Nagato remains the strongest character.

[Da Best Ever]

@Da Best Ever, obviously Nagato has more power than Itachi. But while Itachi was in Akatsuki, he was sick and becoming blind at some point. He was better off spying than killing the other members. If he were to fight Nagato, even if he were to win by some luck (Nagato had alot of power but was seriously nerfed. At best, since Itachi knew his secret, he would have to somehow distract the 6 paths and just go after Nagato himself. Nagato was crippled and totally drained by using the rinnegan, that's why he relied on the paths to fight for him. If Itachi did that, I guess he could easily kill Nagato who himself is in no condition to fight either), it would take alot out of his eyes. Itachi was fighting to live just long enough to fight Sasuke and transplant some powers to him. I don't think he would risk wasting his MS on an attempt to kill Nagato. Especially when that would blow his cover and the other Akatsuki members would gang up on him as well. He wouldn't be able to kill all of them if they were to all go against him (and they probably would all go against him at the same time, they would just call others for help). I do realize that Kakazu got away w/ killing his partners, but the case is different for Itachi. Kakazu was known to be hot-headed. Itachi was not. He was calm and level-headed. The other members would think something was up if he randomly started killing people off in the organization. Especially considering that he was a part of Konoha's Anbu. They would probably piece it all together if he attempted to kill other members, it's not that easy.

nagato could fight the same way his edo self did, he could use all his summons to move around and use asura paths ability to move too...they were not the same...but i get your point about itachi not being able to actual see nagato other than the pains but i do think that something about that is fail logic because itachi wanted obito dead and he spent almost as much time with obito as nagato did so why did he use tsukoyami on him...and taking out the head is what matters, the other shinobi wouldnt knw how to run the akatsuki if nagato and obito were gone and the others would be eventually killed or captured because their were shinobi from the 5 great nations that are capable of beating them akatsuki members i nagato and obito were dead, and itachi did a piss poor job at spying becaus ehe told konoha nothing about the akatsuki so he shoul dhave just sacrificed himself to defeat the main bad guys which would have stopped this war...and itachi can at least defeat most of them at the same time, like hidan, konan, zetsu, kakuzu and deidara at least he would be taking out most of the problem

 

[Joker]

Please compare the crate of ultimate push to those and you're nonessential post will be forgotten

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Dude was strugglin' to push Naruto and CLONES, the hell you think he's going to do with PS? LMFAOMFFASODMFADSOFMA

 

[Da Best Ever]

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He does.

rinnegan madara used the meteor and this thread is about ems madara so he doesnt have that...and hashirama deosnt instantly go into sage mode, he takes just as long as naruto and jiraiya only kabuto goes into it fast and that because of juugo's ability to passively absorb senjutsu which would mean hashirama would lose to ct before he can go into sage mode because he doesnt have any other jutsu with enough explosive force to beat ct...i am only debating pro-nagato because i dnt think the evidence u guys are using is the correct way hashirama or madara wins

 

[HNIC]

You're assuming he can use all this with ease, he uses the push, he's out of commission, PS steps on him. Dude, just stop. Hashirama CRAPS on him, Madara CRAPS on him.

if you didn't give a shit about us, than don't make threads asking us to "unite" and have debates, you don't give a shit, no?

Assuming? It's his abilities! He's shown the ability to use paths back to back. It's nothing difficult

Out of commission? He was wrecking the village, killed a few dozen and use ultimate push and still fought SM Naruto and the Kyuubi afterwards. How the hell would he be out of commission? Lol jokes

I post my opinion and y'all come a running lol

 

[Da Best Ever]

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Dude was strugglin' to push Naruto and CLONES, the hell you think he's going to do with PS? LMFAOMFFASODMFADSOFMA

he had just fought a village, 3 giant toads, 2 toad sage, a hokage, intel, plot, and a 4-5 tail kyuubi, and tried to suppress a 6-8 kyuubi, i imagine he was tired...

 

[-immortal-]

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Dude was strugglin' to push Naruto and CLONES, the hell you think he's going to do with PS? LMFAOMFFASODMFADSOFMA

Thanks you didmi help you to solo this fodder?

 

[-immortal-]

he had just fought a village, 3 giant toads, 2 toad sage, a hokage, intel, plot, and a 4-5 tail kyuubi, and tried to suppress a 6-8 kyuubi, i imagine he was tired...

Up and madara can swipe his sword more then 11 times so gg nagato and his imaginary st block

 

[HNIC]

he had just fought a village, 3 giant toads, 2 toad sage, a hokage, intel, plot, and a 4-5 tail kyuubi, and tried to suppress a 6-8 kyuubi, i imagine he was tired...

The poor child didn't think of that and the fact that I've already explained ST already consumes a lot of chakra lol

 

[Joker]

Assuming? It's his abilities! He's shown the ability to use paths back to back. It's nothing difficult

Out of commission? He was wrecking the village, killed a few dozen and use ultimate push and still fought SM Naruto and the Kyuubi afterwards. How the hell would he be out of commission? Lol jokes

I post my opinion and y'all come a running lol

When using a Large-scale ST, he is out of commission (for the deva path), which is the ONLY path able to do anything. It's kind of bad when your whole argument is destroyed with one jutsu, PS.

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[HNIC]

Up and madara can swipe his sword more then 11 times so gg nagato and his imaginary st block

It takes one shot to absorb susnaoo

 

[-immortal-]

The poor child didn't think of that and the fact that I've already explained ST already consumes a lot of chakra lol

The strongest st has showed to omly destroy the size of konoha ps slash can chance map try again

 

[Madara Uzumaki Uchiha]

WTF do you mean by upgrade??? Do you mean that we are only considering feats that are shown when a character is first introduced? Who gives a shit about that- but sure, by your criteria Nagato is arguably # 2 ( hashirama's first feats were in part 1 ) Even with your criteria, first appearance of madara was as a edo- that version of madara beats Nagato----- however if you believe we should use Madara's feats when he was first mentioned then we should use VOTE Madara feats. that version of Madara beats Nagato easy.

 

[HNIC]

When using a Large-scale ST, he is out of commission (for the deva path), which is the ONLY path able to do anything. It's kind of bad when your whole argument is destroyed with one jutsu, PS.

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Now go re-watch leaf invasion and come back.

 

[-immortal-]

It takes one shot to absorb susnaoo

And one push of madara w rinbo hengoku

 

[HNIC]

The strongest st has showed to omly destroy the size of konoha ps slash can chance map try again

Do you know the size of konoha? The largest village in the series lol

 

[Joker]

Now go re-watch leaf invasion and come back.

Go look at Madara's battle with Hashirama, go look at how their battle required the world to REDRAW LANDSCAPES.

 

[-immortal-]

Do you know the size of konoha? The largest village in the series lol

The land ofmfire is big konohas size itself is normal

 

[HNIC]

Go look at Madara's battle with Hashirama, go look at how their battle required the world to REDRAW LANDSCAPES.

I did, Pein crater was greater and he still had chakra to fight afterwards. Try again

 

[HNIC]

The land ofmfire is big konohas size itself is normal

It's normal? Please review images of the entire village

Multiple Large summonings looked of fly after appearing in the crater

 

[Limbo]

Madara's PS roflstomps.

Foddersma shinsenjuu roflstomps.

Ot^ I've been reading, and the onoy thing i can say is that op is retarded