freemasons

[holtaa]

did you read the text i wrote?
it's not about if the freemasons are religious or not x,x

sorry, trying to bring some more info across and make a point to that guy who thinks they worship satan which they absolutely do not.

 

[omarsen]

You are an idiot. You should care since in your first post you said they worship Satan. Simply an ignorant idiot. I don't care what you believe you have every right to believe in god/satan **** even the flying spaghetti monster. But don't sit there and state something that is complete bullshit, The have nothing to do with Satan. I used wiki facts because I figured your weak mind has probably never visited a library. 3 people have called your bullshit on this thread, yet you insist on keeping It going? What you know is clearly something entirely different, that has nothing to do with this.

For your sake just stop lol. I bet if I asked you about Satanism you would say they kill children and dance around fires.

wow dude you are a completly retard.

So just becuase 3 people called me on this thread you will go with the majority?

Stop speaking shit about me and IQ omg "visit a library" because everything you learn is in the library, that tells you are just a moron behind the computer who thinks that he knows about life because he read about it in the library. go get some experince instead.

I bet if I asked you about Satanism you would say they kill children and dance around fires

That tells you are a retard, that knows nothing about the ritual.
I never said they kill children and dance around fire and all that bullshit, what makes you think that those who whorship satan does that? i bet you read it in a "Book"

 

[omarsen]

Religion isnt a factor at all in the freemasons, infact it is unofficially taboo to discuss things like politics and religion because it causes arguments within the brotherhood. Some of them are catholic, some of them are jewish and some of them are atheists. I dont believe atheists accept satan let alone worship lol.

à Mason CAN be à satanist, just like a Mason can be of any religion. à Mason just has to believe and serve à higher power.

But those in the high ups ranks does whorship satan

 

[holtaa]

bot your theory is spot on i think. Ive mostly forgotten what they told me but they were mostly builders at the time because thats what some of the most intelligent people did at the time, build. Like i said before it was about the secrecy of trading and passing on knowledge and information, particularly maths i was told.

You mentioned the church and yeah, as i said church hates them

And the gold well idk about that, but the society is incredibly incredibly generous. Like you have no idea. As i said before most of the members are really high up in the economy (CEO's and what not) meaning they have... deep pockets. And every year they anonymously donate millions of dollars to charity and all that stuff. They dont even get recognized for it which i think sucks because they deserve some recognition but they keep the whole secrecy thing to heart i guess.

 

[holtaa]

à Mason CAN be à satanist, just like a Mason can be of any religion. à Mason just has to believe and serve à higher power.

But those in the high ups ranks does whorship satan

Yes sure alright, but it has no place in the society, no religion does. They do not condone or disdain any religion. It is not based, or practiced around any religion including satanism.

 

[osba]

bot your theory is spot on i think. Ive mostly forgotten what they told me but they were mostly builders at the time because thats what some of the most intelligent people did at the time, build. Like i said before it was about the secrecy of trading and passing on knowledge and information, particularly maths i was told.

You mentioned the church and yeah, as i said church hates them

And the gold well idk about that, but the society is incredibly incredibly generous. Like you have no idea. As i said before most of the members are really high up in the economy (CEO's and what not) meaning they have... deep pockets. And every year they anonymously donate millions of dollars to charity and all that stuff. They dont even get recognized for it which i think sucks because they deserve some recognition but they keep the whole secrecy thing to heart i guess.

hah the gold was just to add a bit more grandeur to the story glad to hear you liked it. do you think i should continue on this story?

 

[holtaa]

hah the gold was just to add a bit more grandeur to the story glad to hear you liked it. do you think i should continue on this story?

well, i most certainly would be interested

 

[Genjitxu]

Wow no one even addressed OBSA's original point. It's like people address the things they project onto the thread with their own biases. That they are a civilization that predates western civilization was the point. No Satanism.
If anything to do with religion then they are cainites (the bad bro Cain from the Cain and Abel story). Many of their passwords and such reference Cain, the first murderer. Descendants of Cain built cities for protection, getting away from the nomad herding lifestyle of Abel. Cain farmed but his grain sacrifice wasn't liked by God. Abel made a blood sacrifice from his flock, him being a shepherd, and God like it because it was like the blood Jesus would spill one day. Cain got jealous and killed Abel.

 

[osba]

Wow no one even addressed OBSA's original point. It's like people address the things they project onto the thread with their own biases. That they are a civilization that predates western civilization was the point. No Satanism.
If anything to do with religion then they are cainites (the bad bro Cain from the Cain and Abel story). Many of their passwords and such reference Cain, the first murderer. Descendants of Cain built cities for protection, getting away from the nomad herding lifestyle of Abel. Cain farmed but his grain sacrifice wasn't liked by God. Abel made a blood sacrifice from his flock, him being a shepherd, and God like it because it was like the blood Jesus would spill one day. Cain got jealous and killed Abel.

neither did you >.>

 

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Why do people believe that propaganda shit about Masons being Satanist?

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Freemasons don't worship the devil, it's just a silly conspiracy I promise you.

 

[holtaa]

Why do people believe that propaganda shit about Masons being Satanist?

I can only think of two reasons, dont know exactly why but:

1. Back when the church was in control of society, they hated the free masons so they stated that they are devil worshipers to bring the public on their side.

2. The secrecy brought people to make up conspiracy theories.

 

[-Spoiler-]

I can only think of two reasons, dont know exactly why but:

1. Back when the church was in control of society, they hated the free masons so they stated that they are devil worshipers to bring the public on their side.

2. The secrecy brought people to make up conspiracy theories.

Think its a bit of Both, at first anything the church couldn't control or understand was branded devil worshiping and witchcraft, early medicine wore the title of witchcraft for a while until people started to wise up.

 

[narutokage99]

High grades freemasons are full of satanists and pedophiles, there are a documentary of testimony of children describing their rituals, they have cut children etc...It's explain all theses thousands of children who disapear every year some country.

Not all of them, i don't generalize, there are many differents freemasons with different lodges.

 

[osba]

Could we just stop talking off subject please? Thanks.

 

[YowYan]

they worship the Devil/Satan, thats why they call themselfs "Secret Society" and since Satan has exited before humanity on planet earth

Nonsense. They understand the real meaning behind religious scripts aka astrotheology, alchemy, anthropology, politics, science, kymatics, etc.

Don't talk rubbish please.

And the Devil is not some evil deity as you probably believe.. the devil stands for separation from the whole. Losing your sense of unity to the rest of the universe and being out of tune with the wonder state of consciousness a child has.

The process of satan is separation of the whole/ collective consciousness/god, if you must.. and finding that connection of love again by living. Aka 'unity in diversity' as it says in my sig.

Another name for all that is negative energy is the human false ego.

 

[ChrysaBella]

Are we really talking about this ? If you want a point of view regarding this matter ,well educate yourself or at least search on youtube ,but again this is up to how much you are willing to believe. There are a lot of secret stuff happening in the world and I defenetly believe that freemasons are implicated and much more then that I am convinced they are all satanist, from A to Z. But everyone is free to believe whatever they want but just like I said, at least search for information and then choose what to believe in and what is just fantasy.

 

[osba]

Are we really talking about this ? If you want a point of view regarding this matter ,well educate yourself or at least search on youtube ,but again this is up to how much you are willing to believe. There are a lot of secret stuff happening in the world and I defenetly believe that freemasons are implicated and much more then that I am convinced they are all satanist, from A to Z. But everyone is free to believe whatever they want but just like I said, at least search for information and then choose what to believe in and what is just fantasy.

Well you guys are but please shut up about it already.. This thread isnt about their religion. -.-

 

[holtaa]

High grades freemasons are full of satanists and pedophiles, there are a documentary of testimony of children describing their rituals, they have cut children etc...It's explain all theses thousands of children who disapear every year some country.

Not all of them, i don't generalize, there are many differents freemasons with different lodges.

Its all just speculation, my friend is high up in the ranks and he goes around to any lodge at any time if he wants. Your not allowed any criminal record to join, they have police in the masons and they check you.

People fear what they do not understand.

 

[Meowazziel]

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Hey guys, i'm normally not the kind of person to believe in this kind of shit, but i thought that this correlation of events/evidence i found was very intriguing.
so, please give it a read and tell me what you think; should i expand this story? thanks in advance for reading, its a shit ton of text heheh

It begins with the temples in turkey that were made over 12.000 years ago:

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Which shows us that there used to be a functioning, building society that most likely had overseers that planned and overlooked the builds.. (this temple alone was visited/worked on for over 2000 years)
Next we see that everywhere around the Mediterranean sea there are societies starting to form.. Greece, Egypt, Syrian etc.

Based on this information i think that there used to be a civilization living at the Mediterranean sea around Greece (let’s call it Atlantis).
Why don’t we find allot of stuff back from this civilization? Most likely because it is now submerged.. the Mediterranean sea used to look very different and there are allot of earth movements around the Mediterranean sea that, once every so often, make islands disappear or reappear from the sea.

I believe that the builders and other tradesmen from this civilization found refuge in for example ancient Egypt and started building on grander scales again with the knowledge passed on to them through the generations.
these builders were the elite of society that was open for anyone to join as long as they were smart enough to become builders.. this would have made them very smart due to natural selection.
The builders would also have been neutral and so would not be killed in times of war or political unrest.
These builders were capable of keeping their trade secrets until around 800-900 AD, at which point they were most likely finally overpowered by the church and thus made them an underground society.

it could be that, once they had to go underground, they became known as the freemasons and that they became a society of secrets, exploiting these and their incredible intelligence (thanks to the natural selection) to keep their lives of grandeur.
So, around 800-900 AD the freemasons needed new secrets..
my belief is that one of these secrets was America.. in one of their chapels they built (the Rosslyn chapel,

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) there was a depiction of corn (which originates from America)
and, around 800-1000 AD the Vikings also tried to colonize north America.

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there is a structure in newfoundland believed to have been build in about 1000AD due to the building style used

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the building technique required to build this however is not found in nordic countries around that time..

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suggesting that it wasn't just the vikings that set foot in america.

What also happened around 800-1000 AD is the Mayans making expeditions to north America
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So these could have met.. the pyramids in Mayan/Aztecs society are not that old..(

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) their cities are much older than the pyramids. It could very well be that those gods that the Mayans/Aztecs talk about (

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) are actually the freemasons.
When the real invasion of America began, why was there so little gold found? I think this is because the freemason elite hid the gold and are spending it even today

Its iteresting.
I dunno what I think of the last line about the gold though.
The rest was a great read.
I would say expand on the story.