Hebi Sasuke defeats 90% of akatsuki

[HNIC]

Sasuke would lose against kakuzu

How? I don't see that happening

 

[Zexion~]

Lml, Sasuke's Raiton may bypass his elemental justu however it doesn't

Copying and Pasting an argument from a previous thread U_U ALl Shelke did to respond was post feats :|

I think most of you are intelligent enough to discern the arguments for Sasuke from mine of Kakuzu U_U However for some of your sakes i bolded my arguments :|

Pressure damage its countered with grand fireball. Making sasuke's tech's stronger and fueling kirin.
Domu tanks the flames and it stops the Chidori spear doesn't it ?

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Sasuke takes this high Difference without Manda. Add Manda or Hawk into the fray and the winning level goes down exponentially. Sasuke has counters for all of Kakuzu's move-set. Doton Domu is countered with Chidori Spear - Sasuke has shown to bring his Raiton concentration down to two fingers only, which is only one finger short of hell-stab level Raiton attack.

What do fingers have anything to do with this? As i've said before if Sasuke is going to go for a full on charge on Kakuzu all it takes is Kakuzu to have his masks attack from behind Sasuke (X) Which Sasuke may be able to dodge however this completely nullifies any attempt at reaching Kakuzu, also realize that unless Sasuke pierces Kakuzu's heart the chidori spear is useless, and from such range its not that hard to shift his body out of the way so the damage is useless and if Deidara's Clunky Dragon was able to move out of its range fast enough (X) Kakuzu should be able to achieve this feat with minimal difficulty and now note that when using this one of his hands will be busy, lessening his chance to counter a jutsu used at him.

His Futon Attack is countered with Dragon Katon attack that has three Dragon heads. One of them burst straight through the hide-out - they made it all the way to the cloud ceiling to start the hot-spot storm. They, along with Grand Fire Ball technique that can tear up the ground get strengthened with Fuuton.

This is true, however Kakuzu's Domu will tank this combo although with his experience he should know that the Uchiha are masters of the fire style and use his combined Fuuton + Katon combo from the start (X) Which Sasuke has no counter for, and just look at its size, it was larger then the tree's that towered over Kakashi without even being able to finish its formation, as it was interrupted by Yamato's and Naruto's jutsu.

He can evade the Futon attack's range easily, given that Hebi Sasuke is much faster than kakashi. A perfect example would be the Deidara blast radius he covered within a heart beat without a single scratch on him and then was quick enough to jump up to avoid the mines. Kakuzu's Raiton is countered the same way Kakashi did - Sasuke is in fact the superior Raiton user. If Suiton mask is included, then Chidori Nagashi takes it apart as Suiton is rendered useless once a powerful Ration is run through it.

Lmao not even close my man, Kakashi was only able to nullify Kakuzu's raion due to Lightning Cutter being a stronger technique, the fact that it was S-Rank and still barely was able to nullify the jutsu is a testament to Gian's strength, also Has Sasuke ever used Chidori in both hands? I don't believe he has, meaning he has no counter to the multiple bolts (X)


His threads are shown to be canonically weak compared to Raiton. Unlike Kakashi, Sasuke can simply use Nagashi to get them off him, if by a stroke of luck on Kakuzu's side he manages to snare him. Sasuke is also a much superior at Kenjutsu and Taijutsu compared to kakashi, so close-quarters-combat should be of no issue to Sasuke.

Lmao what is this? Not only has Kakuzu been able to ensnare Kakashi with his threads twice without him being able to react (need i get the scan's) But he was able to do so without Him being able to use his Raiton at all, as you realize when they start to penetrate your skin it will cause a severe amount of pain, and its hard to use jutsu when your in the process of having your heart ripped out However if he restrains them in a positioning like this (X) Then what good is Chidori going to do anyways? Without a force behind it its not slicing anything, and he can't reach his upper arm when restrained like that, he's sitting duck for a jutsu. Also i don't see why you brought up CQC or Kenjutsu when he's going to be restrained with threads that really makes no difference, Also Kakashi has a 4.5 in Taijutsu while Hebi Sasuke has a 3.5

The sasuke wank is real in this thread lol

Although i think he did counter the finger argument, although its not of that much importance here

 

[shelke]

^ So what do we use for debates, if not feats? This guy.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

It's not automatic, but the mode is permanently on once she engages in battle - until she runs out of chakra, obviously. While in paper goddess form she's basically part person(whatever looks like a body) and paper. But she can freely burst into paper as she pleases. Seeing as sasuke doesn't have flight, or the luxury of izanagi, he won't catch her off guard(by her thinking he's dead). But, go ahead with your argument.

He does have flight he has a hawk remember?

How? I don't see that happening

Cuz kakashi can't even beat kakuza alone back then an that was just the main body plus kakashi snuck him an took out one of his hearts so they won't even fighting a full power kakuza to begin with.

While sasuke is fighting kakuza him self he will still have to worry about 4 more enemies its just to much without susano he's a dead duck.

 

[AGoodBoy]

He does have flight he has a hawk remember?

Hebi sasuke has no hawk.

tl;drl; No.

 

[Zexion~]

^ So what do we use for debates, if not feats? This guy.

Feats + Explanations on to how these feats help the character :|

Not just a bunch of scans that doesn't do shit ^_^ Perhaps you would like to formally debate then? Since that Fuher guy is pathetic U_U

 

[shelke]

Hebi sasuke has no hawk.

tl;drl; No.

He should have it, as Obito never saw it but Karin knew about it. When we all know that Obito had been monitoring Sasuke for quite some time.

@Zexion~

Already gave the explanations before, simply expanded them with more feats. Both of my posts in that thread are connected. Fuher is not pathetic. Let's not get insulting, just because you do not agree with his arguments.

 

[Zexion~]

He should have it, as Obito never saw it but Karin knew about it. When we all know that Obito had been monitoring Sasuke for quite some time.

@Zexion~

Already gave the explanations before, simply expanded them with more feats. Both of my posts in that thread are connected. Fuher is not pathetic. Let's not get insulting, just because you do not agree with his arguments.

Should of known you would say such a thing U_U

Anyways how bout it >.> Debate me? People clearly need to be enlightened of this matchup

 

[shelke]

Should of known you would say such a thing U_U

Anyways how bout it >.> Debate me? People clearly need to be enlightened of this matchup

Why ask, when you know I'm predictable? Will tell you when I am a bit free. I am going through materials for my thesis these days.

 

[Zexion~]

Why ask, when you know I'm predictable? Will tell you when I am a bit free. I am going through materials for my thesis these days.

College boy eh ^^

Very Well,

And i ask to validate my predictions

 

[~Sky~]

First of all; Hidan, Kakuzu, Kisame, Sasori, Konan, Zetsu, and Deidara are 7 members. Nagato, Itachi, and Obito are 3. That's 7/10. Your thread by title and reasoning is incorrect.

Now that we're finished with the math lesson, I mostly agree except for Kisame and maybe Kakuzu. Hebi Sasuke easily places in the mid tier Akatuski and his MS form moves into the top tier.

All I'll say about this.

 

[AGoodBoy]

He should have it, as Obito never saw it but Karin knew about it. When we all know that Obito had been monitoring Sasuke for quite some time.

@Zexion~

Already gave the explanations before, simply expanded them with more feats. Both of my posts in that thread are connected. Fuher is not pathetic. Let's not get insulting, just because you do not agree with his arguments.

Or he could've gotten it when he became taka. i think The first time we saw a hawk in the background was the first time he showed his MS and said they're now taka.

 

[shelke]

Or he could've gotten it when he became taka. i think The first time we saw a hawk in the background was the first time he showed his MS and said they're now taka.

Wouldn't make sense, as Obito never saw it. Zetsu kept a close watch during his Hebi days, as we saw later. The fact that Obito never even received intel about it could mean only only thing - he got the contract before Obito's watch, which could very well be with Orochimaru. Karin knew about it. That was more of a metaphoric revelation. Hawk being superior to snake.

@Zexion~

I am a Bachelors University students.

 

[Touken]

He doesn't beat Itachi, Nagato or Obito. Don't think he can beat Kisame either, but he beats the rest, making him mid-Akatsuki level.

 

[SadSasuke]

What is wrong with people saying that Sasori would be defeated by Sasuke with High-Diff, or saying that Sasuke WOULDN't beat him? Sasori got owned by Sakura (who would have been soloed by Sasuke in 20 seconds) and Chiyo (same story as Sakura). Sasuke would take on Sasori and kill him in less than 3 minutes if he even gets lucky. He would just use Long-Chidori and aim to his heart (just like he did to Danzo).

 

[SadSasuke]

He doesn't beat Itachi, Nagato or Obito. Don't think he can beat Kisame either, but he beats the rest, making him mid-Akatsuki level.

Why wouldn't he beat Kisame? If MS Sasuke would stomp on Kisame, then Hebi Sasuke is exactly like Kisame with only one exception... Kirin. There's no counter to that from Kisame! Also, if he tried to use the giant water bubble on Sasuke in Shark Mode, he would just get electrocuted by Sasuke with Chidori Nagashi.

 

[Touken]

Why wouldn't he beat Kisame? If MS Sasuke would stomp on Kisame, then Hebi Sasuke is exactly like Kisame with only one exception... Kirin. There's no counter to that from Kisame! Also, if he tried to use the giant water bubble on Sasuke in Shark Mode, he would just get electrocuted by Sasuke with Chidori Nagashi.

There's a massive gap between Hebi Sasuke and MS Sasuke. Any Raiton-based ninjutsu gets absorbed by Kisame [

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[Beans2]

The fact that you think Kisame beats an MS Sasuke already proves that I don't have to take you seriously on this topic, and + I'm half tired and don't feel like responding. Maybe if you actually show scans of Kisame absorbing Amaterasu when it has proven to burn opponents really fast then come back to me.

Also, it probably took you like 50 minutes just to type that garbage.

Yes, because MS Sasuke is portrayed as above Kisame means that he is stronger right? Samehada absorbed a katon, so there's no reason why it can't absorb amaterasu. And lol, Amaterasu is actually a slow-burning fire. The fact that you make fun of me for spending time on a rebuttal rather than coming up with one yourself just proves im right. Face it, I win this debate

 

[Dannie]

Yes, because MS Sasuke is portrayed as above Kisame means that he is stronger right? Samehada absorbed a katon, so there's no reason why it can't absorb amaterasu. And lol, Amaterasu is actually a slow-burning fire. The fact that you make fun of me for spending time on a rebuttal rather than coming up with one yourself just proves im right. Face it, I win this debate

Oh god, the level of inconsistency has no merit with this guy. You reply like every 2-3 hours and bring me back this shit.
Amaterasu is stronger than your average everyday Katon, so using that as a comparison is ridiculous. Furthermore, Amaterasu might not be known to be fast at burning, but it is still fast at hitting it's target. It doesn't have to necessarily burn fast, but just hit the target fast. Can you keep up with me?
Also, Kisame hasn't the strength or power to break V2 Susano'O. Suiton is countered by Raiton.

You're a simple feline that has no type of knowledge on Sasuke or Kisame. You make up shit just to fit your lost argument.
The heat from Amaterasu can create the cumulonimbus clouds to form in the air thus having the necessary preparations to activate Kirin. Also if Sasuke keeps his distance and uses Amaterasu then it's a clear win.

You didn't win anything because you are trapped in a continuous genjutsu just like Kisame would be. Try harder, kid.

 

[ShiroT]

College boy eh ^^

Very Well,

And i ask to validate my predictions

i wish to debate how about it? lol i dont bs