of escape without arousing suspicion.
Lel again so what?? If they have info or not it doesn't change the fact that ama failed to put down this character in canon.

You act as if bee was did it on purpose he was screaming and squealing like a pig karin just happend to be there dont make it seem like he did it on purpose this is all speculation he gets to do the whirlwind before amaterasu ends him also i geuss sasuke using amaterasu on the samurai guy is useless to because it failed to killed him the first time what a load of bs lmao how many times has naruto failed to take someone down with rasengan but at the end of the fight they always go down with rasengan tsk cant belive your basing you hole argument off that this is to easy really


That's like saying kakashi can still kamui obito even though he failed to do so.

mute point because obito also has kamui and can counter it himself without someone saving him and even if he could kamui obito he would just kamui himself back dont know why you even brought that up

That's like saying tsunade can still destroy susano even though she failed to do so.

Tsunade can still destroy a ribcage susanoo anyother form of susanoo she cant this doesnt come close to what we was talking i mean its like she was in danger or killing or getting killed again dont know why you even brought it up

That's like saying sasuke can still amaterasu the juubi, even though he failed to do so.

Know it isnt sasuke can still hit juubi with amaterasu but unlike killerbee the juubi doesnt need anyone's assist for surviving it because it counterd it itself

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ou're using a failed example as evidence, hardly worth mentioning & I'm really starting to question whether I should take you seriously or not.
Chakra shroud protects bee as he charges for a lariat.
Sasuke isnt activating susanoo & setting up an arrow before bee goes bijuu mode & launches a tbb.
Even if bee gets hit by one or two arrows it won't matter as bee has endured much worse than that. [ ] [ ]
Susanoo leads to BM, which leads to sasuke's defeat.
& Btw yes, bee can transform into a bijuu & charge a tbb just as fast if not faster than sasuke can activate his susanoo. [ ]
& Lol raikiri =/= chidori, saying that sasuke can cut bee's V2 mode based on kakashi's feats is laughable.
Such sh*t, doesn't even counter my post which not only proves that ama won't stick to bee but also proves that the wind will protect bee from the attack.
The fire will engulf the wind, not bee. Bee is safe as the spinning will remove any ama on his person & launch the ama that's trapped in the vortex every which way.
Lmfao just because fire > wind doesnt mean that wind can't counter fire, you sound extremely moronic.
Wind increases fire, any fire that gets caught in the vortex will act the same, which means it will get blown away.
Your logic suggests that the wind created from the vortex will simply stop rotating, & catch on fire. Lol

You dont have to take me serious it doesnt matter if you do or dont just know your getting schooled your not making sense first you say chakra shroud protects him whiles he's charging lariate then you say tbbs blow him away before he could use susanoo if bee is charging the lariate sasuke could easily use his susanoo but anyways amaterasu shits on the chakra shroud as it cannot shed the chakra shroud makes other body parts like this It always stays attached to the main body so hitting that would kill him also didnt kakashi teach sasuke raikiri/chidori all the same and im not giving him kakashi feats just saying if his ration could do it sasuke could as well you keep saying this whirlwind when its completely useless everytime in the manga we seen fire expands when it touches wind rather it blows or suck same thing applies to killerbee weather you want to belive it of not use whirlwind his swirls himself in a whirlwind of Amaterasu witch englufs his hole body at once amaterasu does infact stick that scan you posted gaara just let his sand fall apart amaterasu didnt fall off

it took me to long i was doing something also this is my last post for today so if you counter ill reply back tomarrow
 

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you have literally no evidence to suggest bee was thinking coherently. Come back with some proof, until then its just chance.

Bee has been shown to act under pressure before. [ ]

Saying bee didn't plan for sasuke to cut off the tentacle is much less likely than bee actually planning it, because not only does it sound foolish to call it a fluke, but gyuki isn't an idiot.

If failed due to circumstance. This time sasuke has noone to get distracted by, and has intel on bee's limb removal. You're the one who is starting to sound like a fanboy.

Circumstance? Bee escaped it, no other way to look at it. Sasuke used ama, bee escaped. Why is this so hard for you to comprehend??

So what if there are distractions or not? Bee was still able to escape, it's not like sasuke can stop bee from cutting off his tentacles.

Bee has counters to ama, stop denying.

you act as if people using a chakra shroud feel no pain. KCM naruto proves that false.

You mean when KCM naruto got burned by lava? First of all lava is lava so it burns more quickly than fire, secondly naruto's KCM cloak is not bee's cloak, & naruto cant use extra bones/tails for protection.

V2 Mode uses more chakra for protection, it is thicker unless you believe that naruto's thin chakra cloak comes close to bee's thickness otherwise. If that were true then we wouldn't see any of naruto's features, unlike bee who undergoes a full transformation while in V2. [ ]

Naruto's BM tails laugh at katon, this is proof that the only thing needed in order to stop katon or high level katon is high amounts of chakra, which can easily be produced by bee.

you're argument that bee wouldn't die from an arrow is foolish as well. Land mines undoubtedly stronger than a bow and arrow.

Lol, An arrow won't kill gyuki who fought the 3rd raikage, known for his hell stab. Bee has been through more than enough piercing attacks, they don't hurt him as much as the bijuudama did & he was still intact after that so saying that bee would die from an arrow is more than foolish.


People have sruvived land mines and died via bow and arrow. Your argument that bee wouldnt' die from a piercing attack is fiction. Clearly his skin isn't that strong

Proof? lol...

Show me someone who can tank a bijuudama & also show me that same person die from a bow & arrow.

Sorry but bee isn't dying from getting shot.

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Simply proving my point further, if bee's "weak" skin was able to protect him from a bomb then that same "weak" skin can protect him from a lethal blow.

By the way I don't see how using kokuo's feat helps you, kokuo is a bijuu & who knows what his horns are made out of? They can be diamond-plated for all we know [I know they're not but they can be made out of anything].

& I'm not saying that bee won't get pierced, not once did I state that. Bee will still continue to fight even after he's stabbed/pierced because he has survived much worse.

If you get shot you can still live for a while longer, when you explode you explode, that's it. Getting shot by an arrow doesn't do anything to change the outcome of the fight, a wounded killerbee simply fires off his barrage. If bee can survive an explosion then he can survive a petty arrow, lol.

an arrow to the face is GG

A bijuudama to the anywhere is GG...

See? I can be ignorant too. I already proved to you how using susanoo arrows won't work, nor will they be fast enough to do anything before bee launches his barrage. The same barrage which you cannot counter, & the same barrage which ends this thread & sasuke's life.

this isn't kaiten. this is actual bee spinning, not his chakra. Every time it touches him it would do damage.

Look at the massive crater that bee created from using the whirlwind. [ ] The wind is literally acting as a barrier, the ama will be blown away due to centripetal force as I already stated.

Its not like ama doesn't spawn. it would already be on bee before he spins.

The ama that's already on him will be blown off. Any ama that sasuke uses after gets blocked.
 

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you have literally no evidence to suggest bee was thinking coherently. Come back with some proof, until then its just chance.

If failed due to circumstance. This time sasuke has noone to get distracted by, and has intel on bee's limb removal. You're the one who is starting to sound like a fanboy.

you act as if people using a chakra shroud feel no pain. KCM naruto proves that false.

you're argument that bee wouldn't die from an arrow is foolish as well. Land mines undoubtedly stronger than a bow and arrow.

People have sruvived land mines and died via bow and arrow. Your argument that bee wouldnt' die from a piercing attack is fiction. Clearly his skin isn't that strong

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an arrow to the face is GG

this isn't kaiten. this is actual bee spinning, not his chakra. Every time it touches him it would do damage.

Its not like ama doesn't spawn. it would already be on bee before he spins.

Agreed. Only morons think bee actually wins.
 

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Cutting and explosive attacks are not comparable.

The Hachibi is easily cut by Raiton, but is capable of withstanding a Bijuu bomb.
 

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so should i say the same for you when your debating obito? anyways im a sasuke fan not fanboy hugh difference <--------~ BR~

Wrong, you're being a fanboy, the fact that you think sasuke wins this with ama/susanoo arrows proves it.

You act as if bee was did it on purpose he was screaming and squealing like a pig karin just happend to be there dont make it seem like he did it on purpose this is all speculation

Gyuki isn't an idiot, assuming that he didn't plan for sasuke to cut off the tentacle is less likely & therefore it's false.

Bee was looking for a way to escape & he found it, simple.

he gets to do the whirlwind before amaterasu ends him

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also i geuss sasuke using amaterasu on the samurai guy is useless to because it failed to killed him the first time what a load of bs lmao

Kankuro saved the samurai, can the samurai do what kankuro did by himself? No, therefore the ama would work on him.

Seriously, How can you misinterpret my points this badly?! Lol

how many times has naruto failed to take someone down with rasengan but at the end of the fight they always go down with rasengan tsk cant belive your basing you hole argument off that this is to easy really

Naruto fails with rasengan against plenty of enemies but manages to land a hit in the end. If canon shows us that rasengan didnt work on an enemy then it won't work, stop trying to weasel your way out of this.

Bee has counters for ama, so it's not working. Just move on & create a strategy instead of trying to prove me wrong.

mute point because obito also has kamui and can counter it himself without someone saving him and even if he could kamui obito he would just kamui himself back dont know why you even brought that up

Doesn't matter as my point still stands. Kakashi failed to kamui obito so it isn't working in any matches with him, obito simply cancels it. Same situation with ama, bee counters it with the canon counter he has for it, so it's not working.

& By the way I have multiple points, I'm not basing my entire argument off of this, nice try. ;)

Tsunade can still destroy a ribcage susanoo anyother form of susanoo she cant this doesnt come close to what we was talking i mean its like she was in danger or killing or getting killed again dont know why you even brought it up

Not before madara roasts her via katon.

Tsunade has to punch susanoo, she failed to break it before she almost got killed, this proves that tsunade does not have what it takes to break susanoo before she gets killed. Therefore she failed & will always fail in the same way, unless you believe tsunade can now punch faster than madara can react.

Know it isnt sasuke can still hit juubi with amaterasu but unlike killerbee the juubi doesnt need anyone's assist for surviving it because it counterd it itself

Again you failed to address the point. Sasuke failed to use ama, therefore he can't use it on the juubi, as proven in canon.

All three of these examples still remain intact & you still remain unable to prove that ama will work a 2nd time when the first time was unsuccessful.

You dont have to take me serious it doesnt matter if you do or dont just know your getting schooled your not making sense

I find it funny how you sasuke fanboys are so deluded that you can't even see when you're wrong. :rolleyes:

first you say chakra shroud protects him whiles he's charging lariate then you say tbbs blow him away before he could use susanoo if bee is charging the lariate sasuke could easily use his susanoo

Chakra shroud does protect him. Lol

Tbbs do blow him away before he uses susanoo, I fail to see how my points don't make sense. Ama is countered, susanoo is countered, simple.

but anyways amaterasu shits on the chakra shroud as it cannot shed the chakra shroud makes other body parts like this It always stays attached to the main body so hitting that would kill him

Lol, Not only is this a kurama who wants to take over naruto but who said that the chakra can't be shed? Just because kurama can turn the chakra into whatever he wants doesn't mean that it can't be removed, lol.

Using a mindless 4-tail naruto to try & support your argument, lel.

also didnt kakashi teach sasuke raikiri/chidori all the same and im not giving him kakashi feats just saying if his ration could do it sasuke
could as well

No he can't stop giving kakashi's feats to sasuke.

Sasuke cannot use the same jutsu that kakashi used to cut the arms [lightning transmission]. Sasuke doesn't ave this jutsu so he doesnt have a chance at cutting anything that isn't gyuki's tail.

you keep saying this whirlwind when its completely useless everytime in the manga we seen fire expands when it touches wind rather it blows or suck same thing applies to killerbee weather you want to belive it of not use whirlwind his swirls himself in a whirlwind of Amaterasu witch englufs his hole body at once amaterasu does infact stick that scan you posted gaara just let his sand fall apart amaterasu didnt fall off

This post just proves the ignorance in your argument. Whirlwind blows off ama, I already proved why this is possible so enough of your scans showing wind. It isn't moving in a rotational pattern thus creating centripetal force.

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Bee has been shown to act under pressure before. [ ]

Saying bee didn't plan for sasuke to cut off the tentacle is much less likely than bee actually planning it, because not only does it sound foolish to call it a fluke, but gyuki isn't an idiot.



Circumstance? Bee escaped it, no other way to look at it. Sasuke used ama, bee escaped. Why is this so hard for you to comprehend??

So what if there are distractions or not? Bee was still able to escape, it's not like sasuke can stop bee from cutting off his tentacles.

Bee has counters to ama, stop denying.



You mean when KCM naruto got burned by lava? First of all lava is lava so it burns more quickly than fire, secondly naruto's KCM cloak is not bee's cloak, & naruto cant use extra bones/tails for protection.

V2 Mode uses more chakra for protection, it is thicker unless you believe that naruto's thin chakra cloak comes close to bee's thickness otherwise. If that were true then we wouldn't see any of naruto's features, unlike bee who undergoes a full transformation while in V2. [ ]

Naruto's BM tails laugh at katon, this is proof that the only thing needed in order to stop katon or high level katon is high amounts of chakra, which can easily be produced by bee.



Lol, An arrow won't kill gyuki who fought the 3rd raikage, known for his hell stab. Bee has been through more than enough piercing attacks, they don't hurt him as much as the bijuudama did & he was still intact after that so saying that bee would die from an arrow is more than foolish.




Proof? lol...

Show me someone who can tank a bijuudama & also show me that same person die from a bow & arrow.

Sorry but bee isn't dying from getting shot.



Simply proving my point further, if bee's "weak" skin was able to protect him from a bomb then that same "weak" skin can protect him from a lethal blow.

By the way I don't see how using kokuo's feat helps you, kokuo is a bijuu & who knows what his horns are made out of? They can be diamond-plated for all we know [I know they're not but they can be made out of anything].

& I'm not saying that bee won't get pierced, not once did I state that. Bee will still continue to fight even after he's stabbed/pierced because he has survived much worse.

If you get shot you can still live for a while longer, when you explode you explode, that's it. Getting shot by an arrow doesn't do anything to change the outcome of the fight, a wounded killerbee simply fires off his barrage. If bee can survive an explosion then he can survive a petty arrow, lol.



A bijuudama to the anywhere is GG...

See? I can be ignorant too. I already proved to you how using susanoo arrows won't work, nor will they be fast enough to do anything before bee launches his barrage. The same barrage which you cannot counter, & the same barrage which ends this thread & sasuke's life.



Look at the massive crater that bee created from using the whirlwind. [ ] The wind is literally acting as a barrier, the ama will be blown away due to centripetal force as I already stated.



The ama that's already on him will be blown off. Any ama that sasuke uses after gets blocked.

ama spawns wherever you look. sasuke could just look at all of bee's limbs and they would be set ablaze. Once on fire, even removal would spare bee.

bee has also never shwon to remove more than one at a time.

Sasuke shits all over v2 idk why i'm arguing about that anyway. Ama isn't even needed

You comparing a bomb blast to an arrow to the face is laughable. The arrow would pierce and kill. there would be no tanking. Tanking a bomb doesn't give himthe defensive feat to survie an arrow to the face.

you suggesting he launches 5 tbb before sasuke uses 1 arrow or amaterasu is laughable.

if you can blow ama off why didn't Ay spin really fast, or run really fast? once its burning it isn't coming off. Because its spawns, bee wouldn't be able to get it off before hes burning.

I fail to see how sasuke gets hit on a hawk from tbb barrage. Even the hachibi says he can't aim

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sasuke could just keep his distance and hed be fine
 

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ama spawns wherever you look. sasuke could just look at all of bee's limbs and they would be set ablaze. Once on fire, even removal would spare bee.

What sasuke are we talking about?? This isnt EMS sasuke, one ama shot hurts him. Sasuke isn't using ama as much as you like to believe without suffering as a result.

bee has also never shwon to remove more than one at a time.

Now you're restricting bee the option to cut his tentacles off? This doesn't make sense, bee can remove all of his tails if he wishes, there is nothing stopping him.

Sasuke shits all over v2 idk why i'm arguing about that anyway. Ama isn't even needed

No he doesn't, V2 is my defense for a base bee against ama anyways.

You comparing a bomb blast to an arrow to the face is laughable. The arrow would pierce and kill. there would be no tanking. Tanking a bomb doesn't give himthe defensive feat to survie an arrow to the face.

Lol What...? First of all bee can charge tbbs just as fast if not faster sasuke can create & aim his arrow as I've proven when he launched one in the juubi's mouth. Therefore arrows aren't piercing bee, they're piercing the bijuudama which does nothing anyways as susanoo swords can't even cause them to explode.

Secondly a bomb blows your limbs off, an arrow pierces through you, do the math & tell me which one is going to cause more damage.

Bee already got stabbed by piercing attacks from kokuo, & gyuki fought toe to toe with the 3rd raikage who also has a piercing jutsu. Both of these feats along with the bijuudama feats are more than enough to prove that simple arrows won't kill him. Bombs are more likely to kill than an arrow & that didn't even work, it's simple logic.

you suggesting he launches 5 tbb before sasuke uses 1 arrow or amaterasu is laughable.

Sasuke's fastest susanoo arrow feat: launching two at once in one panel. [ ]

Gyuki's fastest bijuudama feat: launching four at once in that same amount of time. [ ]

So assuming that bee can launch at least four before sasuke can actually hit him [because the bijuudama's will be blocking the arrows trajectory] is not unlikely in the slightest, in fact it's highly probable.

if you can blow ama off why didn't Ay spin really fast, or run really fast? once its burning it isn't coming off. Because its spawns, bee wouldn't be able to get it off before hes burning.

Ay cannot create a tornado with force alone, all he can do is run fast & even then fire doesn't extinguish from simply running fast. Do you know what centripetal force is? Ay isn't moving fast enough to create the centripetal force needed in order to remove the fire, sure he can shunshin, but he can't continuously spin around in a circle with the same amount of speed & force that gyuki showed us.

Just because he's fast, doesn't mean that he can do what bee did.

& Even if he didn't do it, It doesnt mean that he can't do it. He was focused sasuke & was willing to attack him even with his arm on fire. [ ] Ama didn't mean anything to him as it clearly didn't hurt enough for him to care, so why would he bother going through so much trouble just to remove it, assuming it's even possible for him?

I fail to see how sasuke gets hit on a hawk from tbb barrage. Even the hachibi says he can't aim

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sasuke could just keep his distance and hed be fine

I already said that bee's whirlwind knocks him off of his summon, sasuke will not be expecting a whirlwind that is several times larger than gyuki & therefore he will be knocked off due to being within his vicinity.
 
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What sasuke are we talking about?? This isnt EMS sasuke, one ama shot hurts him. Sasuke isn't using ama as much as you like to believe without suffering as a result.



Now you're restricting bee the option to cut his tentacles off? This doesn't make sense, bee can remove all of his tails if he wishes, there is nothing stopping him.



No he doesn't, V2 is my defense for a base bee against ama anyways.



Lol What...? First of all bee can charge tbbs just as fast if not faster sasuke can create & aim his arrow as I've proven when he launched one in the juubi's mouth. Therefore arrows aren't piercing bee, they're piercing the bijuudama which does nothing anyways as susanoo swords can't even cause them to explode.

Secondly a bomb blows your limbs off, an arrow pierces through you, do the math & tell me which one is going to cause more damage.

Bee already got stabbed by piercing attacks from kokuo, & gyuki fought toe to toe with the 3rd raikage who also has a piercing jutsu. Both of these feats along with the bijuudama feats are more than enough to prove that simple arrows won't kill him. Bombs are more likely to kill than an arrow & that didn't even work, it's simple logic.



Sasuke's fastest susanoo arrow feat: launching two at once in one panel. [ ]

Gyuki's fastest bijuudama feat: launching four at once in that same amount of time. [ ]

So assuming that bee can launch at least four before sasuke can actually hit bee [because the bijuudama's will be blocking the arrows trajectory] is not unlikely in the slightest, in fact it's highly probable.



Ay cannot create a tornado with force alone, all he can do is run fast & even then fire doesn't extinguish from simply running fast. Do you know what centripetal force is? Ay isn't moving fast enough to create the centripetal force needed in order to remove the fire, sure he can shunshin, but he can't continuously spin around in a circle with the same amount of speed & force that gyuki showed us.

Just because he's fast, doesn't mean that he can do what bee did.

& Even if he didn't do it, It doesnt mean that he can't do it. He was focused sasuke & was willing to attack him even with his arm on fire. [ ] Ama didn't mean anything to him as it clearly didn't hurt enough for him to care, so why would he bother going through so much trouble just to remove it, assuming it's even possible for him?



I already said that bee's whirlwind knocks him off of his summon, sasuke will not be expecting a whirlwind that is several times larger than gyuki & therefore he will be knocked off due to being within his vicinity.
MS itachi has less stamina than sasuke and he did fine

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considering he leaves in said tentacle, how would he cut the others off?

yes he does

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you have no feats to suggest bee can tank an arrow to the face. you are merely speculating.

tbb have been shown to be almost liquidy. How would susanoo's arrow no go right through the ball? if it didn't, then it would explode. I fail to see how bee transforms and fires before sasuke can fire. you'll never convince me.

how would sasuke not see his start the whirlwind before he does? did you forget he has the sharingan? clearly if he is out of range, and bee starts spinning he would naturally flee and assume something big is coming.

You have no evidence to suggest the centripidal force is enough to remove the burning flesh. you are jsut assuming bee is moving fast enoguh to make amaterasu come off. Why didn't he do that before?
 

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What's the knowledge for this match? I'm going to assume that Sasuke has the knowledge he carried over from his fight with Bee.. well anyways if Bee goes Hachibi mode he is not going to cut his tail off on his own if he's in too much pain. Comparing it to when he was getting taken in the Gedo Mazo is different. He was getting pressured sure but he wasn't in excruciating pain like he was when he was lit on fire by Amaterasu. He needed Sasuke to cut his tail so he can escape.. now even if you make the argument showing otherwise then what Sasuke can do is just use the amaterasu bijuu sized flame he spawn on the Hachibi the first time he used it and use it on all the tails. Considering this is Fresh MS Sasuke this should be doable. Even with no knowledge lets just say Bee is able to escape on his own by cutting his tail. What then? He can't escape like in the manga since they are set to fight in this match. With this being said Sasuke will figure out how Bee escapes and will do what I said previously.. ending him. I see Sasuke taking this match more than not.
 

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MS itachi has less stamina than sasuke and he did fine

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MS Itachi outlasted a CM sasuke. CM is a watered down version of SM, SM increases chakra capacity.

MS Itachi outlasted hebi sasuke easily, Itachi was able to maintain susanoo until he died.

MS sasuke suffers from eye strain [not as used to it as Itachi is], & goes blind from overusing MS.

& You're telling me that MS sasuke has more stamina than Itachi? Lol No, sasuke can't maintain his susanoo until he dies, the pain/blindness is too much & he deactivates it before he gets to that point. [ ] [ ]

Itachi is much more experienced with MS, & was able to outlast CM sasuke. MS sasuke can barely handle the strain that susanoo puts on him, yet Itachi wasn't complaining & was able to keep it active until the very moment he died. MS sasuke has no feats that put him on this level.

considering he leaves in said tentacle, how would he cut the others off?

That's the point of a tentacle clone. Even with the tentacle cut off gyuki is still there, there's nothing suggesting that he can't cut off the other tails.

Also why can't gyuki just cut bee off last? The other tentacles are simply decoys anyways.

yes he does

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You're showing me a squishy danzo getting flattened by susanoo. Susanoo's feats of being able to crush pure condensed chakra like a V2 cloak?

Show me a susanoo crushing a V2, then sasuke would sh*t on it, otherwise it's nothing but a stalemate in these conditions [until sasuke runs out of chakra].

you have no feats to suggest bee can tank an arrow to the face. you are merely speculating.

Already proved to you that tbbs block an arrow to the face, why are you repeating yourself...?

tbb have been shown to be almost liquidy. How would susanoo's arrow no go right through the ball? if it didn't, then it would explode. I fail to see how bee transforms and fires before sasuke can fire. you'll never convince me.

But tbbs are not liquid, they are pure condensed chakra. Madara stuck his susanoo sword in a tbb without it exploding, therefore it won't explode if pierced.

The arrow isn't going through the bomb because tbbs are much more dense than susanoo arrows. Tbbs density prevents susanoo arrows from piercing right through it, if anything the arrows will impale the bijuudamas but nothing more, & it doesn't do anything.

@Bold: Well then why am I bothering? If you remain ignorant to what I'm showing you then there's no more need for me to continue. u_u

how would sasuke not see his start the whirlwind before he does? did you forget he has the sharingan? clearly if he is out of range, and bee starts spinning he would naturally flee and assume something big is coming.

Now you're assuming that sasuke will react to a whirlwind that's several times larger than a bijuu? & You're assuming that sasuke or the hawk will not be close enough to even feel slight effects of the whirlwind? Lol Not happening.

@Bold: So what if sasuke assumes something big is coming? He has no idea of the size which is as I said several times larger than gyuki.

Even if sasuke moves back or assumes that something is coming, he's still easily within the whirlwind's range.

You have no evidence to suggest the centripidal force is enough to remove the burning flesh. you are jsut assuming bee is moving fast enoguh to make amaterasu come off. Why didn't he do that before?

Yes I do, ama is fire, therefore it acts like fire. This is more than enough to suggest that the whirlwind will remove the flames, because ama has no special properties other than being inextinguishable.

Why didn't he do it before? Because bee wanted to go on vacation & used the tentacle clone as an excuse to flee the battle. & I already told you, just because someone didn't do something, doesn't mean that they can't.
 

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yeah

The reason that sasuke's amaterasu was so big right at the beginning was because he had received sage chakra from juugo just moments ago

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Without the boost from juugo, sasuke's initial amaterasu is quite small compared to hachibi

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nowhere near enough to put down hachibi, he would have to pump a lot of chakra if he wants to even inconvenience bee and that would lead to him getting momentarily exhausted

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not to mention bee would escape like before and sasuke wont be able to follow up with another attack due to his exhaustion

in any case killer bee can simply use the time sasuke uses to charge up amaterasu for an attack like with itachi

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Worst case scenario: killer bee and sasuke both manage to hit the other but killer bee would survive from amaterasu will sasuke will die from bijuu dama
 

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The reason that sasuke's amaterasu was so big right at the beginning was because he had received sage chakra from juugo just moments ago

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Without the boost from juugo, sasuke's initial amaterasu is quite small compared to hachibi

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nowhere near enough to put down hachibi, he would have to pump a lot of chakra if he wants to even inconvenience bee and that would lead to him getting momentarily exhausted

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not to mention bee would escape like before and sasuke wont be able to follow up with another attack due to his exhaustion

in any case killer bee can simply use the time sasuke uses to charge up amaterasu for an attack like with itachi

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Worst case scenario: killer bee and sasuke both manage to hit the other but killer bee would survive from amaterasu will sasuke will die from bijuu dama

Where did you get this little fanfiction? He got flesh, not chakra. Nothing else was implied or said. Considering Ay is a human sized target, what makes you think he would use a Bijuu sized flame against him? Sasuke spammed Ama along with Susano'o and there was no exhaustion to be had against Danzo. Not only that, he was in an injured state against Bee, so of course he was exhausted. In that last scan, Itachi was prepping Koto, not Amaterasu, and Itachi showed against Kabuto he could use Amaterasu nigh instantly. Sasuke didn't have any significant charge time while using Ama ever, so why you'd bring that up is beyond me. We even saw him use it quickly against Bee.
 

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Where did you get this little fanfiction? He got flesh, not chakra

He got both, the viz simplified the flesh and chakra as body, go check the raw if you want

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Why do you think juugo mentions being compatible with his curse mark, its the same thing which allowed sasuke to manipulate senjutsu chakra of juugo with susanoo [ ]

Considering Ay is a human sized target, what makes you think he would use a Bijuu sized flame against him?

Considering sasuke was blood-lusted and had killing intent, using a comparatively poor attack when he is supposedly capable of a much more powerful attack would mean he is a fool

Sasuke spammed Ama along with Susano'o and there was no exhaustion to be had against Danzo.

Thats funny, he was panting after using a tiny human sized amaterasu [ ], and you claim that he can use a huge amaterasu on his own and wouldnt even be exhausted :rolleyes:

and as a result couldnt properly dodge danzo's wind bullets and got cut up [ ]

Not only that, he was in an injured state against Bee

show me sasuke's wounds in that fight, and he has been shown to get exhausted even in danzo fight, see above

In that last scan, Itachi was prepping Koto, not Amaterasu

funny you claim others write fanfition and then post such garbage, there is no such thing as prepping koto as its not itachi's mangekyo ability, the crow was rigged to react at teh appearance of itachi's mangekyo

no outer preparations need to be done, else the whole plan regarding sasuke would fail, the crow would act on his own, neither sasuke nor itachi need do anything apart from showing up their mangekyo

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according to your fanfiction, itachi was prepping koto

despite the fact that it has been explicitly stated that the crow would appear on his own and cast a genjutsu on sasuke at the appearance of itachi's mangekyo

itachi was prepping amaterasu as the manga canon says

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killer bee would have hit him with his sword as the manga canon shows

the crow reacted to itachi's mangekyo and casted kotoamtsukami on itachi, which gave him control of his body and he turned around and used amaterasu on nagato instead

Itachi showed against Kabuto he could use Amaterasu nigh instantly.

Itachi's amaterasu appears only after significant blood has come out from his eyes

Sasuke didn't have any significant charge time while using Ama ever, so why you'd bring that up is beyond me.

same with sasuke, except for teh EMS version
 
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