The Sage had MS/Sharingan before the Rinnegan.

[Mitarashi]

No Actually the reference you just said makes no sensse The vision upgrate Is followed from the very first tomoe to the rinnegan, shinra tensei is avaible only in rinnegan

He sealed It Simple as that Obito did the same with the jubbi He wasn't even connected and he did that while he was half dead and was while someone else was trying to controll him

We both know the only reason Obito controlled the Juubi was plot.

Madara did it effortlessly though.

 

[Ultimateone]

well considering you can read the entire thing with rennigan he could have just wrote the whole thing while in rennigan. now we don't know exactly when the tablet was actually written in the first place as it could have been written by the younger son. or later could have seals placed o it to prevent those who are not worthy from reading.

 

[Mitarashi]

well considering you can read the entire thing with rennigan he could have just wrote the whole thing while in rennigan. now we don't know exactly when the tablet was actually written in the first place as it could have been written by the younger son. or later could have seals placed o it to prevent those who are not worthy from reading.

By who? Madara was the only one who ever awakened the Rinnegan after that.

 

[TrollKing]

Rinnegan is ultimate eye. Sharingans are water down version. That's what tobi said

 

[sindi1997]

We both know the only reason Obito controlled the Juubi was plot.

Madara did it effortlessly though.

Sealing jutsu > Jubbi simple as that

 

[ShiroT]

I doubt Hyuuga are related to the Sage at all. And there are probably hundreds of Dojutsu ( Several in "Non canon" series/movies ).
These are blood line traits, all the Sage did was show them how to use chakra ect. He was the reason those people could activate their blood line traits, it's stupidity to assume that everyone is related to the sage.

The Sharingan was probably in his mother's blood. His father would have had the "Senju" DNA ( Who knows what it was called then ) and him being the collaboration of their DNA + The first "Natural" Chakra user simply released his Kekkai genkai.
When his children were both, one of them inherited the "Sharingan" and the other the "Senju" powers ( Things always skip a generation, right ? ), but a Senju/Uchiha Child has probably never been birthed since then.

there are only 3 greate dojutsus and anything not canon doesnt matter, so why wouldnt it make sense that the rinnegan de-evolved into a sharingan and father along maybe even to a byakugan

 

[ShiroT]

By who? Madara was the only one who ever awakened the Rinnegan after that.

how would you know? that would mean either tht elder son never had children, had children and they didnt have the rennigan, or did have children and were born with different dojutsu. Since uchiha come from him one of the later two must be true

 

[Troyg39]

I doubt Hyuuga are related to the Sage at all. And there are probably hundreds of Dojutsu ( Several in "Non canon" series/movies ).
These are blood line traits, all the Sage did was show them how to use chakra ect. He was the reason those people could activate their blood line traits, it's stupidity to assume that everyone is related to the sage.

The Sharingan was probably in his mother's blood. His father would have had the "Senju" DNA ( Who knows what it was called then ) and him being the collaboration of their DNA + The first "Natural" Chakra user simply released his Kekkai genkai.
When his children were both, one of them inherited the "Sharingan" and the other the "Senju" powers ( Things always skip a generation, right ? ), but a Senju/Uchiha Child has probably never been birthed since then.

Actually, it's stupidity to assume what you just said right here. All chakra came from one source, the tree. Kaguya was the first human to take it, and her son the Sage ended up getting it next. In order for everyone else to have used chakra, either they had to take some from the tree also or the sage had to give them chakra. This idea you have that everyone just simply had chakra in them goes against the manga.

So yes, I believe everyone is connected to the sage not via bloodlines, but via chakra. And if you consider that it was that chakra that gave him the Rinnegan, you can see it's very possible the broken down bloodline also lead to broken down chakra which resulted in other occular powers.

Chakra all came from one source, so everyone in the world is connected because they are using chakra that originated from the same source. That's a fact. Kaguya was the first to get and use it, and her son inherited it next. So yes if you consider the chakra, rather than the bloodline, everyone is connected to the sage if he was the one to distribute it to others. But make no mistake, someone had to give people the chakra. It wasn't just in them

 

[SadSasuke]

Sorry, but Sindi 1997 is right.

 

[Strawberry]

i doubt it he just started with rinne likely

 

[BlinkST]

Hagoromo didn't have a Mangekyo Sharingan. What Obito said was debunked when we later discovered that Madara read the entire tablet before leaving Konohagakure.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Well according to zetsu he awakened rinnegan.... which leads to possibilities. A: He obtain it before his fight with the shinju. or B: he acquired the rinnegan as the juubi's jin. the latter is most likely.... sharingan came after the rinnegan tho...