Nagato remains the strongest character.

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Even then, Hashirama still stomps. If we're talking portrayal, God of Shinobi > Some Shinobi that happened to obtain Madara's Rinnegan, who couldn't use it to it's fullest potential.

Madara's rinnsegan please stop it, he got that by obtaining another's DNA himself. I'm talking in character.

Rinnsegan portrayal> "god of shinobi" title
 

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Again, Nagato wasn't trying to kill Naruto and Nagato didn't use ST to its fully potential than or at that moment.

He defeats both Madara and the hokage

Obito is sensed and kamui is repelled
Flower Tree World, GG.
PS, GG
Stop.
@Bold, Lmfao wut?
 

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Y'all are so simple minded, I'm talking character introduction and how characters were portrayed. Just as the kyuubi has always been Naruto's power, rinnsegan has always been Nagato's power

No, you can't just change the definition of introduction to suit yourself. You said Nagato was introduced with Rinnegan, therefore he keeps it. Well, Madara was introduced as an Edo, so he keeps that, and Edo Madara>Nagato, therefore, following your logic through and through, you're wrong.
 

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EMS Madara and Hashirama annihilate him.

4-5 trail Naruto pushed through his ST, he wouldn't be able to put a scratch on Madara's PS or Hashirama's Statue even if he were to put all his chakra into a single ST.

MS Obito beats him too. Nagato is WAY too slow for him

Shisui KA.


Thats pretty far from "all".

that st was done through deva path and nagato > paths


obito already said nagato was invincible


if ka was all that then shi sui wouldnt have got stomped by danzo and nagato has never been put in genjutsu, if he could then itachi would have used tsukoyami on him in the akatsuki to kill nagato since itachi's real mission was to spy on the akatsuki and protect the shinobi world and nagato is a sensor and only itachi is the only genjutsu user able to mold chakra for genjutsu without being detected by sensors as stated by Ao...
 

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Nagato is fodder w/o the rinnegan. He relies 100% of stolen powers a.k.a. Madara's eyes. And I say this as one of his fans.
 

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It was portrayed as his power, until Kishi said that they wasn't his eye. So no it's not Nagato's power. And he still loses to:

Any version of adult Obito.

Madara.

Hashirama.

KA.

Naruto.

Madara defeats how? Gezo, chakra absorption, summoning, sensing, etc

Hokage win? How

KA by who? Nagato can technically pull the eye out of socket
 

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Flower Tree World, GG.
PS, GG
Stop.
@Bold, Lmfao wut?

st would repel flower tree world and destroy it and ct would destroy it too and only the buddha statue could stop ct in hashirama's arsenal and he just cant summon the buddha any time he wants either, he has to go into sage mode which takes some time and then summon buddha..in all that time hashirama would have lost to ct...
 

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Madara defeats how? Gezo, chakra absorption, summoning, sensing, etc

Hokage win? How

KA by who? Nagato can technically pull the eye out of socket
OMG YOUR ACTUALLY SERIOUS? LMFAOOOOO! OMFG, LMFAO. Okay, okay, okay.
PS swipe > Everything he has to offer
 

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No, you can't just change the definition of introduction to suit yourself. You said Nagato was introduced with Rinnegan, therefore he keeps it. Well, Madara was introduced as an Edo, so he keeps that, and Edo Madara>Nagato, therefore, following your logic through and through, you're wrong.

No, Madara was introduced as a legendary uhciha, not a rinnsegan user.
 

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Nagato is fodder w/o the rinnegan. He relies 100% of stolen powers a.k.a. Madara's eyes. And I say this as one of his fans.

its not stolen it was given to him without his knowledge, he didnt steal it...
 

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Again, Nagato wasn't trying to kill Naruto and Nagato didn't use ST to its fully potential than or at that moment.

He defeats both Madara and the hokage

Obito is sensed and kamui is repelled
If he did 6tails Naruto would have ended him due to the recharge period of the large scale shinra tensei.
 

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Hebi Sasuke is a tactician therefore he beats him.

MS Sasuke oneshots him with Amaterasu.

EMS Sasuke oneshots him with legged Susano'o.

EMS + Senjutsu Sasuke oneshots with Sword of Solo Kings.

Nagato is not the strongest character; Sasuke is.
 

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OMG YOUR ACTUALLY SERIOUS? LMFAOOOOO! OMFG, LMFAO. Okay, okay, okay.
PS swipe > Everything he has to offer

Swipe > ultimate push? Along with CT

A huge shield of chakra swinging close to a user who can stop it and absorbs the technique
 
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If he did 6tails Naruto would have ended him due to the recharge period of the large scale shinra tensei.

No, his intention was to capture and could've increased the size of CT but didn't, manga fact.
 

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OP said "without upgrades" getting the Rinnegan was an upgrade, fall back.

And I also said how the character was introduced. According to introduction, Nagato was the solo rinnsegan user, it was and IS his ability.
 
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