[VS] Muu vs Minato

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I thought Muu couldn't attack while invisible...
 

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Everyone has different opinions, but I still see no arguments
 

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Everyone has different opinions, but I still see no arguments

Minato is a top class shinobi whose basic capabilities are on par with people at the top of the shinobi world.Iam not talking about his fire power but his basic skills such as using weapons,tracking the enemy etc & So is Muu though he is portrayed to be a bit below Minatos level and on top of that Minato is a sensor and none of Muu's attacks are going to hit Minato as he need to turn his invisible mode off to attack him with Jinton,Jinton ain't instant and he it takes considerable time which creats an opening for Minato to simply throw a kunai towords him and teleport to his location/at worst case scenario i.e. Minato has no time to throw a kunai and attack him ,Minato dodges it.Same thing'll happed no matter the distance b/w those two ,the charge up time of Jinton is may not be a big deal against other characters but it plays a huge role against the opponents such as Minato.Some could say that Muu can simply get near Minato because he is invisible and kill him with Kunai which is nonsense,Minato is a top class shinobi with top level reactions and speed that kind of attacks aren't going to work against top dogs. Hell,even 12Y old Kakashi can track invisible shinobi and fight him but Minato can't? Only an idiot with no common sense would say something like that.

Muu is strong and can hold his own against people like Minato but he ain't winning this.
 

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Mu's ablities and how minato counters it

Flight:

  • Toad summons have been shown to be able to jump extremely high distances [ ][ ], [ ][ ] even higher than juubi
  • Sage mode powered jump [ ]
  • Throwing a kunai [ ][ ]

These are a few methods by which minato can close the distance between mu and himself to attack him
Note that naruto was able to do the same, even though mu was in air at the time [ ], so having the ability to fly isnt gonna cut it

Invisibility:

Although mu can hide his body and chakra, probably extinguishing his chakra much the same way as karin does [ ], however in order to use jinton he has to mold chakra and come out of the invisibility mode [ ], Minato being a sensor would be alerted to it

Mu can also be tracked via movements in air currents and sound if he tries to come close [ ], Minato being kakashi's sensei also replicated this feat [ ]

Jinton:

Jinton can be avoided, both the box version and the beam version, markings an be spread in a wide area quickly [ ] or S/T barrier can be used [ ]
 

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Minato being an alert senser. If I had a nickle for every time it was true, I would have zero nickles.
 

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Mu wins if he plays it smart. I am certain that he's encountered tobirama before, so he may have knowledge of the strengths and weaknesses of the FTG, and he seems to be pretty sharp.(he analysed trollkages jutsu perfectly, and told onoki.)
 

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It's obvious that only Edo Minato has Kyuubi, but some of his fans can't deal with it. No need to restrict something he doesn't have.

This right here. I can't even count how many times someone has shat on the "Minato can use Kurama while alive" BS.

OT: Minato wins. When Mu attacks, he has to reappear as shown by the manga, so that is when he strikes. Minato can easily evade any attack that this guy tries to pop out, or he can suck it in with S/T Barrier.
 

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Minato being an alert senser. If I had a nickle for every time it was true, I would have zero nickles.

is this the only thing you could come up with?

  • Minato sensing a marking location with no humans around [ ]
  • Minato sensing obito behind him [ ]
 

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This right here. I can't even count how many times someone has shat on the "Minato can use Kurama while alive" BS.

OT: Minato wins. When Mu attacks, he has to reappear as shown by the manga, so that is when he strikes. Minato can easily evade any attack that this guy tries to pop out, or he can suck it in with S/T Barrier.

Ok, so how does Minato win? You've mentioned possible counter for dust release.
 

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Mu's ablities and how minato counters it

Flight:

  • Toad summons have been shown to be able to jump extremely high distances [ ][ ], [ ][ ] even higher than juubi
  • Sage mode powered jump [ ]
  • Throwing a kunai [ ][ ]

These are a few methods by which minato can close the distance between mu and himself to attack him
Note that naruto was able to do the same, even though mu was in air at the time [ ], so having the ability to fly isnt gonna cut it

Invisibility:

Although mu can hide his body and chakra, probably extinguishing his chakra much the same way as karin does [ ], however in order to use jinton he has to mold chakra and come out of the invisibility mode [ ], Minato being a sensor would be alerted to it

Mu can also be tracked via movements in air currents and sound if he tries to come close [ ], Minato being kakashi's sensei also replicated this feat [ ]

Jinton:

Jinton can be avoided, both the box version and the beam version, markings an be spread in a wide area quickly [ ] or S/T barrier can be used [ ]

The toads are quite large, if they leaped towards or near Muu they'll be ash. Unless they can redirect mid-air.

Karin didn't express exhaustion when trying to hide or sense chakra. What Kakashi does it doesn't apply to Minato. Also, seeing a Muu can take flight, there's not creeping sound to predict with each step.

Dust release was able to turn an entire island, I think he can cover the range of throw kunia.

Still didn't say how Minato wins the fight
 

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The toads are quite large, if they leaped towards or near Muu they'll be ash. Unless they can redirect mid-air.

Karin didn't express exhaustion when trying to hide or sense chakra. What Kakashi does it doesn't apply to Minato. Also, seeing a Muu can take flight, there's not creeping sound to predict with each step.

Dust release was able to turn an entire island, I think he can cover the range of throw kunai.

Still didn't say how Minato wins the fight

- S/T barrier protects toads as long as Minato is on top of them

- Mu's invisibility is useless since he can't use Jinton. Gamabunta can spray his entire surrounding with oil which can hit Mu and reveal his location as the oil would stain his invisible body. Or Shima has shown to be able to sense entities that are invisible and masking their chakra (like Pain's chameleon). Sage Mode sensing is quite advanced, it may find Mu.

Jinton won't hit Minato with his speed, don't underestimate the distance/gap Minato can create between himself and opponents. Also his kunai marking distance is very large. And in sage mode Minato has the strength to toss kunai's hundreds of yards away. If Naruto could toss a giant Rhino high into the sky, imagine how far Minato would be able to throw a light kunai. Or Minato marks Bunta's giant Tanto and launches it at Mu, he dodges but Minato appears next to him with a Rasengan..

If has to come down and eventually, he isn't hitting squat from the air at Minato's speeds. Otherwise Ohnoki could have just stayed in the air all day long against Madara and spammed Dust release all day, obviously that isn't possible.
 

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Mū goes invisible and breaks Minato's neck.
 

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Mū goes invisible and breaks Minato's neck.

Shadow clones nullify his invisibility, he can't take them all out at once while invisible. If mu guesses and attacks the wrong one then his position is blown.
 

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Shadow clones nullify his invisibility, he can't take them all out at once while invisible. If mu guesses and attacks the wrong one then his position is blown.

Not if he flies into the air the second he does it, or has his double or rock Bushin do it.
 

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Not if he flies into the air the second he does it, or has his double or rock Bushin do it.

Pretty sure he can't use jutsu while he's invisible. Wait a second, since when can he use clones, I've only seen him use his splitting technique and that just halves his power.
 

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The toads are quite large, if they leaped towards or near Muu they'll be ash. Unless they can redirect mid-air.

conveniently leaving out the fact the jinton requires charge up time, or minato can redirect it

Karin didn't express exhaustion when trying to hide or sense chakra.

neither did muu

What Kakashi does it doesn't apply to Minato.

I just showed you minato finding out that the enemy was near without using sensing

Also, seeing a Muu can take flight, there's not creeping sound to predict with each step.

which is why he can be tacked via movements in air currents, at least read before replying

Dust release was able to turn an entire island

poor translation, read better translation, minato puts the barrier in front of him and jinton does nothing to him

Still didn't say how Minato wins the fight

i just showed you how minato counters each and every one of mu ablities, minato wins via shoving a rasengan and drilling a hole in mu's body
 

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When Mu goes invisible, I am pretty sure he can still use his sword right? If he can, he stomps.
 
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