Madara's full use of Rinnegan abilites

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When will Madara use pure rinnegan based moves like Chibaku Tensei or Shinra Tensei? We know he can use them, but why doesn't he use them?

Maybe he doesn't have full mastery over the Deva Path techniques like Nagato? Tengai Shinsei doesn't show how well Madara can use Rinnegan because it's also part EMS technique. Will he use CT or ST later in the manga?
 

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He also only has one rinnegan.. Which could prevent him from using some of the rinnegan techs.
 

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everybody would die thats y
 

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He implied he can use the full power of the rinnegan.
 

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Rinbo Hengoku seems to be a a jutsu of the Deva path which has more control than ST or CT.
 

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he used Rinbo Hengoku which uses the same concept except it's more powerful/useful/efficient than Shinra Tensei, also it was stated that Madara can use the full capabilities/power of the Rinnegan.

i believe it wasn't used so it wouldn't be too repetitive (from a writer's view), same powers same fighting strategies.

besides who needs them when you can take out THREE Kage level Shinobi's (two of them are established legends) with a simple kick.
 

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He implied he can use the full power of the rinnegan.

Of course he can, it's his eyes to begin with. But how much mastery does he have over Deva Path? Tengai Shinsei is not a pure Rinnegan based moved, so it does not incorporate with Deva Path techniques.

Unless Madara shows he can use ST or CT, we have to assume he doesn't know how to use Deva Path techniques (if he does then why doesn't he show us)?
 

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Because, 1. he's extremely arrogant and probably thinks he doesn't need such power to win, and 2. logic is dead in the NV; as Snape said, he used Rinbo: Hengoku, which seems to be a more advanced move than ST and CT, but he hasn't used those two jutsus at all, just like Obito didn't, due to NV = 0 logic nowadays.
 

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Certain Justus are more effieciant than others in this current situation.

The six path Justus that Nagato know could not be the full power, you can't say Nagato has full mastery over the rinnegan in comparison to Madara.

How did Nagato know about the six path Justus in the first place?

Before Obito came along, he was just using Gales palm, after Obito's arrival he starts using Shrina tensei and Gedo mazou.
 

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Certain Justus are more effieciant than others in this current situation.

The six path Justus that Nagato know could not be the full power, you can't say Nagato has full mastery over the rinnegan in comparison to Madara.

How did Nagato know about the six path Justus in the first place?

Before Obito came along, he was just using Gales palm, after Obito's arrival he starts using Shrina tensei and Gedo mazou.

I'm not saying Nagato knows all Rinnegan moves (i doubt if he does tbh). I'm talking about Deva Path only. I have no idea why Madara refrains from using CT or ST if he knows them.

BTW, Rinbo: Hengoku is not exactly the same as ST. We can't assume that he knows how to use CT or ST based on the the theory that rinnegan is his eyes. There are lots and lots of rinnegan techs and its not a crime if u dont know a few of them. But I can't grasp why he won't use jutsu of CT or ST's caliber, if he's indeed a better rinnegan user than nagato. CT and ST are not any random mediocre jutsu, if Madara wants to show off his power he should have used them by now

I think he will use either (or both) ST/CT in his final battle
 

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I'm not saying Nagato knows all Rinnegan moves (i doubt if he does tbh). I'm talking about Deva Path only. I have no idea why Madara refrains from using CT or ST if he knows them.

BTW, Rinbo: Hengoku is not exactly the same as ST. We can't assume that he knows how to use CT or ST based on the the theory that rinnegan is his eyes. There are lots and lots of rinnegan techs and its not a crime if u dont know a few of them. But I can't grasp why he won't use jutsu of CT or ST's caliber, if he's indeed a better rinnegan user than nagato. CT and ST are not any random mediocre jutsu, if Madara wants to show off his power he should have used them by now

I think he will use either (or both) ST/CT in his final battle

Oh I'm aware that Limbo is a completely different technique than deva path/st/ct.

It could be that Kishi is introducing more Justus, instead of spamming old ones.

Madara taught Obito Forbidden uchiha techniques, six path Justus, and Yin yang release.

First, we got to use uses of forbidden uchiha technique from Itachi.

We also saw the 6 path Justus through Nagato as well, now since that has been introduce the last technique that was remaining is

Yin yang release. So they showed Obito and Madara using Omyoudon and a few cases of uchiha tech. with rinnegan tech. during the war.
 

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Of course he can, it's his eyes to begin with. But how much mastery does he have over Deva Path? Tengai Shinsei is not a pure Rinnegan based moved, so it does not incorporate with Deva Path techniques.

Unless Madara shows he can use ST or CT, we have to assume he doesn't know how to use Deva Path techniques (if he does then why doesn't he show us)?
some have theorized that he used both ST+BT on sasuke when madara solo'd him with sauce's sword. But just because he hasn't shown the use of deva path doesn't mean he doesn't know how to use it....
 

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I bet there's more Rinnegan Jutsu that we Haven't seen or mentioned. We still haven't seen Creation of all things which is the Jutsu that was said to have created the Tailed Beasts.
 

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I bet there's more Rinnegan Jutsu that we Haven't seen or mentioned. We still haven't seen Creation of all things which is the Jutsu that was said to have created the Tailed Beasts.
Only people who have a high mastery in yin & yang style can use that....
 
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