[VS] current gai beats itachi?

[Touken]

Not really, with his sharigan he will know Gai is activating his gates and prepare by either using sussano or utilizing his fast hand seal speed by making crow clones or exploding kage bushins which Gai won't be able to keep up with may foolishy attack one and end up damaging himself.

So Gai isn't even going to get time to activate Gates now? Those Kage Bunshin are easily dealt with by Morning Peacock, considering he can use it as a ranged attack.

Itachi can also blind Gai's vision momentarily by the using of summonings crows to his aid[

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All dealt with by Asa Kujaku.

You say while in 6g Gai evades everything but that obviously isnt the case since amaterasu is still a factor, Does Gai even have the reaction time to react to amaterasu? Gai doesnt have v2 Ay reaction time, that's fact. Is 6 gates speed the same as v2? Most likely not.

He doesn't need to evade Amaterasu, he can literally hit it with Morning Peacock and the attack would go back into Itachi's direction, bearing in mind that Amaterasu has no motion, it just spawns. A ranged attack would consume Amaterasu and send it flying back, but I'm pretty sure 6G Gai is fast enough to evade Amaterasu anyway, since he was able to cover the distance between him and Kisame almost instantly [

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], and he was fast enough to make the floor move up and break, and the SFX itself also implies he was really fast.

While performing morning peacock or hirudora Gai leaves himself open to a Amaterasu which he won't react to.

Not when Morning Peacock is big enough to block Itachi's LoS [

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[Prince Charles]

Actually, it seemed more like Gai was on the ground due to this

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As you can see Madara is also pushed backwards and Gai is on the ground covered in smoke so it doesn't really mean it was due to exhaustion

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Gai used Hirudora against Kisame and was not on the ground after that

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and was shown to still be able to fight afterwards

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Even after breaking a few bones and ribs, he was able to still open the gates

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In this war Gai has constantly been fighting using his gates repeatedly...Both of them would be fresh for this battle so if anyone is going to tire put first, it's going to be Itachi due to him having a lower stamina than Gai

I'm not saying Gai wins but he definitely isn't going down as easy as you think

There are a few scans in this war that shows Gai collapsing after the use of gates and deactivating them after some use.

But as you showed madara was capable of counter attacking when Gai WAS preparing hirudora, let's say Gai takes the same approach against itachi while sussano is up, he is leaving himself open to a amaterasu or a incoming sussano attack.

 

[~Sky~]

It would surely be a good fight.

 

[Optimistic]

V3 Susano'o tanks hiroduoa, it only destroyed V2 which is obviously weaker than its upper levels.

Itachi still wins.

 

[Prince Charles]

So Gai isn't even going to get time to activate Gates now? Those Kage Bunshin are easily dealt with by Morning Peacock, considering he can use it as a ranged attack.

Never said he wouldnt have time to go into gates? I was referring to Gai coming into close contact with the clones of course he could use morning peacock as a range attacked but then again his crow clones should be more then capable of reforming at itachi's will or dispersing if necessary[

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All dealt with by Asa Kujaku.

Yup while the crows are keeping him occupied causing him to use morning peacock itachi takes advantage of the situation.

He doesn't need to evade Amaterasu, he can literally hit it with Morning Peacock and the attack would go back into Itachi's direction, bearing in mind that Amaterasu has no motion, it just spawns.

Lol what are you hearing yourself? So Gai to react amaterasu by using morning peacock ? SO Gai has v2 Ay reaction speed correct?

but I'm pretty sure 6G Gai is fast enough to evade Amaterasu anyway, since he was able to cover the distance between him and Kisame almost instantly

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That wasnt even a 5 meter gap between kisame and Gai..

Not when Morning Peacock is big enough to block Itachi's LoS

Ill give you that but amaterasu still finishes Gai.

 

[Uchihareborn207]

So Gai isn't even going to get time to activate Gates now? Those Kage Bunshin are easily dealt with by Morning Peacock, considering he can use it as a ranged attack.

All dealt with by Asa Kujaku.

He doesn't need to evade Amaterasu, he can literally hit it with Morning Peacock and the attack would go back into Itachi's direction, bearing in mind that Amaterasu has no motion, it just spawns. A ranged attack would consume Amaterasu and send it flying back, but I'm pretty sure 6G Gai is fast enough to evade Amaterasu anyway, since he was able to cover the distance between him and Kisame almost instantly [

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], and he was fast enough to make the floor move up and break, and the SFX itself also implies he was really fast.

Not when Morning Peacock is big enough to block Itachi's LoS [

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1.you damn **** amaterasu can even burn fire and water so how is Asa Kujaku dealing with it.
2. so guy is faster than ay now ? bullshit even madara and juubito isn't faster than him.
proof: sasuke couldn't keep up visually with ay but he could with juubito.

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ay is the faster shinobi and madara and sasuke protected themselves against his attacks
3. itachi has even grater reflexes than sasuke and battle experience so how is itachi getting blitzed here?

 

[Conspirator.]

Itachi beats Guy mid diff. If guy is dumb enough to use hirudora, itachi can use the yata mirror to tanks. Then when guys reactions slow for a second, he can finish off with amaterasu. This is assuming guy even starts off using the gates right off the bat. If he doesn't, he gets raped by itachi.

 

[Touken]

Never said he wouldnt have time to go into gates? I was referring to Gai coming into close contact with the clones of course he could use morning peacock as a range attacked but then again his crow clones should be more then capable of reforming at itachi's will or dispersing if necessary[

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He wouldn't need to come into close contact with the clones. If they disperse in the form of crows, the crows get destroyed by the flames, so Itachi would just be wasting chakra by making clones if in the end they get destroyed and serve no purpose in the battle.

Yup while the crows are keeping him occupied causing him to use morning peacock itachi takes advantage of the situation.

How exactly would he take advantage of the situation? The crows come from him, so they come from his direction. Morning Peacock would destroy his crows and keep Itachi occupied by having to put up a defence against the flames.

Lol what are you hearing yourself? So Gai to react amaterasu by using morning peacock ? SO Gai has v2 Ay reaction speed correct?

Base Gai himself has an extremely quick reaction speed, so yeah, I presume 6G Gai would have comparable reaction speeds to that of V2 Ay's. Especially since his striking speed is buffed up to the point where they become supersonic. Gates enhance everything to do with the body, including reaction speed, foot speed and striking speed. Not to mention the fact that foot speed is naturally faster than striking speed. Like I said, Amaterasu has no motion, it just spawns. A projectile going in the opposite direction should consume the Amaterasu and carry on going, but I'm pretty sure 6G Gai can evade it, especially since the bleeding of Itachi's eyes would give off huge signs to Gai.

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That wasnt even a 5 meter gap between kisame and Gai..

No, you can see on the next page that Gai backs up onto land, evidenced by the pieces of rock crumbling up [

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Ill give you that but amaterasu still finishes Gai.

Itachi's good for only two Amaterasu [

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[Haizaki]

He wouldn't need to come into close contact with the clones. If they disperse in the form of crows, the crows get destroyed by the flames, so Itachi would just be wasting chakra by making clones if in the end they get destroyed and serve no purpose in the battle.



How exactly would he take advantage of the situation? The crows come from him, so they come from his direction. Morning Peacock would destroy his crows and keep Itachi occupied by having to put up a defence against the flames.

Base Gai himself has an extremely quick reaction speed, so yeah, I presume 6G Gai would have comparable reaction speeds to that of V2 Ay's. Especially since his striking speed is buffed up to the point where they become supersonic. Gates enhance everything to do with the body, including reaction speed, foot speed and striking speed. Not to mention the fact that foot speed is naturally faster than striking speed. Like I said, Amaterasu has no motion, it just spawns. A projectile going in the opposite direction should consume the Amaterasu and carry on going, but I'm pretty sure 6G Gai can evade it, especially since the bleeding of Itachi's eyes would give off huge signs to Gai.

No, you can see on the next page that Gai backs up onto land, evidenced by the pieces of rock crumbling up [

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Itachi's good for only two Amaterasu [

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Ahhh I see what you did there...from that KG's post loool

 

[Avinash012]

Itachi takes this.

 

[Draegod]

There are a few scans in this war that shows Gai collapsing after the use of gates and deactivating them after some use.

But as you showed madara was capable of counter attacking when Gai WAS preparing hirudora, let's say Gai takes the same approach against itachi while sussano is up, he is leaving himself open to a amaterasu or a incoming sussano attack.

Ama' is useless in this fight while gates are up. Itachi want even attempt Ama' because he isnt stupid.

 

[Touken]

Ahhh I see what you did there...from that KG's post loool

Hmm? Whatchu talking about

 

[Tendou00]

The manga speak of itself, current Kakashi and Gai are clearly above Itachi.

 

[miromiro]

Nope, Itachi wins.

 

[Conspirator.]

Why would guy even look at itachi's eyes to "notice the bleeding". That would leave him a sitting duck to tsukyomi.(And completely rapes him-no questions.)

 

[Touken]

Why would guy even look at itachi's eyes to "notice the bleeding". That would leave him a sitting duck to tsukyomi.(And completely rapes him-no questions.)

Yeah, no. First of all, he doesn't have Tsukuyomi prepped 24/7 within his eyes. It'd be a waste of chakra. He has to first establish eye contact, then build-up chakra specifically for Tsukuyomi and then cast it. If he's about to use Amaterasu, he can't suddenly switch to Tsukuyomi. Secondly, he always closes his eyes when he's about to use Amaterasu. And last of all, Genjutsu wouldn't work on Gai in Gates because his chakra would be in full force constantly which'd act as a passive Genjutsu Kai, and the pain from being in Gates would also cancel out any Genjutsu.

 

[Spymoon]

^speculation. It took itachi less than a second to put Sasuke under Tsukyomi. What is all this nonsense about it requiring chakra prep? Where was this stated? If gai looks into itachi's eyes he gets tsukoyomed, if he doesn't he gets amaterasu'ed. Let us not forget that the sharingan knows what the user will do next. Itachi will know exactly whether or not gai will stare him in the eyes or not and act accordingly. Just as obito predicted gai's every move.

 

[Touken]

^speculation. It took itachi less than a second to put Sasuke under Tsukyomi. What is all this nonsense about it requiring chakra prep? Where was this stated? If gai looks into itachi's eyes he gets tsukoyomed, if he doesn't he gets amaterasu'ed. Let us not forget that the sharingan knows what the user will do next. Itachi will know exactly whether or not gai will stare him in the eyes or not and act accordingly. Just as obito predicted gai's every move.

Because he went straight up to him and established eye contact, meaning he already had it prepped [

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[Conspirator.]

Yeah, no. First of all, he doesn't have Tsukuyomi prepped 24/7 within his eyes. It'd be a waste of chakra. He has to first establish eye contact, then build-up chakra specifically for Tsukuyomi and then cast it. If he's about to use Amaterasu, he can't suddenly switch to Tsukuyomi. Secondly, he always closes his eyes when he's about to use Amaterasu. And last of all, Genjutsu wouldn't work on Gai in Gates because his chakra would be in full force constantly which'd act as a passive Genjutsu Kai, and the pain from being in Gates would also cancel out any Genjutsu.

Nothing more than dumb speculation. There is ZERO evidence that genjutsu doesn't work on gai with gates. Tsukyomi rapes this clown-standard methods DO NOT work like chakra disruption. If he chooses to look in itachi's eyes-genjutsu rapes him. If he doesn't-he either fools him with crow clones(itachis notoriously know for doing that) or rapes him with amaterasu.

 

[Touken]

Nothing more than dumb speculation. There is ZERO evidence that genjutsu doesn't work on gai with gates. Tsukyomi rapes this clown-standard methods DO NOT work like chakra disruption. If he chooses to look in itachi's eyes-genjutsu rapes him. If he doesn't-he either fools him with crow clones(itachis notoriously know for doing that) or rapes him with amaterasu.

Do all Uchiha fanboys just spout speculation? I'm getting pretty sick and tired of that word, especially when most of you guys haven't a clue what it means.

Speculation - the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence.

Does the user feel pain in Gates? Yeah.

So what's the problem here?