[Theory] The Juubi's jinchuriki are not able to use Ninjutsu

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Hello Everyone. How are you guy's doing?
I have another theory today, but It isn't that long so you don't need a seat this time and to be sincere I don't have enough chakra for the "Chair No Jutsu" :yeah:

Without any delay lets get going.
We have been observing from the manga that the Juubi jinchuriki don't seem to use other Kind of Jutsu except the Jutsu of the Black Balls, that is extremely offensive
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He was able to destroy both hokages in just seconds. But that same stuff is very defensive too.
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That Black stuff was able to protect Obito from 4 Bijuu Dama. Not normal ones, Juubi Bijuu dama's that could destroy mountains.
But everyone will think Why didn't Obito use Kamui at those moments to dodge the Bijuu Damas explosion?
Was it because it consumes to much chakra? I doubt that, since Obito had nearly infinite chakra. He was conected with the Juubi.
Why didn't he use Katon: Bakufu Rambu or other Jutsus that could bust up the alliance for good? Why didn't he use Kagebunshin se he could attack multiple people at the same time ?
And most importantly why didn't he use Kamui to dodge Naruto's Sage Rasengan?
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After that attack Obito said this:
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But I think this was most likely a translation mistake, the real translation is most likely in MangaPanda
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Despite being rarely right I think the secret is in this page. Obito said he can't travel through dimensions. It is as if Obito has no more conrtol over his chakra. It is as if Obito has totally lost the ability to use any other ninjutsu. But Obito is no alone. Even Madara didn't use Ninjutsu although they seemed the Obvious choice in many part of the manga
Madara could have used Katon, he could have used Susano'o But it seemed as if he couldn't. So what is this? s this Kishimoto being a stupid Guy and leaving such Plotholes or is it something else. Despite Kishi being wrong sometimes I doubt he couldn't have realised this.

Now lets go to my theory when Naruto was using the Ninetails chakra he had no control over his own chakra in the meantime, his chakra was being taken by the Ninetails.
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But Bijuu chakra is very different from the Juubi chakra Bijuu seem to be able to use elments and even Ninjutsu sometimes. When Naruto was in Kyuubi chakra mode he was able to use Rasengan and even clones. What because the chakra of the ninetails is very similar to Naruto's, since Naruto has been a jinchuriki for so long.

The Juubi is a lot different. The Juubi chakra is nearly all Natural energy.
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And it seems when the user becomes the Jinchuriki he seems to be draining constantly chakra from the Juubi to have that Juubi mode. And seens the Juubi has no intelligence and has infinite chakra doesn't think of draining the chakra of the individual. It might even drain the user completely but since it has a lot of life force the user stays alive.

Despite what the reason is if someone has no connection to their chakra they can't use ninjutsu. Since ninjutsu are created by molding your own chakra and giving it shape with your physical energy, then transforming it by an element.

The Jinchuriki of the Juubi have no connection to their chakra and they can't use ninjutsu since they can't mold their chakra in order to create the Ninjutsu in First Place.
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Madara is using entirely Juubi chakra not his own chakra so he can't mold ninjutsu at all.

This was my theory, I hope you liked it Everyone. Peace
 
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Good idea , but why should a Juubi Jinchuuriki use weak Ninjutsu when they can blow up the entire battlefield ? Plus the Onmyndon can cancel Ninjutsu , so , I don't really see the point .

Though I somewhat agree , you might be wrong .
 

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Good idea , but why should a Juubi Jinchuuriki use weak Ninjutsu when they can blow up the entire battlefield ? Plus the Onmyndon can cancel Ninjutsu , so , I don't really see the point .

Though I somewhat agree , you might be wrong .
The attacks are sometimes just not effective. Susanoo would have been very useful for Madara when Obito stabbed him. I think that the people would even use Ninjutsu but they didn't use them because they can't.
Thank's for Reading I appreciate it =D
 

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The reason why Obito can't use Kamui is because the Juubis body is so large. It would take time to teleport that huge being into a different dimension with him.
Well thats my idea.
 

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The reason why Obito can't use Kamui is because the Juubis body is so large. It would take time to teleport that huge being into a different dimension with him.
Well thats my idea.
What he said. Besides, give Madara some time, and we will see.
 

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The reason why Obito can't use Kamui is because the Juubis body is so large. It would take time to teleport that huge being into a different dimension with him.
Well thats my idea.
The Jinchuriki had enough chakra to make the process faster then ever, Obito was even able to teleport with the Yin Kyuubi when Madara attacked. So I doubt that that is the Case. Thanks for Reading

What he said. Besides, give Madara some time, and we will see.
We gave him enough time, I doubt that he will show more even if he had the time of the World. Thanks for reading
 
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Makes a lot of sense! I hadn't given that much thought at all before. With naruto and bee being the "perfect jinchurikis" they can acess the full power of their bijuu as well as their own power while obito and madara could only use the 10 tails chakra not their own. We will see if madara can or cannot use different jutsu when things get serious for him.
 

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Makes a lot of sense! I hadn't given that much thought at all before. With naruto and bee being the "perfect jinchurikis" they can acess the full power of their bijuu as well as their own power while obito and madara could only use the 10 tails chakra not their own. We will see if madara can or cannot use different jutsu when things get serious for him.
As for Madara we must see this. In Naruto's case I think tha since he is Friend with the new being, his chakra is melt with the Bijuu's so he can use other jutsu no Problem.
 

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i don't agree but i'll go along with it for a while. maybe they can't use other ninjutsu because they are forcefully using the juubi's chakra. maybe since naruto is getting it a different way he won't be held by the same restrictions as them. but like i said before i don't really agree that they can't use ninjutsu, it's just they don't want to. see you have the ability to create bijuu dama that are multiple city busting in power, and black orbs that can negate ninjutsu and pretty much obliterate anything it touches. why would you use fire style or anything else when you have that. as far as the not being able to go through dimensions, i don't know why he can't do that other than maybe the juubi can't exist in that verse, or maybe it was resisting it.
 
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Nice theory =D
Thanks a lot, I appreciate it =D.

i don't agree but i'll go along with it for a while. maybe they can't use other ninjutsu because they are forcefully using the juubi's chakra. maybe since naruto is getting it a different way he won't be held by the same restrictions as them. but like i said before i don't really agree that they can't use ninjutsu, it's just they don't want to. see you have the ability to create bijuu dama that are multiple city busting in power, and black orbs that can negate ninjutsu and pretty much obliterate anything it touches. why would you use fire style or anything else when you have that. as far as the not being able to go through dimensions, i don't know why he can't do that other than maybe the juubi can't exist in that verse, or maybe it was resisting it.
Still Ninjutsu are important. Many of those can protect and attack at the Same time. Still Madara cound have used Perfect Susanoo to kill everyone but he didn't so the reason he didn't use them might be because he can't

Interesting hypothesis that using the Jūbi's chakra severs the user's own hindering the use of Ninjutsu proper, good job!
Thanks a lot, I appreciate it. =D
 

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The reason why Obito can't use Kamui is because the Juubis body is so large. It would take time to teleport that huge being into a different dimension with him.
Well thats my idea.
My thinking on this in along the same lines, but rather than being a body so big its that because it is another entity within him, he cant phae it and him at the same time just like he cant suck in another person. Therefore jutsu cancels itself out.
 

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Also, Madara implied that he could use Rinbo Hengoku on Obito but decided not to keep the element of surprise. I assume Rinbo is in fact ninjutsu.

But a more simple argument would be to say that he can't use ninjutsu while using the black balls. 3rd hokage sstated that they were created using at least 4 chakra natures and probably 5. If the balls are in fact a sustained jutsu using all the chakra natures at once surely takes a lot of concentration, and infinite chakra doesn't mean infinite focus.

There is quite a bit more I would like to say but my thoughts are incomplete ad I don't have any hard evidence to back it up, but basically Madara won't use ninjutsu because he can't use the balls while doing so. This leaves him potentially exposed to some sort of quick attack like hiraishin or Gai's taijustu.
 
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