[VS] Naruto, Kakashi, Bee, and Gai vs Edo Madara and Obito

[Bogard]

Essentially a repeat from what already happened in the manga except this time Team1 is at full power instead of the terribly weakened version of them that Edo Madara and Obito fought

Battlefield: Same as in the manga
Knowledge: Manga
Conditions: No Jubi
Distance: 30meters

Who wins? At what difficulty?

My opinion?

Spoiler

Team1 mid difficulty

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Do they know Obito is Obito?

If so, Team 1 takes this. Kakashi sends a BM clone to Kamui dimension and Obito gets solo'd by Gai.

Naruto, Kakashi and Bee defeat Madara.

 

[Bogard]

Do they know Obito is Obito?

If so, Team 1 takes this. Kakashi sends a BM clone to Kamui dimension and Obito gets solo'd by Gai.

Naruto, Kakashi and Bee defeat Madara.

Knowledge is manga, so they obviously know

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Yeah, but current Manga or Manga at the time of the fight?

 

[Bogard]

Yeah, but current Manga or Manga at the time of the fight?

Manga knowledge means everything known from the start til current chapter

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Then you have your answer. Team 1 takes this rather easily.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Obito is a non factor, if Kakashi warps himself or a Naruto clone to kamui land, then obito is a sitting duck since he can't use kamui without getting killed in the other dimension.

It's basically just vs Edo madara. Naruto gives everyone chakra cloaks. Gai combines his cloak with 6/7 gates while Kakashi uses kamui freely.

Bee isn't really needed.

 

[Draphsin]

PS kills them all.

 

[Avinash012]

I lean more towords Madara and Obito.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

PS kills them all.

PS is below Bijuu Mode by quite the margin.

Not to mention Kamui solos.

 

[Bogard]

PS kills them all.

It couldn't even hit Hashirama, was tanked by the mokujin's arm. It's never going through a defense that tanked Jubi's laser. Kakashi would warp him in the other dimension as well

 

[Haizaki]

Team 1 takes this if it's till current manga..liking the avatar Bogard

 

[Draphsin]

It couldn't even hit Hashirama, was tanked by the mokujin's arm. It's never going through a defense that tanked Jubi's laser. Kakashi would warp him in the other dimension as well

Edo madara has an endless pool of chakra & team 1 has no seals except for bee's ink clone which can be broken out of rather easily via susanoo.

Naruto will eventually run out of chakra, so will kakashi if he decides to keep using kamui to escape.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Edo madara has an endless pool of chakra & team 1 has no seals except for bee's ink clone which can be broken out of rather easily via susanoo.

Naruto will eventually run out of chakra, so will kakashi if he decides to keep using kamui to escape.

First of all, if Madara gets warped he's out of the fight, so Edo form is irrelevant.

And if Naruto breaks though PS he simply drops a boulder on top of Madara's crunched body.

 

[Bogard]

Edo madara has an endless pool of chakra & team 1 has no seals except for bee's ink clone which can be broken out of rather easily via susanoo.

Naruto will eventually run out of chakra, so will kakashi if he decides to keep using kamui to escape.

I'm not saying Kakashi would use kamui to escape. I'm saying he will use kamui to warp Madara(Perfect Susanoo or not). Not to mention Naruto can give his teammate additional chakra cloaks that even tanked tenpechi. Endless chakra pool or not, it's not like they would be fighting for days and eventhen people like Kakashi, Gai and Naruto were actually already fighting for days when this fight will never last that long, so it barely has an importance here. With Bijuu warping Kamui, Continous Bijuudamas, Edo Madara can't win here

 

[Bieber]

Team 2 takes this.

 

[Draphsin]

First of all, if Madara gets warped he's out of the fight, so Edo form is irrelevant.

And if Naruto breaks though PS he simply drops a boulder on top of Madara's crunched body.

First of all, obito cancels kakashi's kamui, warping is useless.

@Bold: Not sure if serious, if PS can't smash it then he regens...

I'm not saying Kakashi would use kamui to escape. I'm saying he will use kamui to warp Madara(Perfect Susanoo or not). Not to mention Naruto can give his teammate additional chakra cloaks that even tanked tenpechi. Endless chakra pool or not, it's not like they would be fighting for days and eventhen people like Kakashi, Gai and Naruto were actually already fighting for days when this fight will never last that long, so it barely has an importance here. With Bijuu warping Kamui, Continous Bijuudamas, Edo Madara can't win here

Obito will cancel it or just warp madara back if that happens. Edo madara tanked tenpechii with a lesser form of susanoo so that doesnt really help here, if neither of them can get past eachother's defenses then naruto loses due to chakra loss.

Assuming that the fight won't last long when team 1 can't put down perfect susanoo? Even if it breaks madara simply creates another one & obito provides support via kamui, if madara gets warped then he comes back.

Muli bijuudama are a detriment if PS comes up close, gyuki took massive damage from one of his own tbbs, if naruto + gyuki continuously spam it at point blank range then they will take damage but it will simply cause madara to regen, or obito can even warp madara away before he suffers any severe damage. Susanoo would remain intact briefly if madara got pulled from it so it can even be used as an effective feint.

Edo madara can win, team 1 can't put him down with obito at his side.

 

[Bogard]

Obito will cancel it or just warp madara back if that happens. Edo madara tanked tenpechii with a lesser form of susanoo so that doesnt really help here, if neither of them can get past eachother's defenses then naruto loses due to chakra loss.

Assuming that the fight won't last long when team 1 can't put down perfect susanoo? Even if it breaks madara simply creates another one & obito provides support via kamui, if madara gets warped then he comes back.

Muli bijuudama are a detriment if PS comes up close, gyuki took massive damage from one of his own tbbs, if naruto + gyuki continuously spam it at point blank range then they will take damage but it will simply cause madara to regen, or obito can even warp madara away before he suffers any severe damage. Susanoo would remain intact briefly if madara got pulled from it so it can even be used as an effective feint.

Edo madara can win, team 1 can't put him down with obito at his side.

Nice point but Kakashi will send a BM Naruto clone in the other dimension. From there on, Obito becomes a non-factor. After they kill him, it will leave Edo Madara alone against them and they would replicate the strategy i just mentioned. I'm not saying it won't last long. I'm saying it won't last longer than 1day, making the chakra issue less relevant

 

[Draphsin]

Nice point but Kakashi will send a BM Naruto clone in the other dimension. From there on, Obito becomes a non-factor. After they kill him, it will leave Edo Madara alone against them and they would replicate the strategy i just mentioned. I'm not saying it won't last long. I'm saying it won't last longer than 1day, making the chakra issue less relevant

I don't see a BM clone killing obito but it might preoccupy him for a while.

 

[Takos]

Due to Obito possessing Kamui and Madara being immortal, Kakashi is a key-player in this fight.
He is needed to defeat both Obito (countering his Kamui) and Madara (kamuing him is the only way for team 1 to win, since they have practically no sealing techniques).

If Madara and Obito realize this, Kakashi will become their main target. This is the danger.

However, as Bogard said, Kakashi can simply kamui Naruto's clone which will make Obito's Kamui 100% useless when Guy starts attacking him in 6th gate. Obito is not a problem in this fight, Madara is. He won't sit by idly when Obito is getting his ass kicked.
Guy is needed to handle Obito (force him to use intangibility so that Naruto's clone finishes him off), so that leaves Naruto, Kakashi and Bee to keep Madara occupied. Taking Obito down won't take long, so I think they can do just fine until then.
If need be, Kakashi can waste one Kamui to teleport Madara, to stop him from dealing some fatal blow. This should only be done in emergency, though, because once Madara is in Kamui dimension, he'll surely destroy Naruto's clone and then Obito will bring him back anyway.

This will be a difficult battle, no doubt. I think team 1 takes it high difficulty.

I don't see a BM clone killing obito but it might preoccupy him for a while.

When intangibility is out of the game, I'm quite positive that Obito will be overpowered by Naruto.