Destroying the Myth that TBBs take forever to charge

[Sennin of Logic]

First off, I'd like to address that while the edo jinchuriki took a long time, they may not have the mastery over it that Naruto and Bee have.


1. Bee VS Juubi.

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Here, right after transforming back from being a leg and being released from kamui, Bee very quickly created a TBB. This was clearly formed very quickly and almost instantly, and it wasn't a rushed one considering Bee said "full power attack!" This was full-power, achieved very quickly.



2. Madara and Kurama vs Hashirama.

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The fact that full-kurama managed to create one and fire one right as the wood dragon's head was in range was proof enough, but he also formed TBB barrages, which means they're formed ridiculously quickly.


3. Naruto VS Kurama.

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This is definite proof that Naruto forming a TBB is nothing. The only time it took to form a huge TBB around his own size was to say "Don't make me angry Narutooooo!" The only time it took to go from there to a TBB much larger than himself was for Naruto to comment that "You've still got all that power."


This is clear evidence that a small TBB could be formed nearly instantly if Naruto so wished, and it doesn't take long to form a huge one.


This is definite proof that B and Naruto can, when in need, form TBBs very quickly and at full power.

 

[The Necromancer]

I don't even consider those examples to be "quick." In the time it takes to comment on an attack, powerful shinobi will take you down.

Pain countered in that time
Suigetsu countered in that time
Hashirama countered in that time

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Still takes to long Amaterasu one shots a TB.

 

[ShiroT]

ofcourse +rep

 

[stinkey]

u forgot the 8 tails vs 10 tails, when 8 tails tbbs firing one after the other like a machine gun

 

[deadp00l]

you should add this example too

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killer bee formed a bijuu dama while jumping and while transforming in to full bijuu

 

[Tobi98]

I don't even consider those examples to be "quick." In the time it takes to comment on an attack, powerful shinobi will take you down.

Pain countered in that time
Suigetsu countered in that time
Hashirama countered in that time

Suigetsu didn't counter it, he just got hit

 

[ShiroT]

I don't even consider those examples to be "quick." In the time it takes to comment on an attack, powerful shinobi will take you down.

Pain countered in that time
Suigetsu countered in that time
Hashirama countered in that time

why cant something be fast and something else be faster

 

[Champ]

Its no myth the Manga showed us it takes a while to charge, especially a Biju dama that expands.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

only Naruto can
Bee isn't cool nor hot enough to do such a thing unlike Naruto the solo' emperor

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I don't even consider those examples to be "quick." In the time it takes to comment on an attack, powerful shinobi will take you down.

Pain countered in that time
Suigetsu countered in that time
Hashirama countered in that time

Pain countered a 6 tail Naruto trying to form a large one. Suigetsu already had his water style out before Bee formed a TBB, so his speed did not surpass his TBB forming by any feats.

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I'm talking about the forming time.

Still takes to long Amaterasu one shots a TB.

Uh, no. By the time amaterasu would begin working, it'd already be formed and fired.

 

[ShiroT]

Its no myth the Manga showed us it takes a while to charge, especially a Biju dama that expands.

there are different variants with different attack power

 

[Kαmi]

1. Bee already had his TBB formed, meaning he could have been charging in Kamui

2. Kurama does seem to form them pretty quick but it doesn't seem nearly as destructive as other TBB's we've seem plus Madara was making those with the intention to still his sword through so it's not like he'd want to take long to form a powerful TBB when he's adding his own destructive force already

3. The timespan for those comments to happen is more than enough time for a shinobi to make some sort of move to minimize damage for themselves.

TBB isn't slow but it isn't super fast either. It's inconsistent if you ask me.

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

only when they wanna charge it it may take a lil time....maddy vs hashi maddy spammed them and put susanno swords in them

 

[409fusion]

Wow can't believe I never thought about this!!!
Nice find man keep it up!!!

 

[Lucidus]

in all honesty the fact that kurama and the hachibi were able to repid fire tailed beast bombs is evidence enough that when you have enough mastery over it, it doesnt take long to charge

 

[shelke]

Several times, conversations are taking place and even when TBB or Flash Dama is launched, we have seen characters moving to counter them with ease. A great example would be the TBB barrage from Kurama and Hachibi. They had already launched theirs, whilst Obito and Madara were shown talking. They made the V1 Juubi charge its laser at leisure.

Similarly, Obito also called the TBB from Naruto - used as distraction for Kakashi's Kamui to take affect - as slow. The are decent at best. Also, it has been clearly shown that the more the TBB is charged, the longer it takes, and the more powerful it is.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

1. Bee already had his TBB formed, meaning he could have been charging in Kamui

2. Kurama does seem to form them pretty quick but it doesn't seem nearly as destructive as other TBB's we've seem plus Madara was making those with the intention to still his sword through so it's not like he'd want to take long to form a powerful TBB when he's adding his own destructive force already

3. The timespan for those comments to happen is more than enough time for a shinobi to make some sort of move to minimize damage for themselves.

TBB isn't slow but it isn't super fast either. It's inconsistent if you ask me.

1. How can he use a technique that requires a mouth when he's transformed into a tail?


2. That's a possibility, and I've come across on your view on that before, which is why I didn't make this the only example. The TBB full Kurama formed with the dragon was formed quickly and was powerful.

3. Think about it, if a comment is all the time it takes to form one of the huge ones, imagine how quickly one of the normal sizes can be formed. Sometimes, a comment's time is all that's needed if one can delay your opponent's interception.

Several times, conversations are taking place and even when TBB or Flash Dama is launched, we have seen characters moving to counter them with ease. A great example would be the TBB barrage from Kurama and Hachibi. They had already launched theirs, whilst Obito and Madara were shown talking. They made the V1 Juubi charge its laser at leisure.

Similarly, Obito also called the TBB from Naruto - used as distraction for Kakashi's Kamui to take affect - as slow. The are decent at best. Also, it has been clearly shown that the more the TBB is charged, the longer it takes, and the more powerful it is.

The fact that there was talking does not mean it was slow. It's illogical I know, but take this example for instance.

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Does the fact that Minato was talking while Gai was fighting mean he was moving very slowly in the 7th gate?


Also, you do realize that was when Naruto was forming a TBB the size of a biju right? A mouth-sized one would take barely any time.

 

[Ultimateone]

i've said this before, not only do they not take a long time to charge but they are fast once you fire them. they are almost imposssible to dodge as they not only move fast but explode so there doesn't need to be a direct hit. most jutsu use hand signs and the bijuu dama obviously don't so take the charge time like the time it takes to do hand signs.

 

[AGoodBoy]

You're acting like you have any form of time scale for any of these scans.

The scan with juubi could have taken 2 seconds. the one with shinshuu could've taken 5 seeing as shinshuu is far slower due to size.

It's a fact that tbb's need white-black chakra in a ratio of [something] to work. That takes time to build up a tbb with a constant ratio, even 1 second of a wrong ratio makes it implode.