Then check your comparison again. Gedo was able to block the walls from closing in, and we dont even know how much force the walls are closing in. We are just speculating on what to compare to since the scaling of the Doton is near mountain range.
The force doesn't matter in the
slightest, the gedo proved to us that it can crush mountains with it's pure strength. It doesn't matter if the mountain was moving or not, the gedo crushed a mountain-sized boulder, I see nothing from manda that compares.
You example doesn't even counter mine, it supports it. Those spikes are able to support what I already explain. It is as strong as your example, a mountain wont be able to budge too.
Prove that those spikes are of mountain durability. They're puny compared to the mountain that tried to crush the gedo mazou.
Do I
really need to bring out scans of gedo & bee & then compare the gedo with the mountain it destroyed? The spikes are puny in comparison so this example is invalid.
Manda II tackled through all where he was slithering to.
All those puny spikes? Cool
I didn't forget. I was only meeting you half way concerning Manda II and Mazo. Which of course your not going to.
And no one sided means one side favoring the other. Kabuto arsenals perfectly balances it out then an imbalance match up.
No, you called all jutsus that obito uses on kabuto useless, but this proves that the gedo is not useless as it's occupying a massive portion of base kabuto's arsenal, Now I don't even see him entering SM before he gets warped away, which makes it one-sided..
No it wouldn't, your just exaggerating Gedo's power. No such thing as multiple shockwave, otherwise Kakashi would never drag time to drag his arm down, or Guy hitting his toe to trip him[
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I'm exaggerating the gedo's power then you're exaggerating manda's. All the gedo did to create a shockwave was scream. After that it used it's strength to stop the boulder & then used multiple chakra blasts. Okay you want to take away the gedo's ability to scream in multiple succession then it can simply use multiple chakra blasts & aim a few at kabuto as well as manda, or it can just use a shockwave then blast kabuto directly.
No it's not it's common sense.
So your concluding that Madara has to put more effect in those rods then actally just adding 1 to produce the chains, so it be as effective then multiple ones..
That math doesn't work with your claim
No....He puts a little bit more effort [if you could even call it effort, he's just using more rods] & in return he
never has to worry about them again. They are permanently bound now. Madara doesn't have to keep an active seal on them which would be the result of only using
one rod.
Hashirama already told sasuke not to touch them due to what could possibly happen, they bind you so stop denying it.
No you gave me Naruto's comment. I rather go with Hachibi's comment with his effective knowledge[
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What the?...That was obito's comment...Zzz How on earth would naruto know that & why would I even be arguing this point if naruto said it? Plus bee is no more credible than naruto on the subject anyways because he has a small idea of what the rinnegan's jutsus are or what they can do.
Which makes less sense then just using 1 w/ chains being as powerful
These chains are being exaggerated in power. Not once does it add up of humans being effective as Buijuus are. And what they both have in common, is that you are still mobile with them.
Lets say that I agree that it will be effective as Buijuu. Since Manda since Mobility can still happen, then it will be simple for Kabuto to remove them with options.
And yet I still haven't even see how a rod will land on Kabuto to begin with.
@B: No it doesn't, having an enemy bound permanently without having to keep a seal active > using the seal's chain.
@U: This doesn't make sense, mobility is restricted when bound by the rods.
@R: Manda is getting it's ass kicked by the gedo. The rods aren't getting removed by anyone once kabuto gets hit with them.
@G: The same way gyuki got peppered with rods, or the same way hashi & tobi got hit by them. It doesnt matter because the rods are endless & one stab means it's over. Sasuke stabbed SM kabuto's snake with his sword from long range after spamming him with magatamas. The same strategy can easily be incorporated by obito via kamui & the rods.
Assuming kabuto even makes it to SM [prepping for it makes him a sitting duck], he still has to defend against an onslaught of rods. & before you say underground obito simply follows with sharingan & warps wherever he appears before he can do anything.
You think kabuto is invincible or will always dodge hits? Not the case. Someone who can't be hit >> Someone who can in cqc.
-Minato makes a handsign with his Kunai to open it in his range, the S/T isn't anywhere it wants
-Which both have different feats of effectiveness. One needs to not be materialized via ghost mode and one need to be materialized via taking things in and out.
-Each do have properties.
I don't even know why you're arguing this...The barrier can be used for offensive purposes, there's no reason why it can't.
If you are going to continue with this. Snakes can detect heat so, was this jutsu is perform the snake will sense it and move its body away.
1, The barrier appears from the ground & 2 it appears before obito even calls the jutsu & appears extremely quickly. Oh and 3 manda is so big that it would be laughable for obito to miss when he has a sharingan.
Kishimoto stated that this in the databook:
Kabuto changing it to find sand, plus senjutsu can create enough for his snake summonings to fit the gap.
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Means nothing, first of all kabuto needs to prep his SM, so he isn't hiding underground & using senjutsu to create space for him to summon something all in one go. Secondly animal path was above ground, she wasn't hiding like a mole as she was summoning her creature. Kabuto isnt hiding underground & summoning snakes, even in SM he can only summon his creatures after he digs the hole for them.
I won't feel like going any further if you think sharingan will have the edge to Kabuto perceptual ability.
Itachi kept up with kabuto, nothing more to be said if
you think it can't.
